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Seiko7A38 at February 15, 2018 at 12:52 PM

Mystery solved - the re-listing (same item # as was in the link) appeared about an hour ago - but now as a 5-day auction listing, with an opening bid price of £185. Presumably, after creating it, the seller suspended the re-listing so it would finish at a more sensible time, rather than the middle of the night.

I actively discourage the use of profanity on this forum - and generally try to refrain myself, but F me gently ! The number of times this UK eBay seller 334colin bnggers around with, ends his listings early and re-lists them again is becoming a real pain in the arse to keep up with !

Because I've got better things to do, I'd failed to report that he'd ended that 5-day auction listing for his well-worn 7A38-7070 on a cheap leather strap, the following day, because of an alleged error.

He'd then re-listed it again, as a Buy-it-Now for £195, with the option to make an offer. That re-listing ended yesterday evening.'s Look-up tool reveals it finally sold for a best offer of £170:

As confirmed by the eBay Offer / Purchase History:

Out of curiosity, I googled 'Ending your eBay listing early'. Apparently, there are 4 acceptable reasons for doing so:

I've seen plenty of examples of the first two (which usually mean a 'back door' sale has taken place) and a few of the last. But I don't think I've ever actually seen an item ended because of an error in the pricing, which UK eBay seller colin334 clearly has problems with. Remembering he originally had this up for £235. :roll:

February 18, 2018 at 7:27 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at February 11, 2018 at 3:55 PM

This 7A38-7070 in average worn condition, was listed earlier this evening by a German eBay seller as a 7-day auction, with an opening bid price of 1 Euro. The invoice supplied with it (for 60 Euros) is for replacement of seals by the recently opened Seiko boutique in Hamburg. Couple of points to note: the white Seiko presentation box it comes in is not 'period', but something much later. Also, it's not difficult to spot the amount of wear present in the bracelet hinge pins, either. :/

The above quoted 7-day German eBay auction for a 7A38-7070, in only average worn condition, ended earlier this evening, selling for a surprisingly strong 401 Euros after 27 bids.

February 18, 2018 at 2:39 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Hi,first post and my watch is a 7a38 7070 dated 1984.In fact this is the watch sold by Colin for £170 with the leather strap.I wouldnt be so hard on Colin as i bombarded him with messages asking if he would do a deal with the watch.At the time the auction didnt have long to run and he wanted £225.He didnt want to do a deal with me,but said the least he would let it go at was £185. He then listed it up for £185 but i didnt have enough money,so i contacted my dealer friend who had dealt with him before,My dealer friend happened to owe me £250,so i asked him to contact Colin and get it for the best price he could.I then messaged Colin to say my mate was contacting him and buying the watch on my behalf. So there you have it,please dont be so harsh on Colin,im sure his head is still spinning. Anyway i am now on the look out for a genuine bracelet,but no hurry as it looks cool enough on its temp black and white Nato.

February 25, 2018 at 7:58 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Thank you for your post Bob. However, I will continue being as critical of eBay seller 334colin's activities as I see fit. When I first saw him listing 7A28's and 7A38's on eBay, I naively assumed (from his regular use of 'my' when describing his watches), he was someone dissolving a private collection. It turns out he's just another in a long line of would-be profiteering re-sellers to have jumped on the 7Axx bandwagon. How do I know this ? I have it on good authority that he attempted to make a 'back door' lowball offer to another UK eBay seller, whose 7A38 I happened to have been the high bidder on. Never a good move. 

February 26, 2018 at 7:04 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 7A38-7070 'Head Only' in decent used condition, was listed late this afternoon, by an Italian eBay seller, with a laughably over-optimistic Buy-it-Now price of 450 Euros - and currently no option to make an offer.

Fully functioning watch, perfect chronographs, perfect date change, beautiful conditions.

Incidentally, the seller has also listed it on the Italian free classifieds site with a slightly lower asking price of 'only' 400 Euros.

March 17, 2018 at 3:29 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This afternoon the Italian eBay seller ended the above listing - a day early.

Presumably the error was in the pricing. :roll: They re-listed it almost immediately, as a 3-day auction, with a slightly less ambitious opening bid price of 300 Euros.

March 26, 2018 at 1:38 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above 3-day auction ended this afternoon, with the 7A38-7070 'Head Only' selling for the opening bid price of 300 Euros.

March 29, 2018 at 2:37 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 7A38-7070 in average worn condition, fitted with a Yobokies repro' bezel insert and a bracelet clasp extender, was listed yesterday afternoon, by a French eBay seller, as a 10-day auction, with an opening bid price of £100 (Sterling - not Euros).

SEIKO 7A38-7070 in overall good condition, all original, from August 1987.

7A38 movement ,15 jewels ( World's First Analog Display Quartz Chronograph Movement dito 7A28 ) in full perfect total working condition. All functions are operational (start/stop/reset as it should)

Original bracelet fitted with a clasp extender , crystal with light scratches & tiny pits hardly visible (see photos).

Rotating bezel perfectly working in both directions and clicking properly, new bezel insert from " Yobokies ", original bezel insert available on request.

No sticky pushers, day in french & english (watch originally sold in France)

Brand new RENATA battery. No box , no papers.

Waterproofing not guaranted.

Shipping cost for bidders outside EU on request.

SEIKO 7A38-7070 en excellente condition, entièrement d'origine datant d' août 1987.

Mouvement 7A38 ,15 rubis (premier chronomètre quartz analogique au monde identique au 7A28 ) parfaitement fonctionnel. Sur ce mouvement, la précision peut-être réglée si nécessaire.

Toutes les fonctions sont opérationnelles comme au premier jour.

Bracelet d'origine sur lequel a été ajouté une extension de boucle afin de l'agrandir, le verre comporte des rayures légères ainsi que de minuscules points d'impact difficilement visibles en conditions normales (les photos parlent d'elles même).

La lunette tournante bi-directionnelle tourne comme il se doit et l'on ressent parfaitement les crans. L' insert de lunette est neuf (provenance "Yokobies"- copie parfaite de celui d'origine), celui d'origine est disponible (le demander)

Les poussoirs fonctionnent parfaitement et librement, jours affichés en français et anglais (montre vendue en France)

Pile RENATA neuve. Pas de boîte ni papiers.

Prix du port sur demande pour les enchérisseurs hors UE.

April 8, 2018 at 3:15 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This well-worn 7A38-7070, fitted with a non-original replacement Seiko bracelet, was listed earlier this evening by a UK eBay seller with a Buy-it-Now price of £250. The listing currently has no 'Make Offer', nor postage options shown, offering only 'collection in person' from Dudley, West Midlands (but see also the description). Incidentally, the bracelet fitted is a Seiko p/n B1688S - sometimes used as a service replacement on 7A38-701x's.

This is my Seiko 7a38-7070 chronograph. However, I no longer wear it and therefore, I think, it needs to find a new home. It does keep good time but the pushers have grown more and more recalcitrant over time and are now quite sticky. With some effort the stop watch can be persuaded to work and all the registers operate and return to their correct positions. It does take some doing though. The watch shows clear evidence of having been worn and it would no doubt benefit from a service and a sympathetic restoration. The original bracelet disintegrated some time ago, although I still have all the pieces, no doubt it could be restored. I did manage to obtain a similar bracelet which is now fitted and works well visually as well as being a good physical fit. The original box and warranty booklet are present and included. This is a nice vintage watch that would be a worth while project. I, sadly, have neither the funds nor the inclination. It can, however, be worn as is.

It is not new, therefore you are asked to carefully study the photographs as these are your best aid to establishing the condition and the value of the watch. Once you are happy with the condition as described and as shown in the photographs and only then should you buy. I do not accept returns. Should you wish to view the watch please get in touch. I will be happy for you to see it. I stand by what I sell. Please see my feedback. The watch that you see in the photographs is the watch that you will get.

Although this item is offered for sale for collection only, I will ship this item at the buyers expense. You will need to contact me, prior to purchase, to get a price for shipping. I only ship using a major carrier on a tracked, insured and signed for service.

I am unable to and will not deal with courier collections under any circumstances from this address. Please bear this in mind.

From a pet and smoke free home

The watch is located in Dudley West Midlands at DY3 3PZ.

April 15, 2018 at 6:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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That 10-day eBay auction for a 7A38-7070, fitted with a Yobokies bezel insert and a bracelet clasp extender, listed by the French eBay seller ended this afternoon. Given the less than ideal condition, it made a very strong £350 (Pounds Sterling - not Euros) after 22 bids.

April 17, 2018 at 3:09 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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I obviously hadn't been watching that other UK eBay listing for a 7A38-7070 (the one fitted with an incorrect replacement Seiko bracelet) closely enough. One would have expected the seller to have added some postage options at some point. Yesterday evening, he revised the listing, adding a 'Best Offer' option instead.

The watch sold less than half an hour later:'s Look-up tool reveals it was sold for an offer of £220.

As confirmed by the eBay Purchase History:

April 18, 2018 at 4:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This unnaturally shiny 7A38-7070 was listed earlier this evening by a Mexican eBay seller, as a 7-day auction with an opening bid price of $1. How he can claim it's 'unpolished', when you can see your face in the clasp cover is beyond me ! :roll: Note also the discoloured dial lume batons, the misaligned Tachymeter ring and the deftly deflected centre seconds finger tension spring, clearly intended (by this incompetent botcher) to cause maximum friction. :( Probably one best avoided, unless over-polished turds are your thing.

Beautiful seiko chronograph speedmaster sports 100m 15 Jewels Cal. 7A38-7070

•Movement: Seiko Caliber 7A38

• Case: Brushed stainless steel

• Back: Engraved screw-in back

• Crystal: Hardlex Mineral

• Band: original steel bracelet

• Not waterproof

• Rotating bezel

• New battery

include original box




If you're not familiar with this watch, it has an extremely high-quality analog quartz movement (Seiko Caliber 7A38) - not the usual disposable plastic-gear movements in most watches today. This is a 15-jewel movement with metal gears - it can actually be regulated, disassembled and repaired if needed!

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May 16, 2018 at 2:48 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Another well-worn 7A38-7070, fitted with a non-original generic replacement bracelet, was listed earlier this afternoon, by a French eBay seller, with a risible 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of 454 Euros, or the option to make (a much lower) offer. Note also the discoloured dial and hands lume - never a good sign.

Chrono Seiko 7a38-7070 en bon état

Fonctionne parfaitement

Chronograph qui commence à devenir rare

Verre qui comporte quelques rayures

Le bracelet acier est un générique.

May 21, 2018 at 11:50 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This well-worn 7A38-7070 was listed in the early hours of this morning, by a US eBay seller, as a 7-day auction, with an opening bid price of $9.99. It's being offered through eBay's dysfunctional GSP programme, which means any potential bidders from the UK (and I suspect most of Europe) won't actually be able to bid on it, thanks to eBay's covert blanket embargo agreement with Seiko. :roll:

This was my work watch many years ago, runs good scratches to crystal. The band has a extra link , and appears to need a pin in band or 2 replaced ? , also lite scratches to band. Still a fantastic watch I have a blue Safire movado now and want this to go to a good home and enjoyed as I did. Low starting price no reserve!!!

May 22, 2018 at 5:38 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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