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selfdater
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Great Brian - keep 'em coming!

August 27, 2016 at 7:24 PM Flag Quote & Reply

hi_bri
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selfdater at August 27, 2016 at 7:24 PM

Great Brian - keep 'em coming!

OK here we go!


Seiko 3803-7030:

This one is in minty condition.  Strangely enough I bought it off a Russian dealer on the 'bay:

Bracelet in good shape:

Just for good measure I have a backup scratched up version with non-original bracelet:



Seiko 3803-7080:

Could not resist the dial and faceted crystal.  Looks better than the pics:




Finally 3863-7010:

This one was bought for parts since it was in very grimey condition (but I cleaned it up as best I could).   It was a non-running but suddenly revived itself one day.    Runs for a week then sometimes stops.  Can't complain since it was purchased for next to nothing.



Cheers,

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-Brian

August 30, 2016 at 11:20 PM Flag Quote & Reply

donwatch
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There are many of these '38 series watches for sale on Yahoo Japan ! 

September 3, 2016 at 10:41 AM Flag Quote & Reply

selfdater
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These non-JDM 3003s come up reasonably frequently on ebay. A 3863-5009 from 1973:


October 9, 2016 at 11:21 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Mr.Jones
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might I add my early 38 series with snowflake dial? It's a no-date, so cal. 3800


November 21, 2016 at 6:12 PM Flag Quote & Reply

selfdater
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Thanks Mr Jones - do you agree that the 3800 is fairly scarce?


There's another dateless variant - the 3820 VFA; I have never seen one of these. Judging by the 1975v2 catalogue (p10), they were used in precious metal cased dress models so would have been bought in small numbers. That catalogue includes a ¥3,850,000 (uh-huh).platinum model!


Two more calibres are hard to come by - I wonder if anybody has these or any more info: 

  • The 3819 "Duotime" as seen in the 1974v1 catalogue.
  • The mysterious (to me) 3870. I don't even know what this is but it is referenced in the movement tables that are out there.
???

 

November 23, 2016 at 4:26 PM Flag Quote & Reply

hi_bri
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selfdater at November 23, 2016 at 4:26 PM

Thanks Mr Jones - do you agree that the 3800 is fairly scarce?


There's another dateless variant - the 3820 VFA; I have never seen one of these. Judging by the 1975v2 catalogue (p10), they were used in precious metal cased dress models so would have been bought in small numbers. That catalogue includes a ¥3,850,000 (uh-huh).platinum model!


Two more calibres are hard to come by - I wonder if anybody has these or any more info: 

  • The 3819 "Duotime" as seen in the 1974v1 catalogue.
  • The mysterious (to me) 3870. I don't even know what this is but it is referenced in the movement tables that are out there.
???

 

3820 VFA no date pics from a current Yahoo Auction trending at 180,000 Yen.  Price too high for me and it just got relisted so I don't know what shenanigans are going on at Cool Auctions:

Quite the beauty in 18K White Gold and "Tiger Eye" black dial.

Just goes to show you Quartz watches were not the commodity the are now in the early phase of their introduction.


Cheers,


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-Brian

December 5, 2016 at 4:53 PM Flag Quote & Reply

selfdater
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Thanks Brian. As shiny as it is, I think I'll hold off on that one :)

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December 6, 2016 at 6:02 PM Flag Quote & Reply

selfdater
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...meanwhile, I've been searching for the 3870. It seems that this was only used in limited numbers in a railroad pocket watch.

Search for 38RW to find it. Some links from elsewhere:


http://www.thewatchsite.com/21-japanese-watch-discussion-forum/43842-your-seiko-history-questions-answered.html

http://www.thewatchsite.com/21-japanese-watch-discussion-forum/179562-61rw-last-seiko-mechanical-railroad-pocket-watch.html

http://www.thewatchsite.com/21-japanese-watch-discussion-forum/45374-seiko-railroad-watches-action.html


Perhaps of interest to donwatch


December 6, 2016 at 6:08 PM Flag Quote & Reply

donwatch
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Not a VFA but an early Railroad.  In average condition from January 1973 ---Seiko 3803-7060    ;) 

         

December 10, 2016 at 5:16 PM Flag Quote & Reply

donwatch
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A Seiko 3863-7010  QR in NOS / Mint with full length band. It was amoung a "lot" of eight I bought  off Yahoo Japan. The watch was DOA.   But it is now running.  It is from Feburary 1974  :P          

February 16, 2017 at 3:32 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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For those who haven't seen it and might be interested, Simon (a.k.a. 'Sir Alan') has written up a full strip and rebuild of a 'snowflake' dialed 3863-7049 over on WristSushi.com:


http://wristsushi.proboards.com/thread/13675/seiko-3863-7049-service



March 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM Flag Quote & Reply

ReggieH
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Hi, All--I'm new. You've posted pictures of some beautiful 70's Seikos! I have one 3803 and three 3802's that I like lots. FWIW, 3883's often come up on Yahoo Japanese auctions. I also note that a nearly-complete set of regulating condensers for 380x and 386x movements is for sale on Watchrecon--search on "seiko quartz."

I echo a post I made on Watchuseek; maybe you're as nutty about this as I am, and as concerned that this history might disappear.

In an auction ending 3-16-2017, a non-working Seiko 35-9010, S# 0D0129, sold to the only bidder for the reserve price of $299.00. Both the dial and the case are marked with the Suwa hurricane. The seller included a movement photo; I was very surprised to see that the movement is marked "DAINISEIKOSHA,LTD," because I had assumed that these first quartz watches were entirely Suwa products. Watchuseek member James A was kind enough to post a picture of the movement at:

forums.watchuseek.com/f11/seiko-35-9010-ebay-4098442.html

I had thought that Daini played "second fiddle" to Suwa in the development of quartz, but this movement photo made me do the rethink, and I began looking at Daini 08xx and 585x watches.

Best wishes to all, ReggieH

April 12, 2017 at 2:45 PM Flag Quote & Reply

donwatch
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I found the Ebay item and pulled some photo's.    I would have bid  :o  but was not looking :(      

April 12, 2017 at 5:17 PM Flag Quote & Reply

ReggieH
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Thanks, donwatch--I'm on Apple, and it saves the page in a proprietary webarchive format--good for my computer, but I don't know how to share it. If I were richer and younger, I might have bid myself--just to own a piece of history. If I see anything similar in my wanderings, I'll post.

Best, ReggieH


April 12, 2017 at 5:56 PM Flag Quote & Reply

selfdater
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Cor! Shame it doesn't work and that there is no bracelet. And the dial is less than pristine. But I'm surprised that this came up on ebay for $300 - I'm not sure how I missed it. Thanks ReggieH.

April 14, 2017 at 10:47 AM Flag Quote & Reply

ReggieH
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selfdater at April 14, 2017 at 10:47 AM

Cor! Shame it doesn't work and that there is no bracelet. And the dial is less than pristine. But I'm surprised that this came up on ebay for $300 - I'm not sure how I missed it. Thanks ReggieH.

Hi, selfdater--A little bit of luck to find the 35, I guess. I can usually stay on top of eBay by searching on the 4-digit movement number, or on words like "twin quartz," "king quartz," "qt," etc. If I've got time, I'll search all 18-20 pages of "seiko vintage quartz." But how to find an Astron, or a 35, or the mysterious 36(00?) without pulling up a lot of unwanted watches--that I don't know.

I'm also puzzled about how to post pictures on 7A38. If I click on the "Insert image" icon in the reply toolbar, it asks me for a URL for the image. How do I post from my desktop? Thanks in advance for your help.


Best wishes, ReggieH

April 14, 2017 at 7:17 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Brian. You can't upload photos direct from your desktop. You first need to host them remotely. See this thread:

http://www.seiko7a38.com/apps/forums/topics/show/7208345 entitled: How to upload a photo to this forum ....


PS - Please try to avoid unnecessary use of the Quote & Reply function (quoting the immediately preceding post).

There's a thread about that in the same section: http://www.seiko7a38.com/apps/forums/topics/show/7168820


April 15, 2017 at 1:23 AM Flag Quote & Reply

ReggieH
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Thanks, Seiko7A38


Best, ReggieH

April 15, 2017 at 1:00 PM Flag Quote & Reply

selfdater
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This is a 3863-7049 from 1975, marked 3003 so non JDM. In fact it's the (base metal) Golden cousin of the SS Snowflake already posted. I haven't seen many of these but I picked it up fairly cheaply. I've also attached an advert from 1974 for the 2 snowflake models, showing both on bracelets. It seems to have undergone massive deflation since it's launch!



August 5, 2017 at 2:44 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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