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Moustachio
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:roll:

 

(I'm not surprised to see its one of our beloved Italian sellers either!)

February 20, 2013 at 7:49 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Those of us who might consider collecting the dressier versions of 7Axx's would probably agree that the 7A28-6040 is an attractive little watch and quite desirable, but only in Italy would you find an eBay seller trying to flog one (albeit NOS with tags) for $950 !! :lol:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160984443393




If you actually bother to scroll down the listing, you'll see that the Italian seller offers payment by installments (of $200 per month),

but more interestingly this appears to be a re-listing that was first created back in late 2011:

On Nov-06-11 at 16:04:20 PST, seller added the following information:


March 3, 2013 at 6:02 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Seiko7A38 at November 24, 2012 at 8:00 AM

Here's a very good reason why Phil's over-priced 7Axx's aren't selling - a partial copy and paste from my post on the previous page:


His asking price on this very desirable Ti 7A28 is the same £799. I suspect some may consider it, but the price really is way too high.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221153244645

SEIKO 7A28-7089 Titanium Chronograph 'A real Minter' Very Very Rare




Very remiss of me not to have included Phil's photo of the case-back in my previous all-too-brief mention that I gave his eBay listing:




If you should ever wonder where watches like this, in such superb condition come from, you only need to skim through this thread:

http://www.seiko7a38.com/apps/forums/topics/show/7540515-blink-and-you-ve-missed-it-or-was-it-you-who-nabbed-it-


This exact same Titanium 7A28-7029 serial number 437877 is actually mentioned at the very bottom of the first page:


Anybody here lucky enough to have bagged this NOS Titanium 7A28-7089 which was listed briefly on eBay UK yesterday afternoon ? 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271046556343

RARE NOS TITANIUM SEIKO CHRONO 7A28 MVMNT



Sold as a Buy-it-Now for £275.00 - which is a pretty fair price. The listing received 26 views before someone managed to strike a deal.



So now we know who bought it - and the blatantly obvious profiteering motive behind his snatch-and-grab purchase, don't we. 




An earlier quote: Moonphaze at November 14, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Hmmmmmmm I bet he would take a lot less for a direct sale 8)


Well, almost exactly 4 months after it was initially listed at £799, subsequently reduced to £699 and then later to £599 and .....

after receiving 16 offers including one for £500 (against his snatch-and-grab purchase price of £275), all of which were declined:

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&_trksid=p2047675.l2564&rt=nc&item=221153244645




So much for: “Immaculate Condition Priced to sell Quick!” :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221153244645



Only one word for it in my (Welsh phrase)  book , Phil - Trachwant


March 14, 2013 at 7:41 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Moonphaze at December 10, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Woop Woop Yeah Baby fame at last...!! Wanna buy it fella's? Throw me a figure... any figure something we can bounce around, NO SENSIBLE OFFER REFUSED! and to all my old customers on this forum.... your Id is safe. Nod Nod wink wink :lol: I never disclose a discreet sales figure.

Indeed, Phil - just occasionally you inadvertently disclose the more than sensible offers which you summarily declined. :P

March 14, 2013 at 8:12 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Seiko7A38 at December 10, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Seiko7A38 at June 2, 2012 at 10:29 AM

James' favourite Italian eBay seller 'Goffre78' may ask, and occasionally get away with, some of the most ridiculous prices on eBay,

but he also turns out the occasional extremely rare 'gem'. I'm not sure if he's listed this before, because the photos are dated May ....

But he's currently offering a genuinely rare NOS 7A36-7000 'Surf Timer' in the most desirable colour combination - black and yellow:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190685833300

SEIKO VINTAGE WATCH 7A36-7000 SURF TIMER PIECE MUSEUM ULTRA NOS RARE NEW MEGA



Yours for a mere MEGA $840.00 (approx. £547.73). 



Mind you, Goffre78 isn't the only one asking crazy LUDICROUS prices for 7T36 Surf Timers  (and other 'mint-ish 7Axx's). :roll:

Of course, we have a couple of would-be profiteering re-sellers, asking 'pie-in-the-sky' prices, a little closer to home, don't we ? 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221163869884

SEIKO 7A36-7000 SURF TIMER 'A real Minter' Highly sought after & Best Colour!




Although the current would-be seller has humorously obscured the serial number, might I suggest one compares the alignment of the case-back lettering and removal notches with the identical example in Goffre78's second photo. Too much of a coincidence, I'm afraid.

So from one totally deluded Italian eBay seller to an apparently similarly afflicted Welsh would-be profiteering re-seller. 

Nearly forgot to mention - yours now for a mere £799.00 



And yet another example of the sheer unadulterated greed of some of these would-be profiteering eBay re-sellers ....




Including turning down a more than reasonable offer earlier today of £510 (against the reduced, but still ridiculous price of £599)  !!!



March 15, 2013 at 12:22 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Moonphaze at December 10, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Woop Woop Yeah Baby fame at last...!! 

How's it go, Phil ?  More like infamy I'd say.


March 15, 2013 at 12:36 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Here's his latest laugh-a-minute eBay listing for a grossly over-priced 7A38-7140, asking a mere £699 for a worn used example !! 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321090329501


March 15, 2013 at 1:32 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Moonphaze

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I will try again.... what do you think of my photo's? 8)

March 15, 2013 at 3:44 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Bit dark actually, Phil. :/

But then the available natural light is cr*p at the moment. Your yellow doesn't look quite bright enough (to do the dial proper justice).

Needs a bit of sunlight to bring out the true colour like this 8)

But otherwise of your usual very high standard. ;)

Pity about the price though. :P

March 15, 2013 at 3:48 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Moonphaze

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Hmmm I'm just getting the hang of this Lumix FZ200, I'm using a quality light box, maybe I have to try different tubes, still you cannot beat quality daylight, mind you the photo's were good enough for you to brand the watch "a worn used example" so you must have picked up the minor wear marks!! the poor thing feels like a washed up hooker! thanks mate :(

March 15, 2013 at 4:00 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Item condition: Used  “Gentle surface wear, no rubbing to the PVD.” Wear = means it has been 'Worn' doesn't it ? :/

Besides NOBODY takes any notice of this insignificant little watch forum (your own words, IIRC), do they ? 


Edit: I subsequently found the original email message and it would appear I have misquoted him slightly:

The good news is forums will never affect world prices or indeed demand... they never have! 

Forum member 'Moonphase' (a.k.a. KineticsInc2012 on eBay) has been banned (for his insulting manner). He was warned.

His last four posts in this thread (3 of which included the sarcastic phrase 'The Exalted One', alluding to myself) have been deleted. 

March 15, 2013 at 4:09 PM Flag Quote & Reply

jair1970
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No time right now but the absurd prices disease appears highly contagious:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121082066405

March 16, 2013 at 4:07 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Yeah. Pretty obvious they got the idea for the stupid price off manic-relisting 'Mad Martina' - the same model 7A38-7289 gold-tone. :roll:

Probably using the same 10x mark-up factor. Nobody in their right mind would have paid $50 for that tired example in the first place. :lol:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121082066405

March 16, 2013 at 4:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at March 15, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Here's his latest laugh-a-minute eBay listing for a grossly over-priced 7A38-7140, asking a mere £699 for a worn used example !! 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321090329501


It would appear that banned forum member 'MoonPhase', a.k.a. Kineticsinc2012 on eBay, has completely lost the plot. 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321090329501


Toys out of pram and then some. 

For those following (or trying to follow) his laugh-a-minute listing, check out this thread in the Members section:

http://www.seiko7a38.com/apps/forums/topics/show/8772891-banned-member-moonphase-a-k-a-kineticsinc2012-?


March 17, 2013 at 1:00 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Not certain whether this 7A28-7000 properly belongs here (because of it's ridiculous price) or in the 'Bottom of the 7Axx Barrel' thread.

'Cos this sure is one ropey 'Aliens'. 


http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r99786977

セイコー☆7A28☆エイリアン☆ジウジアーロ☆超希少カスタム品!



It was once a BLACK JDM 7A28-7000 which has been stripped of most of it's black chrome coating and polished ....

It's missing both (yellow) plastic pusher buttons; the dial printing is quite faded and the bracelet is badly stretched. :(

The asking price ? :|

100,000 Japanese Yen - that's £695 or $1050 US !!! :lol:

March 18, 2013 at 6:57 PM Flag Quote & Reply

7ARCool
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If that finish was an original design and fitted with black pusher buttons I would have bought one.

You could wear it without the worry of ruining the PVD coating and you could polish any imperfections.  8)


March 18, 2013 at 7:29 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Yup. This is definitely turning into 'Mad March' - with or without the hares. 

Re-listed overnight by Hong Kong-based eBay militaria dealer - markhitcommysinablogcom ....

The same two 7A38's which he first offered (IIRC) back in October last year at the initial prices of $1999.33 each ! :lol:

Same scabby 7A38-7000 without bracelet was also mentioned in the 7A38-xxxx model specific thread because of the military B/S.

Same beaten-up stainless 7A38-7020 was also mentioned in the 'undisclosed incorrect bracelet fitted thread', if my memory serves.

Yours now for an absolute bargain $999.33 each.  Especially for the completely mis-informed military enthusiasts out there. 


See: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181105920132 and: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171010420772 (but only if you really must). :roll:



March 19, 2013 at 6:45 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Mmmm. Speaking of Mad March ....

Very remiss of me to have omitted to mention the activities of manic re-listing US re-seller Mad Martina Martinachertok in this thread.



They do of course have their own dedicated topic in this forum section, but just in case anybody reading for the first time missed it:

http://www.seiko7a38.com/apps/forums/topics/show/8705980-more-ebay-seller-shenanigans-warning-multiple-re-listings

There is also a parallel (shorter) thread in the Seiko & Citizen sub-forum on WatchUSeek:

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f21/increased-asking-price-seiko-7a38-ebay-multiple-re-listings-826021.html

Currently their 7A38-7000 is on it's 37th listing and the gold-tone 7A38-7289 on 'only' its 6th listing (both within less than a month). :roll:

Latest updates (as to the current listing / item number) can be found at the top of page 4 of our forum's thread.

March 19, 2013 at 7:04 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Seems I overlooked this other pie-in-the-sky 7Axx offering from Hong Kong eBay militaria dealer, markhitcommysinablogcom earlier ....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181105932848



Nothing more than an average example of the Giugiaro-designed 7A28-7050, but a stupendously stupid asking price of $2399:lol:

Perhaps he plans to start a silly 'pricing war' with the crazy Italian eBay sellers, like Goffre78. But then at least their 7Axx's are NOS. :roll:

March 19, 2013 at 4:00 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Sir Alan
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I get the feeling that a number of sellers are trying to acclimatise us to these crazy high prices. I presume their thinking is that after a while we will start to accept (if not actually pay) them as a baseline.


Then, when they 'drop' the price I guess we'll all think it's a bargain and snap up their offerings.


I'm sure there is some reverse psychology in all of this somewhere. But who cares .....


As they say, money talks ;)

March 19, 2013 at 7:10 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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