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Seiko7A38 at September 18, 2017 at 9:33 AM

Here's a decent looking example of a 7A38-7070 with box and papers, that was posted FS on the German watch forum UhrForum.de this lunchtime. Asking price is 380 Euros.


http://uhrforum.de/seiko-quartz-7a38-7070-sports-100-inkl-box-papers-t323240

[Verkauf] Seiko Quartz 7A38-7070 Sports 100 inkl Box und Papers



Checking on that FS advert on UhrForum.de ....

http://uhrforum.de/seiko-quartz-7a38-7070-sports-100-inkl-box-papers-t323240

I note that it was edited  the following day to show [Erledigt] - (Completed), meaning presumably that it had been sold.


When I ran the search (on 7A38-7070) to find the FS thread again, I found another example had been posted soon afterwards.

Again this one appears to be in pretty decent used condition, with an asking price of 250 Euros. But by the time I found it, it was already marked up as 'On Hold'.


http://uhrforum.de/seiko-7a38-7070-speedy-am-orig-band-in-schoenem-zustand-t323541

[Reserviert] Seiko 7A38-7070 Speedy am orig. Band in schönem Zustand



Speaking of 7A38-7070's offered for sale on other watch forums ....

September 24, 2017 at 3:47 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at August 21, 2017 at 1:05 PM

This 7A38-7070 was listed FS on WatchUseek a couple of days ago, with an asking price of $350.


http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/4513583.html  FS: Seiko 7A38-7070



That 7A38-7070 offered on WUS, which it transpired had been lightly beadblasted, as I'd suspected (see my subsequent post on the previous page), sold a couple of days ago - after the seller had reduced the asking price to $300 and a couple of bumps.


September 24, 2017 at 4:11 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at September 18, 2017 at 5:17 AM

One such, is the well-worn example, fitted with an obviously non-original bracelet, listed by German eBay seller kugelharry, which first appeared in mid-June with a pie-in-the-sky Buy-it-Now price of 260 Euros (first mentioned halfway down page 3 of this thread). He's continued to re-list it, with different pricing - maybe a dozen times now.


Here's his latest re-listing, now set up as an auction with an opening bid price of 150 Euros. Could this one finally succeed ?


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152706901055



That latest re-listed German eBay auction for the 'mis-titled' 7A38-7070 ended earlier this afternoon. Thankfully (as far as I'm concerned) somebody decided to put the seller out of his misery by placing a bid on it. Hopefully that'll be the last we see of it. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152706901055


September 24, 2017 at 11:13 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at August 26, 2017 at 6:31 PM

This 7A38-7070 was listed earlier this evening by a French eBay seller, with a risibly over-optimistic Buy-it-Now price of 350 Euros (and currently no Best Offer option). Ignore the fact that it comes in a period correct Seiko presentation box, because in this instance it's a bit of a red herring. Look closely at the photos of the watch itself. The seller may state in his description that the dial and hands are in beautiful condition, but they're not. Both are suffering from discoloured degraded lume. The bracelet appears to be well worn, with slop in the hinged link joining pins. Take away the box and you're looking at an example that might make 150-200 Euros.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263169471160


Once again, dogged persistence by French eBay seller watchover15 appears to have paid off. :roll: He didn't reduce his 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price - just kept re-listing it. Checking my eBay watching page, I notice that his 7A38-7070 finally sold this morning - for his 350 Euros asking price.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263253341375



As confirmed by the eBay purchase history:

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item=263253341375

October 21, 2017 at 10:44 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This well worn condition 7A38-7070, fitted with a non-original replacement bracelet was listed by a US eBay seller at the weekend, as a 7-day auction with an opening bid price of $4.99. It's being offered through eBay's GSP programme. Bidding is currently @ $52.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182864261690


You are bidding on a pre-owned RUNNING Seiko chronograph men's watch. The face is black with white hash marks for numbers. The crystal appears to have a tiny chip right above the name Seiko other than that it is in good condition. The case has very very minor scuffs and rubs but other than that it is in very good condition. The back has medium scratches reads Seiko 425781,water resistant,st. steel, Japan s, 7A38-7070 ao. The face dial moves but the buttons seem to me stuck. Please refer to the pictures and decide for yourself, the condition of this watch. Thanks for looking.


October 31, 2017 at 5:26 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above US eBay auction for a well worn 7A38-7070, fitted with a non-original replacement bracelet ended late last night, selling for $130 after 29 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182864261690


November 6, 2017 at 4:08 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I've never made any secret of my contempt for and dislike of would-be profiteering re-sellers - especially those trying to make a fast buck. Some re-sellers will at least make an effort to disguise their activities, either by waiting a couple of months before listing the watch on eBay, or by obscuring the case-back serial number. Others are not quite so smart. US eBay seller flobaca falls into that category.


Yesterday evening he listed a well worn 7A38-7070 fitted with a non-original replacement bracelet, as a 7-day auction with an over-optimistic opening bid price of $335. In his photos the dial and hands lume can seen to be slightly discoloured (even though he describes them as 'mint condition'). If any of the foregoing sounds vaguely familiar, you don't need to go back too far in this thread, to find where he bought it, just a week ago, for a rather lower price of $130 - my preceding post. He may have changed the bracelet, but it's for another similar looking 'generic' item fitted with a Seiko clasp. If you rotate and zoom in on the previous seller's 4th photo, you'll see that the case-back serial number 425781 matches.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352207882924


PLEASE SEE MY OTHER LISTINGS

NO INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING - USA ONLY !!!

For Sale - SEIKO 7A38 DIVER CHRONOGRAPH * * * RARE MODEL

Case - 40mm w/o crown/ pushers X 42.5mm lug to lug 20mm lug size stainless steel ,shows some normal wear, nice and clean

Crystal -original flat glass, shows some normal wear 2 lite scratches

Dial - black color raised markers and hands day/ date at 3 mint condition

Movement - JAPAN Seiko 7a38 quartz 15 jewels ,everything works normal.sets resets to O .

Band - stainless steel buckle signed Seiko fits 7.5 inch wrist

NOTE - I DON'T TEST WATCHES UNDER WATER NOR FOR WATERPROOFING PLEASE BE ADVISED

FREE SHIPPING IS FOR USA ONLY.


November 13, 2017 at 4:19 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This average worn condition 7A38-7070 fitted with an unidentified non-original replacement bracelet, was listed earlier today by a German eBay seller, with a Buy-it-Now price of 325 Euros or best offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122828379570



The description merely reads: Siehe Fotos. Braucht eine neue Batterie.


November 25, 2017 at 10:31 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Belated update: the German seller ended the above listing the following day, due to an alleged error. As it hasn't been re-listed since, it's probably safe to assume it was sold off ebay for a lower sum.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122828379570



December 4, 2017 at 11:44 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This well worn example of a 7A38-7070, with discoloured lume, fitted with a cheap looking leather strap was listed yesterday afternoon by a Spanish eBay seller, with a fanciful Buy-it-Now price of 258 Euros.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182945591723



The brief description simply reads: Bisel arañado Correa no original.


December 4, 2017 at 11:47 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Somebody must have been pretty desperate to get their hands on a 7A38-7070, because that poor example sold yesterday morning - a matter of a few hours after my previous post, as a Buy-it-Now for a slightly reduced price of 240 Euros. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182945591723



I notice the same Spanish eBay seller sold a replacement bezel insert yesterday evening; presumably a Yobokies repro' item which he'd intended to fit to it. Got 45 Euros for it too. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182947728695


December 6, 2017 at 4:21 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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There was another 7A38-7070 listed albeit very briefly on eBay on Friday afternoon by a UK seller, with a Buy-it-Now price of £249 (or best offer). I picked it up post facto from a search on ended listings. The listing was live for less than 25 minutes, during which time it received only 7 views before being sold. The seller described it as being in 'fantastic' condition, but his poorly lit and mostly lacklustre photos didn't make it particularly easy to discern the true condition.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/372161355835

SEIKO CHRONOGRAPH SPORT 100 STAINLESS STEEL WATCH 7A38 7070 IN VERY GOOD COND



LOVELY SEIKO CHRONOGRAPH SPORT 100 WATCH IN FANTASTIC CONDITION, WORKS PERFECTLY AND KEEPS VERY GOOD TIME. ALL HANDS AND FUNCTIONS WORK JUST AS THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO, STOPWATCH HAS LOVELY FEATURE OF RETURNING SECOND HAND. JUST HAD A NEW BATTERY FITTED AND ALL IS GOOD. I'VE GOT TOO MANY WATCHES (40 IS TOO MANY RIGHT?) AND I'M GETTING RID OF A FEW. PLEASE LOOK AT THE PICTURES AS THEY FORM PART OF THE DESCRIPTION. ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE ASK.

ITEM IS IN STREATHAM, SOUTH LONDON YOU ARE WELCOME TO COLLECT. DOMESTIC POST NEXT DAY AND INSURED £10, EUROPEAN £18 SIGNED FOR AND INSURED, WORLDWIDE IS £26 SIGNED FOR AND INSURED.

POSTAGE FROM THE UK IS EXPENSIVE, IF YOU CAN FIND A CHEAPER SIGNED FOR POSTAGE I'LL USE IT. ANY QUESTIONS ASK, GOOD LUCK.


Although it sold quickly, it wasn't for the full asking price of £249 as a Buy-it-Now.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/372161355835


In fact WatchCount.com's Look-up tool reveals it sold against an offer of £225:



As confirmed by the eBay Purchase History:

December 10, 2017 at 5:31 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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In such circumstances (where I'd missed seeing an eBay listing whilst it was live), I'm always intrigued to learn the identity of the buyer - even if they choose to post about it elsewhere. :/ Transpires it was forum member Johnny_E who bought that 7A38-7070. He posted about it yesterday in two threads on SCWF and TZ-UK.


See: http://www.thewatchsite.com/21-japanese-watch-discussion-forum/301506.html

My 7A38's and a new arrival today

and: http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?414148

A grail lands for me today... delighted is an understatement! (and a bit of a SOTC)


The wording of his post on TZ-UK ties in nicely with the timing of the purchase.



December 12, 2017 at 3:16 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at November 13, 2017 at 4:19 AM

Yesterday evening he listed a well worn 7A38-7070 fitted with a non-original replacement bracelet, as a 7-day auction with an over-optimistic opening bid price of $335. In his photos the dial and hands lume can seen to be slightly discoloured (even though he describes them as 'mint condition'). If any of the foregoing sounds vaguely familiar, you don't need to go back too far in this thread, to find where he bought it, just a week ago, for a rather lower price of $130 - my preceding post. He may have changed the bracelet, but it's for another similar looking 'generic' item fitted with a Seiko clasp. If you rotate and zoom in on the previous seller's 4th photo, you'll see that the case-back serial number 425781 matches.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352207882924


I didn't expect that 7A38-7070 listed by would-be profiteering US eBay re-seller flobaca to sell for $335. It didn't. He re-liisted it three times with the opening bid price reduced to $300. I just kept adding it to my eBay watching page. Then I noticed he'd ended the fourth re-listing early yesterday morning, as item no longer available. So I guess it's safe to assume it sold off eBay for a lower figure.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/-/352231044408



December 17, 2017 at 11:44 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at December 4, 2017 at 11:44 PM

Belated update: the German seller ended the above listing the following day, due to an alleged error. As it hasn't been re-listed since, it's probably safe to assume it was sold off ebay for a lower sum.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122828379570




Or perhaps not. :roll: Because this morning, the German eBay seller re-listed it, with the same pie-in-the-sky Buy-it-Now price of 325 Euros. 



December 21, 2017 at 7:08 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Athough I've certainly mentioned the Brazilian built ZFM 7A38-7075 variant previously on this forum, notably in this thread, I think this is the first time in nearly 12 months since I started this model specific topic, that one has actually popped up on eBay. Unfortunately, not only is this example fitted with an obviously non-original bracelet*, but the would-be Brazilian eBay seller is asking a ludicrous $999 as a Buy-it-Now. I haven't bothered uploading the seller's photo of a movement, because it clearly doesn't belong to this watch. Indeed, it's one he's 'borrowed' from an old listing for a stripped two-tone 7A38-6090 that was listed on eBay back in November 2016. :roll: You'll find it partway down page 3 of this thread.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282788202463



Relógio da famosa marca japonesa Seiko

Ano 1989

Modelo Speed Cronógrafo Sports 100. referencia 7a38 7075

Mostrador original,

Caixa em aço com com 42,70 mm x 40,20 mm.

Pulseira original assinada.

Movimento quartz assinado Seiko, calibre 7a38.

Funcionamento perfeito.

Vidro original.

Peça em excelente estado de conservação. para colecionadores, ou Simpatizantes da marca Seiko.

Compre com segurança e garantia.

Obrigado por sua visita e interesse.


*Although there's nothing on Seiko's database to verify this assumption, going by past sightings, I suspect ZFM 7A38-7075's were factory fitted with the lighter p/n B1075S bracelet (used on the 7A28-7040 / -7049), rather than the similar appearing p/n B1241S used on the standard export model 7A38-7070.


December 28, 2017 at 2:42 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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I have a confession to make. Last night, while under the influence of too much Christmas spirit(s): I'd already sunk a couple of large sherries and was well into a second glass of Baileys, I nearly bought that ZFM 7A38-7075. 


The seller's Buy-it-Now asking price of $999 was completely ludicrous, so with the intention of giving him a reality check, I made a lowball offer of $299, expecting it to be rejected out of hand. Instead he came back with a counter offer of $399. :/


I'd like to add a ZFM version to my collection and the fact that his was fitted with completely the wrong bracelet wasn't that big a deal (to me). I still have a spare NOS Seiko p/n B1241S bracelet, which although not technically correct for the ZFM version, wouldn't have looked out of place. Plus I had an idea where I could use that black / stainless p/n B316 bracelet (on an existing 7A38 Franken). So without giving it more thought, I accepted his counter offer.


Almost immediately, the nagging doubts set in. Why was the seller prepared to let it go for for only 40% of his 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now asking price ? So I studied the photos again - particularly the first three. Comparing the condition of the watch case to the worn case-back, it looks almost too good (to be true). If you look at the lug box areas, they've lost some of their definition and seem a little too rounded. I concluded the watch case and bezel must have been re-finished. So having cleared my 'beer goggles' and rapidly sobered up, I sent the seller a message asking him to cancel the transaction, which thankfully he did - to my relief. 


So if you're wondering why it's been re-listed - now you know. My fault. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282788836605



As far as I can tell from a cursory check, the re-listing is identical to the previous, save the fact the seller has removed the 'borrowed' photo of a 7A38 movement.


December 29, 2017 at 9:45 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Although I'd decided against it, I wasn't unduly surprised to see someone else had snapped up that ZFM 7A38-7075 just a day later (against the re-listing).


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282788836605


Seems they negotiated a slightly better (best offer) price of $350 too:



As confirmed by the eBay Purchase History:



That said, I was fairly appalled by the next one to sell ....


January 1, 2018 at 7:15 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at July 30, 2017 at 6:28 AM

Another 7A38-7070 was listed yesterday evening by an Israeli eBay seller, with a risibly over-optimistic Buy-it-Now price of $370.

I say that, because it's not in particularly good condition and fitted with a NATO strap. But at least you can tell that from the photos.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/122621926562


That grossly over-priced poor condition 7A38-7070 on a NATO had been re-listed continuously by the Israeli seller for the last 5 months, wthout any reduction in the $370 Buy-it-Now price (not even the concession of a 'make offer' option). Looks like somebody finally bought it. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112694297930



According to the eBay Purchase History ....


.... It was a newly created Zero-feedback buyer.  


January 1, 2018 at 7:28 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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That 7A38-7070 fitted with a non-original replacement bracelet, re-listed by German eBay seller *zunkel* in the week before Christmas, sold a couple of days ago. Not for the 325 Euros Buy-it-Now price ....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122872207804



But as revealed by WatchCount.com's look-up tool for a best offer of 285 Euros:




As confirmed by the eBay Purchase History:

January 4, 2018 at 1:16 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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