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The stainless 7A38-7000 certainly seems to be 'flavour of the month' lately - and they just keep on coming. This example was listed yesterday evening by a UK eBay seller, with an opening bid price of £9.99 and no reserve. It has to be said that the selection of photos uploaded by seller are a bit of an odd mix (size, quality and composition). What's more, as soon as I started scrolling through them, I got that sense of Déjà Vu - which is the reason why I've only bothered to upload 6 of his 9 photos - as you'll see in a moment.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311797628690


Selling reluctantly to thin my collection as i have another similar model -Superb and highly renowned quartz movement stamped Seiko 7A38A -7000 15 JEWELS Japan...this was the worlds first analogue chronograph movement - very rare and supercool vintage Seiko -don't even see another on ebay. 

Minor blemishes as would expect but nothing of any consequenceI -working beautifully with new battery and keeping accurate time will come in a later original Seiko replacement box. This is a superb vintage Seiko ready to wear and add to your collection...

Quartz Chronograph with Tachymeter Ring

The Watch Is In Full Working Order -resets to 12 perfectly -day date wheels change over smoothly the bracelet is a full one so will easily accomodate up to 8inch wrist or can be altered down of course

The Dial Is Black Colour in Excellent Condition with silvered sub dials Luminous Hands Hour Markers,

Day/ Date Window

The Case Back Reads:

Seiko Stainless Steel Water Resistant 302855 Japan 7A38 - 7000 A5

Measures 40mm Diameter Excluding Crown

The Crystal Is In Excellent Clear Condition with No Visible Scratches

Original Seiko Stainless Steel Strap with silvered subdials

Watch Is In V. G. Vintage Cosmetic Condition and Full Working Order

all functions are working perfectly inc alarm :lol:

 PLEASE NOTE you will see i have taken a couple images today showing the date -but it is shown on leather strap which i prefer although the watch will be delivered only with the original bracelet !! 

Comes in a Seiko presentation box which obviously is not as old as the watch -beautiful collectible and wearable and very hard to find in this condition vintage Seiko Chronometer 

Manual / Instructions can be downloaded from:

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f9/seiko-7a38-chronograph-manual-87529.html

or i can email one to the buyer 

Low start no reserve and will be sent by special delivery for your protection and mine -please check my feedback -i am not a dealer but a collector of watches and also Seiko fanatic !


Note that the serial number stated by the seller in his description, 302855 does not match that shown in the photos (3O2194).


February 8, 2017 at 6:33 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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These are the other three photos which the seller has also included in his listing (although inexplicably he couldn't manage to upload them all the same original size). I already had them uploaded to my PhotoBucket.




They were 'borrowed' from a UK eBay listing which appeared in September last year and is documented on page 4 of this thread.

By all means, if you haven't read all the way through, please go back and check (all) the photos and my comments at the time. 

The case-back serial number 3O2194 in the above photo matches that of the current seller's photo (on a leather strap).


Here follows (in quotes) my last two posts on the subject of that previous eBay listing for a stainless 7A38-7000 ....


February 8, 2017 at 6:56 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at September 19, 2016 at 4:30 AM

Speculatively well over-priced or not, there seems to have been quite a lot of interest in that distinctly average stainless 7A38-7000. Last time I checked, yesterday evening, it had 48 watchers. By the time the listing ended in the early hours of this morning, it had received just over 1000 views during the course of the 7 days. That said, the listing ended with the watch apparently unsold.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272373066050


I suspect that with the level of interest, (lower) offers were made - and presumably rejected by the seller.

Unfortunately Goofbid is down at present, so I can't check what they might have been - but I'll keep trying. ;)



Followed two days later by ....


February 8, 2017 at 7:12 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at September 21, 2016 at 7:18 AM

Slightly belated update. My bad - Goofbid wasn't down. It was a problem with my (outdated) SSL settings in Chrome. :roll:

As I'd suspected, there were a couple of offers made on that 7A38-7000 listed by distinktive-m - all 3 were rejected.


http://www.goofbid.com/ebay_best_offers_tool.html?gbo_username=distinktive-m




They ranged from £170 to £200, about what I'd consider this watch to be worth in real money terms.

It hasn't been re-listed since, so it's probably safe to assume that it was subsequently sold off eBay.



Which is exactly what must have happened, as I'd surmised. Indeed, if you check the seller's feedback, as he suggests, both as a buyer and seller, you'll see a number left and received by distinktive-m, but none that can be directly connected to this watch.

February 8, 2017 at 7:13 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at February 8, 2017 at 6:33 PM

Note that the serial number stated by the seller in his description, 302855 does not match that shown in the photos (3O2194).



I note that the eBay seller has since clarified his earlier mistake by adding a footnote to the description.

On 09-Feb-17 at 01:02:13 GMT, seller added the following information:

Apologies the serial no is of course as shown in the photos 302194


Possibly s/n 3O2855 is the other stainless 7A38-7000 which he owns, referred to in the description and he confused them:

Selling reluctantly to thin my collection as i have another similar model


Naturally, the long-running saga of that particular 7A38-7000 is covered earlier in this thread - on page 3.




It was first listed on eBay in early January 2015, but thanks to various shenigans by the seller, didn't finally sell until mid-May. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191576652837


February 9, 2017 at 9:18 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Bidding on that auction for a stainless 7A38-7000 had been pretty sluggish. IIRC, by yesterday lunchtime when I last looked at it, it had struggled to reach a mere £38 after half a dozen bids. Yesterday afternoon the seller ended the listing early - as no longer available. So presumably he's sold it off eBay via a 'back door' offer - the same way he'd acquired it himself. :/


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311797628690


February 11, 2017 at 7:25 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This decent used example of a stainless 7A38-7000 was listed yesterday evening by an Austrian eBay seller with an opening bid price of 1 Euro and no reserve.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252857840716


Sie bieten hier auf eine vintage

SEIKO Chronograph Quarz Herren Armbanduhr.

Ref. 7A38 - 7000.

Maß ohne Krone : ca. 41 X 40 mm.

Edelstahl Gehäuse mit geschraubtem Edelstahl boden.

Umfang Uhr + Armband: 195 mm.

Originales Seiko Edelstahlband und Schließe.

Datumanzeige bei 3:00 Uhr.

Chronograph.

Die Uhr befindet sich in einen gebrauchten Zustand ( Deckel hat zwei kleine Dellen )und funktioniert Einwandfrei.

Sehen Sie sich meine anderen Artikeln an !!

Viel Spaß beim Bieten !!


April 12, 2017 at 7:25 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above German eBay auction for a stainless 7A38-7000 ended 5 minutes ago, selling for a strong 337 Euros after 24 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252857840716


April 16, 2017 at 1:36 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 'nice' decent condition stainless 7A38-7000 was listed this morning by a US eBay seller, with a Buy-it-Now price of $450.

It's being offered through eBay's GSP program, which means that any potential UK buyers would need to add $125 to that price.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272639664943

                                    


For sale is a nice Seiko Quartz Chronograph 7A38-7000. The watch is in nice original condition. The crystal is clean, and does not have any scratches. The box is likely not original, but it is vintage and included with the watch. The watch is in good working condition.


April 21, 2017 at 3:06 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Going through my eBay watching page this morning, I noticed the above US eBay listing for a stainless 7A38-7000 had ended.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272639664943


I had a pretty good idea that it would have sold against a Best Offer (rather than for the full $430 Buy-it-Now asking price) ....

So I straightaway plugged the item number into WatchCount.com - which shows it actually sold against a Best Offer of $350:



As indeed confirmed by eBay's Purchase History: http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item=272639664943


May 6, 2017 at 8:24 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at April 16, 2017 at 1:36 PM

The above German eBay auction for a stainless 7A38-7000 ended 5 minutes ago, selling for a strong 337 Euros after 24 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252857840716



Hmm. Something's up. :/ Yesterday evening, almost exactly one month after it had apparently sold for a very good price, the Austrian eBay seller barann14 has re-listed that stainless 7A38-7000.


The re-listed auction appears identical to the original: same photos, same description. There's no hint of an explanation as to why it's being re-listed (e.g. non-paying bidder). I've looked at the bidding history for the previous auction (again) and there isn't any obvious evidence of shill bidding. :/

May 17, 2017 at 5:02 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above re-listed German eBay auction for a stainless 7A38-7000 ended a few moments ago selling for 256 Euros (approx. £220) after 23 bids. Probably a rather more realistic figure than the 337 Euros (approx. £286) it had been bid to in the previous auction. Though by his placing a 'safety' bid in the closing seconds, the winning bidder appears prepared to have gone higher.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252941341134


May 21, 2017 at 1:46 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This stainless 7A38-7000, in decent used cosmetic condition, was listed earlier today by a UK eBay seller with a low start opening bid price of  £0.99 and without any mention of the model number in the title or description.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272725487649


This gents vintage Seiko chronograph watch is circa 1980's and in overall good condition due to its age, with only a few surface scratches.

Case diameter is 35mm.

Quartz movement, fully working with new battery.

Secure deployment clasp, clicking nicely.

Will comfortably fit an 8" wrist with room for expantion.

No box or papers.


The normally accepted method of measuring the watch case of this model is 'across the flats' = 40mm rather than '35'. :roll:

Note that the SQ clasp has been fitted with a spring loaded extender, presumably due to a shortage of adjustment links.


June 21, 2017 at 3:28 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above UK eBay auction for a stainless 7A38-7000 ended a couple of days ago, selling for £170 after 26 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272725487649


June 28, 2017 at 4:08 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I have a confession to make.  It was myself who won the above auction, though I really don't know why I bought it. 

I was suffering from 'Buyer's Remorse' before I even paid for it. I nearly asked the seller to cancel the transaction. :roll:

Anyway, I paid him and it arrived on Wednesday morning. I really should have just packed it up and returned it straight away.

Apart from the watch case and bracelet being in only average condition (and pretty damned grubby), it also had issues.

I sent the seller this message:



I was hoping he would just tell me to return it for a full refund, but instead he surprised me by replying with this other option:



Like a fool, I decided to keep it and accepted the partial refund, which bought the purchase price down to a more sensible £100.


I'd assumed the issues would be fairly easy to resolve. As it transpires, the chronograph reset problem is not quite an easy fix as I'd imagined - and at the time of writing has me scratching my head in bewilderment.  See this thread in the Workshop section.


July 2, 2017 at 8:55 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 'head only' stainless 7A38-7000 was listed in the early hours of this morning by a US eBay seller as 'Parts or Repair'. Note that the tail is missing from the sweep second hand and the mis-aligned Tachymeter ring, which hint that someone has had the movement out of the case and possibly fumbled an attempt at repair.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292201716784

August 2, 2017 at 3:06 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above US eBay auction for a stainless 7A38-7000 'head only' parts or repair watch ended in the early hours of this morning, selling for the opening bid price of $79.97.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292201716784


August 7, 2017 at 1:37 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Well perhaps the potential buyer had second thoughts and came to his senses, because that stainless 7A38-7000 'head only' parts watch was re-listed in the early hours of this morning. Same opening bid price of $80 (give or take a few cents) as before. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302415914826



Belated Edit 22-08-17: No bids; went unsold and re-listed again: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302423492362


August 15, 2017 at 9:06 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Yesterday, certain parts of the globe, including North America experienced a total eclipse of the sun. We were supposed to have a partial eclipse about 7:30pm, but of course (typical English summer) we didn't see the sun all day, because of cloud cover. :(

However, in one corner of middle England there appears to have been a total black-out. :roll:


This stainless 7A38-7000 was listed yesterday evening by a UK seller with a Buy-it-Now price of £300 or Best Offer. I don't think I've seen such a deliberately badly lit set of photos in a long time. The seller appears to be using the 'Cloak of Darkness' technique, employed to good effect by devious sellers like German eBay seller Fiedler-Uhrenhandel 'The Fiddler'. And who could forget Time_Classics / Timely_Classic - the erstwhile expert exponents of the photo noir ? 

Maybe it's just my tired old eyes  but I certainly wouldn't want to risk £300 Quid (or anything like), without seeing some properly lit photos - particularly the condition of the bracelet, which the seller seems to have gone to some length to conceal. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222620292631


That last photo of the black presentation box is a (timely) classic ! 


I have for sale a vintage Seiko 7A38-7000 quartz chronograph watch. The watch is in fully working condition (including the 2 second test). The only issue I have found is that it could do with a bit of a clean as the buttons sometimes stick.

The watch comes with its box and is on its original bracelet. The Seiko reference dates the watch to January 1984.

Overseas bidders welcome as always!

Apologies for the postage costs - the shipping costs go up considerably when insurance hits a certain amount. If I accept an offer of £250 or under the overseas postage will be £15 :)

If you have any questions please feel free to ask.

Please see my other auctions for more watches.


August 22, 2017 at 5:20 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above eBay listing for a stainless 7A38-7000 ended this morning.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222620292631



It didn't sell for the full £300 Buy-it-Now price, as misleadingly shown in the eBay ended listing summary, nor for £250 as implied in the seller's description, but against a Best Offer for £230. I know this for a fact. 8) Yesterday I traded a number of good-natured and sometimes light-hearted messages with the seller. This morning he messaged me again, stating he had an offer pending for that amount. In my reply I suggested that, based on his current somewhat less than enlightening set of photos, it wasn't unreasonable and might be as good as any offer he was likely to get. Looks like he accepted it - as confirmed by the eBay Purchase History.

August 23, 2017 at 7:53 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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