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Seiko7A38 at July 28, 2014 at 5:50 AM

The re-listing for that NOS 7A38-6000 bezel and crystal was ended early yesterday evening - the 'error' presumably being the price:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171394948488


More likely, I suspect, as happens all too frequently nowadays, someone made the seller an offer outside eBay. 



Well perhaps I shouldn't be quite so quick jumping to conclusions ....

Or for that matter, tarring all 'greedy' eBay spare parts sellers with the same brush (see my preceding post to that one). :/


The seller subsequently re-listed it @ a slightly reduced price of Buy-it-Now price of $139 - probably at least half a dozen times ....


http://www.ebay.com/itm/171452284801 (ended September 13th)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181525626945 (ended September 18th)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171465997884 (ended September 23rd)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171481951358 (ended October 6th)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171488715760 (ended October 11th)


.... From October, adding another two photos (of the crystal and bezel gaskets he'd subsequently chucked in 'for free' in the price):

(This is including gasket for glass - part number 865667700 and gasket of rotating bezel - part number 0Z3214B02 ONE PIECE ONLY each)


Yesterday, I noticed he'd added a 'Make Best Offer' button and made him a rather cheeky low-ball offer (expecting to be declined):

This morning I checked my emails to find he'd actually accepted it ! :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181555485382


So although it didn't really need one, looks like my little 7A38-6000 'Dinky Diver' may get treated to a NOS bezel in the near future. :D


October 12, 2014 at 8:23 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Erstwhile fanatical Australian collector Stuart Lennard (ex-forum member 'ginny') appears to be carrying on with the dissolution of his 7Axx collection. Two weeks ago he listed eight various 7Axx's on eBay: a mixture of 7A28's, 7A38's and 7A48's. Overnight, he's listed another ten - mostly 7A38's this time. I'm not going to speculate as to his reasons - nor am I going to pass unnecessary comment on all of them. I'll simply document the sales of those where we already have a pre-existing 7A38-xxxx model specific thread, like this one.

 

Here's Stuart's listing for the stainless 7A38-6000 'Dinky Diver' Panda: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121464195381




Once again, I've only bothered to upload half of Stuart's 11 photos because, as per usual, many are very similar and frankly lacklustre.




SHIPPING WORLDWIDE EXPRESS WITH TRACKING 3-4DAYS $42.00 WITHIN AUSTRALIA EXPRESS TRACKING $13.00 

SEIKO 7A38-6000 PANDA INCLUDING BOX AND TAG 

THESE DONT COME UP FOR SALE OFTEN . IN EXCELLENT CONDITION . ONLY MINER SCRATCHES, (MOSTLY ON BACKCASE) ALL FUNCTIONS WORK AS THEY SHOULD. 

CRYSTAL LOOKS LIKE NEW. 

I AM HAPPY TO COMBINE SHIPPING , ONE , TWO, OR THREE WATCHES, ALL THE SAME SHIPPING PRICE $42.00 

IF YOU WIN MORE THAN ONE AUCTION, WAIT TILL I SEND INVOICE WITH ADJUSTED SHIPPING RATE. 

WITHIN AUSTRALIA WAIT TILL I SEND INVOICE WITH ADJUSTED SHIPPING RATE $13.00. 

I only post to confirmed paypal address. No post office boxes 

Customer is responsible for additional if any , custom fees, brockerage fees, duties and or taxes. 

SORRY BUT DUE TO POSTAGE REGULATIONS I CANNOT SHIP WITH BATTERY.


If you're planning on bidding on this one, a few points to be wary of ....

It's not quite exactly in the  'EXCELLENT' condition Stuart would have you believe - regardless of the 'MINER SCRATCHES'

This is the same 7A38-6000 which he bought off Filipino eBay seller watch_yours early in May, documented on the previous page:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151287391908



Now Stuart may have paid 'silly money' for it (as was frequently his want), but a few of us had noticed the strange staining around the minute marker ring in the original seller's photos - and a couple of us commented on it at the time:



One thing that wasn't apparent in the previous seller's photos was just how short the bracelet was. Check Stuart's two side-on view photos. Note that it's set on the last hole of clasp adjustment and that there are only 3 adjustment links fitted. For small wrists only !! 


The rather nice looking vintage teak Seiko box and tag (and stand) that Stuart shows in his photos are nothing to do with this watch.

I remember seeing him picking up a job lot of (empty) Seiko Boxes a while back. If I can find the eBay listing again, I'll post a link. ;)


October 19, 2014 at 7:36 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Stuart Lennard's (a.k.a. eBay seller rubyginny) auction for his 7A38-6000 'Panda' with 'Miner scratches' ended about 15 minutes ago.

It sold for $355.85 (USD as opposed to AUD) equivalent to £221.27 after 20 bids:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121464195381

October 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Bit of a 'late spot', this one. :roll:

I belately stumbled across this presumably short-lived US eBay.com listing for a what appears to be tidy-looking 7A38-6000 (fitted with a non-original bracelet) from history. It was probably only llve for a couple of hours, before someone hit the Buy-it-Now button.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/291364949109




Vintage Seiko 7A38-6000 Quartz Chronograph Watch Sports 100 Rare Model 

Case: 37mm stainless steel case with original finish. The case has wear and scratches. The bezel rotates but is VERY STIFF. The original bezel insert is dark blue with a few small nicks and dents. 

Dial: Light-grey dial with dark blue subdials. The dial and second ring is in excellent condition with working lume. The hour hand is missing a little paint near the center. 

Crystal: Original mineral crystal with a few light scratches. 

Band: Custom 18mm stainless steel Speidel band (Rolex style). The band will fit up to a 7.75” wrist. 

Movement: Original 7A38 quartz chronograph movement with 1/20 second counter. Arabic/English day and date display. Chronograph, split, reset, and demo all work (movement serviced November 2014). 

Condition: Pre-owned watch with signs of wear. Watch is fully functional and ready to wear. No box, tags, or papers.


Not sure if the case had been re-finished, but in 4th photo down, the radial brushing on that lug doesn't look very even.

That photo (and others) also serves to highlight the very poor fit of the after-market bracelet's (far too small) end pieces.


February 6, 2015 at 12:20 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This reasonably tidy looking (allegedly almost immaculate - but read the condition box) 7A38-6000 was listed overnight by a wishful Australian eBay seller, with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now asking price of $850Au.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301552353107



Extremely rare model. Google it and see if you can find one..

Chance to own some history or investment. 

 

Specifications and Buyers Guide: 7A38-6000 - 

Date: 4N1790 Nov 1984 


Size: 37mm diameter (excluding crown and pushers) x 11mm deep - 18mm lug width fixing. 

Case material: Stainless steel - not coated. Top of case (lug area) is (rotary) brushed, case sides polished with a swage line. 

Bi-directional 60-click bezel with enamelled deep metallic blue bezel insert and conventional 'Diver' ▽ | 10 | 20 | 30 | 40 | 50 | scale. 

It is a matt pale silvery-grey with very dark blue sub dials. 

Dial markings: '12' at top of dial; SEIKO (printed) QUARTZ Chronograph SPORTS 100; at bottom JAPAN 7A38 600L T Suwa symbol. 

Day and Date wheels: White lettering on black background. 

Hands: Main handset is all black (with lume). Sweep second hands has a red-painted tip. Sub-dial hands are silvery-white. 

Seiko crystal p/n: 285W26GN00 - 28.5mm Ø x 1.85mm thick, with polished bevel 

Case-back markings: Double Wave Caseback; stamped 7A38-6000 [A0] SEIKO STAINLESS STEEL WATER RESISTANT JAPAN S 

Seiko bracelet p/n: G1157S - 'ears' of bracelet end pieces are stamped G1157. Fixing by 18mm x 1.5mm Ø spring bars. 

Clasp is 'standard' brushed finish - 16mm x 35mm long, with 7 adjustment holes, stamped SEIKO SQ

 

Watch has just been serviced with new battery and pressure test. 

7 days return policy in place for reassurance on all the descriptions. 

Returned item needs to be in exact some order as when advertised.


Should parts of the description look vaguely familiar, it's because the seller has copied the bulk of it, almost verbatim, from this thread.

Google it indeed. :roll:


March 5, 2015 at 6:50 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Well that didn't last long. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301552353107




The error must have been in the pricing. :P Either that or the seller wasn't impressed by the 2 offers made (and withdrawn). :lol:


http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item=301552353107


March 6, 2015 at 4:40 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This listing, by a French eBay seller, for a 7A38-6000 fitted with a black aftermarket bezel insert and one of those plastic Caoutchouc Tropic dive straps first appeared yesterday lunchtime - with a small error in the listing title: implying that it had a 200m depth rating. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301582318573



It has since been revised slightly: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDetails&item=301582318573



Authentique Seiko vintage mouvements quartz type 7A38-6000 mixte car dimension: diamètre environ 37mm fonctionne parfaitement, état rare. réf.: chronograph sport 100 jour et date bracelet plongée type tag heuer accompagné d'un bracelet acier siglé seiko issue de notre collection familiale pas d'envoi à l'étranger.


I haven't bothered going back through the preceding pages to check, but ignoring the 'Tropic' strap, which may well have been fitted by the current seller, I'd suspect that this is one we've probably seen before, previously sold by one of the Filipino watch botchers.

Thankfully, the French seller is now restrictricting the sale to his fellow countrymen.Note also that he doesn't accept PayPal.


April 3, 2015 at 11:45 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This next listing by an Australian eBay seller is very much a definite case of Déjà vu - you just need to scroll back up the page. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301582978653



I haven't (yet) bothered comparing the photos and description with his previous listing from March - I suspect they're much the same.

The difference with this re-listing is that his 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price has since jumped from $850Au to $1250Au !! :o


Edit: O.K. So I subsequently relented and had a quick look at the 'new' listing description. :roll:

Much of it is still copied almost verbatim from the 'Specification and Buyer's Guide' section of this forum's topic.

Amusingly, the suggestion to 'Google it' is still there. But there was one new short sentence he's added, which caught my eye:

Value keeps rising.

Only in your dreams, marcspix !! 


April 3, 2015 at 12:05 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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In fact, although at first glance, the first 4 may look very similar to those of his previous listing in March - all the photos are new:




So, as I wrote in my initial summation, back in March - a reasonaby tidy looking example - but certainly not 'mint' or 'immaculate'.

Worth the kind of money the Australian seller marcspix is now asking for it - or even half that figure ? I don't think so personally. 


Remember when Italian eBay seller strega_68 let that NOS example go, after re-listing it for 6 months ? - it finally sold for $600.

April 3, 2015 at 1:19 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The re-listed auction by a French eBay seller for that 7A38-6000, fitted with a black aftermarket bezel insert and Tropic dive strap, ended about 10 minutes ago. It sold for the slightly reduced opening bid price of 160 Euros (approx. £115).


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301588846803


April 16, 2015 at 8:38 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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It seems that whoever placed those two bids on the French eBay seller's 7A38-6000 (the one fitted with the black aftermarket bezel insert and Tropic dive strap) got cold feet, because it's back on eBay - re-listed. This time offered with an unidentified Seiko Jubilee bracelet for a reduced opening bid price of 110 Euros (plus the original 170 Euro Buy-it-Now option).


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301599527031



Authentique Seiko vintage mouvements quartz type 7A38-6000 mixte car dimension: diamètre environ 37mm fonctionne parfaitement, état rare. réf.: chronograph sport 100 jour et date bracelet plongée type tag heuer accompagné d'un bracelet acier siglé Seiko issue de notre collection familiale original , je ne vends pas de copies ni de montres "fake" pas d'envoi à l'étranger acheteurs fantômes ou indécis, respectez les règles d'Ebay.


April 19, 2015 at 6:27 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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In case anybody who may have been watching the latest re-listing for that grossly over-priced 7A38-6000, had failed to notice ....

Australian eBay seller marcspix ended it early, in the early hours of yesterday morning - allegedly because it was no longer available.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301592982281




Given the way it 'disappeared' before (when previously priced @ $850 Au), I suspect that's not the last we've seen of it. 


April 21, 2015 at 5:06 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The re-listed auction by the French eBay seller, for the 7A38-6000 on a Tropic dive strap (now also supplied with a non-original Seiko bracelet) ended about 10 minutes ago. This time around it sold for a rather more realistic 117 Euros (approx. £83.83) after 8 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301599527031

April 25, 2015 at 3:43 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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US eBay seller mc_kashio who is currently offering a job lot of two 7A38-6050's also listed this 7A38-6000 later yesterday evening.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261909840338



Vintage Seiko Quartz Chronograph Model 7A38-6000 

100% functioning 

Nice example of a classic quartz chronograph with mint crystal and replacement bezel insert. Bought on ebay a couple of years ago and worn only a few times. Includes non-original bracelet shown as well as a non-original matching jubilee bracelet. 

1/20 second 30 minute stopwatch 

Day-Date 

60 Minute Bezel 

15 Jewel Quartz 7A38 Movement - clean/no corrosion 

Back cover was polished by previous seller 

FREE SHIPPING via insured UPS in lower 48

Guaranteed as described but sold as-is...please email with questions allowing at least 12 hours for reply. Thanks!


As with his two 7A38-6050's it's not difficult to figure out where and when he bought it. Although now fitted with a cheap-looking stainless aftermarket bracelet, the black aftermarket bezel insert with its prominent lume pip is a dead giveaway. The previous eBay seller, in January 2013, was Filipino watch botcher time_essence - as documented in more detail on the first page of this thread.

The well over-polished case-back and serial number 4N1467 match too ....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290840757452 (item number now dropped off eBay history)

June 1, 2015 at 1:37 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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That 7-day listing by eBay seller mc_kashio was due to finish Sunday evening @ 8:25pm - but yesterday he ended it a day early:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261909840338



Presumably the error was in the (poor) choice of bracelet fitted. You'll note in his description the seller had written:

Includes non-original bracelet shown as well as a non-original matching jubilee bracelet.

Because 2 hours later, it was back on eBay again, re-listed - fitted with that other non-original jubilee style bracelet:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361314454269




It may still be 'a wrong un', but I personally think it looks better for the bracelet swap.


June 7, 2015 at 5:51 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Much to my surprise, eBay seller mc_kashio ended his re-listing for the above 7A38-6000 early, yesterday evening - as sold. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361314454269



Presumably it sold for more than the last bid price of $129. :/


June 8, 2015 at 3:05 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Earlier today, Italian eBay seller valentinasex (a.k.a. Alberto Ulmi, previously better known by his other eBay ID goffre78 - King of the Craziest prices, crappy photos and semi-literate sometimes misleading descriptions) listed a NOS 7A38-6000, with a typically ludicrous Buy-it-Now asking price of $1850.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181775086595



 

ORIGINALE SEIKO ALIEN 7A38-6000 SERIE GIUGIARO CON SCATOLA NO TAG SI MANUALE 

X ALTRE INFO CONTATTATEMI DA MUSEO DELLA SEIKO INTROVABILE

 

ORIGINAL SEIKO VINTAGE WATCH 7A38-6000 NEW OLD THE STOCK BOX NO TAG YES MANUAL PERFECT WORK SPECIAL VERSION IMPOSSIBOL FIND


X COLLEZIONISTI E NON 

FOR COLLECTION! 

SHIPPING TO EUROPE 25$ EXPRESS 

SHIPPING TO WORLDWIDE 35$ EXPRESS 


I'm not sure why Alberto thinks this is a 'special version' (apart from his mis-use of other completely irrelevant keywords) ....

But what I did home in on was the 52xxxx case-back serial number (more commonly 7A38-6000's have 4Nxxxx serial numbers).

At first I thought it might be the same NOS 7A38-6000 offered by Italian husband and wife eBay sellers, angeli_65 and strega_68 back in June 2012, then with a pie-in-the-sky BIN asking price of $1500, but No; that one was s/n 528139, whereas this is 528932.

Probably worth remembering that one finally sold in January 2013 for a somewhat reduced $600. :roll:


Speaking of ridiculously high 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now asking prices .....


June 15, 2015 at 2:43 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at April 21, 2015 at 5:06 PM

In case anybody who may have been watching the latest re-listing for that grossly over-priced 7A38-6000, had failed to notice ....

Australian eBay seller marcspix ended it early, in the early hours of yesterday morning - allegedly because it was no longer available.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301592982281




Given the way it 'disappeared' before (when previously priced @ $850 Au), I suspect that's not the last we've seen of it. 



Just as I predicted - it's back on eBay - albeit two months later, re-listed once again, still asking $1250 Au.  


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301664592768 - ended early (after one day) and replaced with http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301665291425


June 17, 2015 at 11:57 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I am becoming increasingly frustrated (read  angry) by eBay's continued policy of corrupting data in the name of privacy. 

Going back a couple of years, when an item sold against a Best Offer, you could see the figure it actually sold for (on eBay).

Then they started just showing the listing result with the original Buy-it-Now price lined through and 'Best Offer accepted'.

But at least you could check what that selling figure actually was using Goofbid's eBay Best Offer History tool.


Yesterday (Saturday) I was at work - busy supervising some contractors.

I didn't have time to write anything on the forum, but I did briefly check my eBay watching page.

I noticed, to my surprise that Alberto Ulmi's (valentinasex) grossly over-priced NOS 7A38-6000 had sold against a Best Offer.

I didn't take a screen print at the time - I thought I'd do it this morning, at my leisure, when I belatedly wrote up this post.

If you click on that link now, it shows as having sold for the full $1850 Buy-it-Now price !! :o


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181775086595



Fortunately, I did have the foresight (and 5 minutes to spare at the time) to take a screen print of the Goofbid result (which still works):




If Goofbid's figures are to be believed (and it's getting to the point where I'm more inclined to trust them rather than eBay) ....

It actually sold for a whopping $1000 !! 


June 21, 2015 at 6:01 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Hah ! I knew I wasn't going daft. :D


Perhaps that incorrect result was (yet another) eBay glitch - or maybe eBay's programmers have only done half a job, so far ....

Because if you search eBay.com Worldwide on ended listings for Seiko 7A38, it still shows that it sold for a Best Offer accepted. 


June 21, 2015 at 7:54 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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