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jair1970 at July 15, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Surely they can't get good money for that? Even their magic photographic skills haven't covered its deficiencies.

It's an absolute mess isn't it?  WALOFS indeed ;)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-1984-SEIKO-7A28-703A-CHRONOGRAPH-MODIFIED-STUNNING-SERVICED-/300742519982


Well, how that 'stunning' piece of re-cycled junk ever managed to make £108.99 amazes dumbfounds me. :o  What a travesty ! :roll:

July 22, 2012 at 3:15 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at July 22, 2012 at 3:15 PM

jair1970 at July 15, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Surely they can't get good money for that? Even their magic photographic skills haven't covered its deficiencies.

It's an absolute mess isn't it?  WALOFS indeed ;)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-1984-SEIKO-7A28-703A-CHRONOGRAPH-MODIFIED-STUNNING-SERVICED-/300742519982


Well, how that 'stunning' piece of re-cycled junk ever managed to make £108.99 amazes dumbfounds me. :o  What a travesty ! :roll:

OK,

let us wait for the next auction of this item with a non paying bidder info :D

July 23, 2012 at 7:16 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Gentlemen.

Allow me to share my prediction for the next warmed-over stunning serviced ex-Filipino 7A38 - soon to be offered by Time_Classics.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221123571310

VINTAGE SEIKO 7A38-7070 MEN'S CHRONOGRAPH QUARTZ WATCH



 

DIAL - Original in very good condition

HANDS - Original

DAY DATE - English and Roman day wheel

BEZEL - Original, insert is an aftermarket replacement

CROWN / PUSHBUTTONS - Original / Original

CRYSTAL - Original, polished

CASE / COVER -Original 40mm X 43mm Stainless steel case buffed & polished

BRACELET - Vintage replacement, will fit a 7.1 inch wrist

MOVEMENT - 7A38 Seiko Quartz movement

CONDITION - Used, battery placed, functions checked, keeps time

SERIAL NUMBER - 446341


Purchased not from 'Watchcooking', but 'CLM1002', using their usual b***f (400) buying ID, for £65.70, earlier this evening:

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p4340.l2565&rt=nc&item=221123571310


Knowing Steve's predilection for trying to tart these things up by swapping bracelets (this one's is short and wrong anyway) ....

Might I suggest it could re-appear (suitably dimly-lit, naturally), on a brand spanking new (but cheap and nasty) 20mm mesh.

He's recently bought one of these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271049206472 ;)


September 16, 2012 at 2:54 PM Flag Quote & Reply

jair1970
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Feel I must pipe up to register my utter disgust at seeing ANOTHER  filed down replacement bezel insert.

I don't know why, apart from its obvious grotesqueness, but the shoehorned bezel is, to me, the most abhorrent of 'repairs' that one can bestow upon a beleaguered watch, 7A38 or otherwise.

Caveat Emptor, for sure, on that one.

September 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Don't you remember the 7A28-7049 which Time_Classic's flogged in December last year, James ? Another 'Classic' botched bezel. :lol:




September 16, 2012 at 4:41 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Following on in a similar vein, here's my prediction for the next 7A28, soon to be given Time_Classics' dimly-lit makeover treatment.

Though by rights, it shouldn't need it. It's a half-decent looking JDM 7A28-701A, but on an one of those 'Feiko' aftermarket bracelets.

Knowing how Time_Classics like to prey on José's auctions, I'd put it on my eBay watching page, as soon he listed it, last Sunday. ;)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370647329039

VINTAGE SEIKO SPEEDMASTER QUARTZ CHRONO 7A28-701A APRIL '83




Here's a Seiko Speedmaster? quartz Chronograph, 7A28-701A....40mm

 

DIAL: Original dial in decent condition. All functions work.

CRYSTAL: Replacement glass.

BEZEL: Chapter ring original.

CASEBACK: Case may have been polished at some point, back unpolished......34......April 1983.

MOVEMENT: Overhauled 1 week ago.... watch keeps time.

BRACELET: Replacement bracelet.


As usual, it was won using their b***f (400) eBay user ID - for $123.50 (approx. £76.02) earlier this evening.

See: http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p4340.l2565&rt=nc&item=370647329039


September 16, 2012 at 6:52 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Two weeks later, to the day - just as predicted. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110958355113

*RARE SEIKO 7A28 701A CHRONOGRAPH IN STUNNING CONDITION SERVICED




Though it would seem Steve I got the bracelets mixed up ! :lol:


Knowing Steve's predilection for trying to tart these things up by swapping bracelets (this one's is short and wrong anyway) ....

Might I suggest it could re-appear (suitably dimly-lit, naturally), on a brand spanking new (but cheap and nasty) 20mm mesh.

He's recently bought one of these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271049206472



September 30, 2012 at 3:24 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Quality. Not even I'm drunk enough to bid on that.

 

 

October 1, 2012 at 7:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Well somebody is. :roll:


Bearing in mind, that properly described and photographed, this watch sold for £76 two weeks ago - bidding is already at £117, with 4½ days to go. I'd love to know what's actually going on behind the private listing - bidders' identities protected wall of secrecy.


Edit: Bidding finished on Sunday 8th October at £146, after 21 bids by 8 bidders. Another travesty of an auction by Time_Classics. :o

October 3, 2012 at 2:18 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Well, well, well:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290791015942

They have been busy:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290791015969

The second one is 'the art of disguise by photographic styling' in full effect.


October 14, 2012 at 3:22 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Just to expand on your post, slightly, James ....

 

Allow me to share my prediction for the next warmed-over stunning serviced ex-Filipino 7A38 - soon to be offered by Time_Classics. 

Purchased not from 'Watchcooking', but 'CLM1002', using their usual b***f (400) buying ID, for £65.70, earlier this evening:


In the case of this particular 7A38-7070, which they listed tonight, I think Steve 'n Julie may have been stalling (rather than busy).

There have been other 7A38-7070's on eBay recently; one of them was original and looked pretty decent (item # 110959509200).

That one sold for £155.00 incidentally. Not the sort of thing you'd want to have on eBay as a comparison to re-cycled crap like this.

Here's a couple of the typically dimly-lit deliberately deceptive photos from Time_Classic's latest total bnllsh!t 7A38 eBay listing:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290791015942

*RARE 1984 RETRO SEIKO 7A38 7070 CHRONOGRAPH SERVICED




Notice they've taken to turning the case-back around the other way, so you can't easily read the serial number. I wonder why ? 

In case you missed it from CLM1002's previous eBay listing in September, it's 446341 ....



October 14, 2012 at 4:21 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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That little black chrome plated 7A28-7130 they just listed took a while to filter back onto eBay as well, but I already had it tagged. ;)


Like nearly all the tired-looking and worn-out Seiko 7Axx's sold by Time_Classics, this one also came from the Philippines.

Mountapo_Merchant (a.k.a Edmar Duero) had already re-listed it a couple of times as a Buy-it-Now, before it 'disappeared'. :/

If you look at his original eBay listing photos, it's going to take a bit more than dimly-lit deliberately dark photos to disguise that one.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271060086524

VINTAGE SEIKO 7A28 7130 PVD CHRONOGRAPH WATCH WORLD'S FIRST QUARTZ ANALOG CHRONO




The second one is 'the art of disguise by photographic styling' in full effect.

Indeed, James. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290791015969

*RARE 1984 PVD SEIKO 7A28 7130 RALLY CHRONOGRAPH SERVICED



 Steve 'n Julie forgot to hide the serial number on this one. Needless to say, it matches - 496045. 


Quote: These are very hard to find in nice condition .... Unfortunately this particular 7A28-7130 isn't in nice condition. 


October 14, 2012 at 4:22 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Another complete and utter travesty of common sense calling itself an eBay auction result ! :mad:


October 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Just in case you missed it (and needed any further convincing) ....

Everybody's favourite eBay (re)seller popped his head up on SCWF again: http://www.thewatchsite.com/index.php/topic,37928.0.html

Choice quotes, from various contributors to that thread, include:


I prefer the public shaming of slick weasels like you chum.

He couldn't tell the truth if it was a single word answer.

A new low / high for Time_Classics. That's got to be one of the worst hack job / cobbles I've seen out of them.

Notice that ever since we talked about shill bidding they've kept all their auctions private.

Buyer beware indeed, especially when it comes to the stuff you sell, and how you sell it.


.... and that's just from the first page ! :o


November 1, 2012 at 11:49 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seems I missed something on the first page of that thread. I assumed the poster was alluding to Time_Classics, when he wrote this:


Here's another one, from one of our 'favourite' sellers - 'timely-classics' ....


But No, as Spencer PK correctly pointed out - it seems Steve 'n Julie have seen fit to change their eBay username yet again !! :o

See post reply #34 on page 2 of that thread: http://www.thewatchsite.com/index.php/topic,37928.msg246733.html#msg246733

Their new eBay handle is actually timely_classic. Subtly different from time_classics - enough to throw unwary punters off the scent.

Or should I say stench.  I'll check on their 'alternative' eBay ID's and update the other thread accordingly, if neccessary. 


November 1, 2012 at 1:07 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Gentlemen, I give you my prediction for the next ....

'Stunning Serviced' (read tired ex-Filipino) Seiko 7Axx to be given the Timely_Classic dimly-lit moody photo make-over treatment:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221149569591

VINTAGE ALL ORIGINAL SEIKO 7A28-7030 CHRONOGRAPH MEN'S QUARTZ  WATCH



Won using their usual b***f (461) alternative eBay user ID about 10 minutes ago, for a mere £78.69

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=221149569591



November 11, 2012 at 1:55 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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That original but rather tired-looking 7A28-7030 wasn't the only Seiko 7Axx which Timely_Classic purchased on eBay last night. 

The next two were also won using their b***f (461) eBay ID in the early hours of this morning. They really are a pair of 'Classics', truly worthy of their dimly-lit moody photo treatment, and both have already been discussed, at length, on this forum within the last week.

Both watches were listed by Filipino arch-watch-botcher Ramoncito 'Badingski' Bangit  on eBay last week. 


The first, as critiqued by Arpad is a complete and utter 7A28 Franken of the worst kind - a mish-mash of a 7A28-7040 and 7A28-7100.

See this thread in the same section - top of page 2:

http://www.seiko7a38.com/apps/forums/topics/show/7451104-latest-mis-matched-hotch-potch-7axx-spotted-on-ebay-yahoo-jp?page=2


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121012540481

RARE SEIKO 7A28-7040 PEPSI CHRONOGRAPH STAINLESS STEEL QUARTZ MENSWATCH(ALL ORIG



As you can see Timely_Classic (or should I say their alternate eBay buying ID) sniped it for $134.50 (approx. £84.54):

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=121012540481



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The second is a 7A38 of sorts, one which surely merits the use of their favourite adjectives STUNNING, and especially HUGE !!


It's the Yema N8 Flygraf which was discussed at some length by Arpad and myself, in another thread (from the top of page 3):

http://www.seiko7a38.com/apps/forums/topics/show/7399048-yema-n7s-and-n8s-spotted-on-ebay-leboncoin-and-yahoo-jp?page=3


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300808686623

RARE YEMA FLYGRAF DAYDATE CHRONOGRAPH STAINLESS STEEL QUARTZ MENS PILOTWATCH




Although the case-back serial number has already been obliterated, it shouldn't be too difficult to recognize when it re-appears as a Timely_Classic offering in a couple of weeks time. Apart from the non-original screw-down crown (which could be replaced, but I'm certain is unlikely to be, as that would actually involve Steve doing a bit of work), there's those stunning scabby / stained sub-dials.


Our friends at Timely_Classic seemed to want this more badly than anyone else did. Nobody else had bid on it in the last 4 days. :roll:

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=300808686623

Probably for no other reason than they got it for the relatively cheap price of $121.50 (approx. £76.37), so a profit margin is assured:



So there you have it. My predictions for the next 3 7Axx's coming soon to a notoriously disreputable UK eBay watch re-seller near you.

If you end up buying them, paying more than Timely_Classic paid for them, then you only have yourself to blame, for not reading this.

Caveat Emptor, Gentlemen - to all our readers.


November 12, 2012 at 4:17 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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:D:D

 

Just as you predicted Paul! :)

I'm curious about that franken 7A28...what will be the opening bid price? Let's make a guess...what about £60? Hmmm?

And also I bet in the auction's title there will be the following words: "very rare" and "original" :lol::lol:

November 12, 2012 at 5:08 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Indeed Arpad, as I predicted a week ago, when I first saw that 7A28 aberration, and wrote in my email to you on Monday 5th. ;)

 

You didn't miss anything (that I could see).

One thing I didn't write in my reply (to Arpad's post on the forum) is the other reason I added this to my eBay watching page -

I'm half hoping that Timely_Classic will bid on it and win. Then we can have a REALLY good laugh at his expense in a couple of weeks !


Seems they really are that predictable. :lol:

November 12, 2012 at 7:05 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at November 1, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Just in case you missed it (and needed any further convincing) ....

Everybody's favourite eBay (re)seller popped his head up on SCWF again: http://www.thewatchsite.com/index.php/topic,37928.0.html

Choice quotes, from various contributors to that thread, include:


I prefer the public shaming of slick weasels like you chum.

He couldn't tell the truth if it was a single word answer.

A new low / high for Time_Classics. That's got to be one of the worst hack job / cobbles I've seen out of them.

Notice that ever since we talked about shill bidding they've kept all their auctions private.

Buyer beware indeed, especially when it comes to the stuff you sell, and how you sell it.


.... and that's just from the first page ! :o



While we're waiting with baited breath for the next three Stunning Serviced Huge Timely_Classic ex-Filipino 7Axx offerings to appear,

I thought I ought to mention something. If any of you happen to click on the SCWF thread linked above, you'll get this error message:


The link I posted was good. By the time that thread had reached a third page, tempers were getting frayed and it was locked.

It seems that the SCWF moderator team has since seen fit to delete the thread in its entirety (rather than just remove offensive posts).

Now I wouldn't dream of using the term WHITEWASH, but it has been noted by others besides myself, that one SCWF moderator in particular, is keen to spring to the defence of Time_Classics / Timely_Classic and his motives deserve to be questioned. Nuff said. 


The original subject of that deleted thread was, IIRC, yet another over-polished after-market encrusted ex-Filipino 'Bullhead' offered by our favourite reviled UK eBay watch re-seller. There was a similarly-themed, rather more civil thread, started a month earlier on SCWF:

http://www.thewatchsite.com/index.php/topic,36907.html

Again, there were the usual accusations of mis-representation and shill bidding. Time_Classics elected to stay clear of this thread. :roll: 

The unfortunate thing is that this thread, which still exists, doesn't have any reference to their latest eBay user ID change in October.

So if an uninformed newbie were to search SCWF now, as of today, on Timely_Classic - they'd find ZERO results. How convenient. 


November 13, 2012 at 5:23 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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