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Seiko7A38 at April 13, 2017 at 7:14 AM

Here's another gold-tone 7A38-7000 listed by a US seller late last night (just after Midnight UK time). I'm not sure whether this one might be suffering from rust creeping from underneath the plating (as we've seen in a few previous examples), or if it's just plain grubby. Regardless, I doubt there will be any great rush, with the $150 opening bid price (and $55 shipping to UK). :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232300781187


Indeed there wasn't. Like all the other examples currently (re)listed on eBay (see previous page) it went unsold first time around. However, when the US eBay seller re-listed this gold-tone 7A38-7000 a week ago, almost immediately after the above auction ended, he sensibly reduced the opening bid price to $99.99, for which it sold late last night.


April 27, 2017 at 4:44 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at April 24, 2017 at 5:44 AM

This is getting silly. Yesterday evening, those 5 eBay listings in the summary in my penultimate post, all of which remain unsold, were joined by yet another gold-tone 7A38-7000, listed by another German eBay seller. This one has a low opening bid price of only one Euro, but isn't the best of examples. The dial appears to show signs of moisture damage and the lume is degraded. It's also fitted with a non-original Seiko bracelet. The part number visible in the seller's 4th photo appears to be B1160 - the correct bracelet is a p/n B1170G. I'd suspect it belongs on a mid-80's ana-digi, but the part number isn't recognised in Seiko's database (with a 'G' suffix).


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232311353180


The above German eBay auction for a poor example of a gold-tone 7A38-7000, fitted with a non-original Seiko bracelet, ended a few moments ago selling for 33.30 Euros after 15 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232311353180


April 30, 2017 at 1:15 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at April 19, 2017 at 8:11 AM

It's not as if it really needed yet another example to prove the point. The gold-tone 7A38-7000 SAA008J is nowhere near as popular with collectors as it's stainless sibling - especially when stupidly over-priced and suffering from worn or corroded plating. :roll:

Well, here's one anyway. Listed yesterday evening by another deluded German eBay seller.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172631857332


No great surprise that German eBay listing for yet another over-priced gold-tone 7A38-7000 ended with it unsold. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172631857332


The seller re-listed it for another 10 days at the same ridiculous 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of 333 Euros ....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172651160266




But then ended the listing early, yesterday morning, because the item was allegedly lost or broken. :/

Seems it was the latter, because they re-listed again yesterday evening, as low-start auction, adding the word defekt into the title:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172658606642

The revised description now reads:


Seiko Quartz Chronograph 7A38-7000 A5

Seiko Quartz Uhrwerk 7A38A, 15 Jewels

aus den frühen 1980er Jahren

Äußere Teile Komplett in Gold gehalten, inneres Armband silberfarben. (Edelstahl)

Verschraubter Boden.

Der Zeitmesser ist defekt, ich wollte die Batterie erneuern, dabei entdeckte die Uhrmacherin, dass die Uhrwerkelektronik porös sei (was auch immer das heisst). Sie könne das nicht reparieren. Vielleicht können Sie trotzdem etwas damit anfangen, selbst reparieren, die Vergoldung lösen o.ä.

Uhr wurde gebraucht, daher normale Gebrauchsspuren, z.B. Goldene Beschichtung an den Rändern der Schließe leicht abgewetzt, kleinste Kratzer am Armband

Breite des Uhrengehäuses: 3,9 cm

Armbandlänge innen gemessen 19 cm

"water resistent" laut Angabe unter dem Gehäuse bis 30 meter

kann: Uhrzeit, Stoppuhr (umfangreiche Stoppeigenschaften), Datum und Wochentag anzeigen, Tachymeter.

- Alle 3 Drücker sind leichtgängig.

- Die Krone ebenfalls leichtgängig und exakt.

- Das gebürstete Gehäuse ist in prima Zustand,

Seht euch die Originalbilder an. Sie zeigen den tatsächlichen Zustand der Uhr ganz gut.

Insgesamt eine defekte aber gut erhaltene Seikouhr

Englische Gebrauchsanweisung ist vorhanden.


The relevant part of which Google translates as:

The timer is defective, I wanted to renew the battery, while the watchmaker discovered that the watch electronics was porous (whatever that means). She could not fix it. Maybe you can start doing something yourself ....


May 4, 2017 at 6:39 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above re-listed German eBay auction for a 'defektive' gold-tone 7A38-7000 ended yesterday evening, selling for a mere 35.50 Euros after 11 bids. :( A far cry from the seller's original 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of 333 Euros. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172658606642


May 14, 2017 at 6:49 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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It's not as if this thread really needed the inclusion of any more 'Bottom of the 7Axx barrel' junk watches. :roll:

There've already been more than enough tired examples listed in this thread. What the heck. I'm gonna post it anyway. :P

Remember that (corruption of an) old saying: One man's junk is another man's potentially rewarding restoration project. :|

This UK ebay seller appears to have such delusions about his 'head only' which he included in a job lot on Sunday evening. :lol:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192185954973



Any of these could be the basis of a fine gents watch. The Seiko Chronograph with movement Calibre 7A38A is probably a challenging but rewarding repair project.

Please examine the photographs carefully as these show the items offered and their condition and they form part of the description.

Please see my other items offered this week and I will combine postage for multiple purchases.


Plus, there's a possible added benefit - an 'instant collection' of PELEX watches !! :lol:


May 16, 2017 at 6:16 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at April 5, 2017 at 5:08 AM

This average worn condition (and certainly not rare) gold-tone 7A38-7000 with chronograph faults was listed yesterday by US eBay seller rbetts2345, with an over-optimistic Buy-it-Now price of $200. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282420455707

Studying the seller's last photo, there is rust staining on the movement backplate; '710' spacer and inside the watch case, near the 10 o'clock pusher and also evidence of a prior battery leak visible on the backplate. Probably one best avoided at any price.



Checking my watching page, I noticed US eBay seller rbetts2345 had ended his re-listing for that dodgy gold-tone 7A38-7000 yesterday, because there was an error in the listing. Presumably in the pricing. :P Hopefully that' s the last we'll see of it. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272657133251



May 17, 2017 at 4:17 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The UK eBay auction for that 'car boot sale junk' job lot, including a non-running 'head only' gold-tone 7A38-7000 ended yesterday evening selling for £21 after 7 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192185954973

May 20, 2017 at 4:35 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This well worn gold-tone 7A38-7000 fitted with a non-original replacement Seiko bracelet was listed yesterday evening by a German eBay seller with a Buy-it-Now price of 79 Euros. Compared to some other over-priced examples on eBay Germany (two of which still remain unsold), it might have seemed a bargain, but closer inspection of the dial in the seller's first photo indicates the watch has suffered from moisture ingress. If you scroll back up the page, you'll see another example in very similar condition, sold on eBay Germany at the end of April - as an auction (rather than a Buy-it-Now) for 33.30 Euros.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332241215467


Biete heute einen SEIKO CHRONOGRAPHEN HAU 80er Jahre VINTAGE 7A38 7000 Rarität! Technisch TOP!

Verkaufe nur, weil ein neues Uhrenprojekt ansteht!

Klasse SEIKO Klassiker von 1985. Alle Funktionen einwandfrei.

Die Uhr hat ein paar altersgerechte Gebrauchsspuren auf Band, Gehäuse, Zifferblatt. Das Glas ist in sehr gutem Zustand, siehe Fotos, das originale Band noch sehr lang.

Ein echter Vintage Klassiker mit dem hochwertigen Seiko 7A38 Werk. Das Werk wurde vor einigen Jahren überholt, leider gibt es hierfür keine Quittung. Drücker funktionieren alle butterweich, Datumsverstellung ohne Probleme. Sammlerstück.

Die hochauflösenden Fotos sprechen für sich, auf den hochauflösenden Bildern sind Staubkörnchen und Fussel nicht zu vermeiden.

Bitte die hochauflösenden Fotos genau ansehen, der Zustand ist genau zu sehen. Jeder hat ein anderes Empfinden für den Zustand einer Uhr, deshalb bitte auf die Fotos verlassen, hier wird nichts geschönt. Nahaufnahmen lassen jedes Staubkörnchen grösser erscheinen. Wasserdichtigkeitsprüfung nicht gemacht.

Die Fotos zeigen alle den originalen Artikel!

Versand voll versichert bis 500,00 Euro mit Hermes.

Keine Rücknahme, Garantie meinerseits da Privatverkauf, seht auf meine Bewertungen.

Viel Spass beim Bieten!


Regardless, it sold early this morning - not for the full 79 Euros Buy-it-Now asking price ....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332241215467


But as revealed by WatchCount.com's Look-Up tool, against a Best Offer, for a slightly lower 65 Euros.



May 29, 2017 at 9:24 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I'd hoped that might be the last we've seen of it - but it's back again. 

Last evening US eBay seller rbetts2345 re-listed his dodgy gold-tone 7A38-7000, with the Buy-it-Now increased to $280 ! 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272695708407


The photos above are new, the other 3 were carried over from the previous listing, so I haven't bothered to repost them.

The description looks the same (except this one isn't truncated) and still includes the phrase:

The sub dials on the right and bottom work. I don't know about the one on the left.

If you need reminding of the evidence of water damage to this watch, check out his previous listing photos.

Still one best avoided (at any cost) - especially with the latest price hike. 


June 1, 2017 at 5:21 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This unexceptional worn condition gold-tone 7A38-7000, with the usual amount of rubbing wear to the gold plating, was listed yesterday morning by an Italian eBay seller with a typically over-optimistic (for this model) Buy-it-Now price of 190 Euros.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232383692420



The seller, who is was a member of this forum, has a regular habit of screwing around with his listings, particularly the photos.

So I thought I'd leave 24 hours before posting anything - and true to form .....


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDetails&item=232383692420




The revised listing currently  looks like this:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm//232383692420



The original listing (that I saw yesterday) had 11 photos. The current version has only 9 photos. Here are the 12 that I've seen used:



Up for auction is this Seiko 7A38-7000 Big Size Gold Plated Quartz Chronograph from 1983. The 7A28/7A38/7A48 models by Seiko were the world's first analogue quartz chronographs and are still highly regarded as among the best and sturdiest quartz movements ever made.

This watch has been stripped down and serviced with Moebius synthetic oils. A new original caseback gasket, high quality Sternkreuz mineral crystal and battery have been fitted. The chrono pushers have been disassembled, cleaned and lubricated and work crisply with a well defined pressure point. The chronograph works properly and resets well.

The original bracelet fits wrists up to ca. 22 cm (with additional links supplied).

The case is in excellent condition, some light fading but no pitting of the gold plating along the edges, overall very good considering the age of the watch.

Dial, markers, tachy ring and hands are in excellent condition.

Perfect day/date change and quickset.

Not waterproof tested!

Please refer to the photos, as they are an integral part of the description. Any questions welcome.

Check out my other auctions. I have a large stock of Seiko vintage parts.

I ship worldwide and combine shipping.

ALL european bidders pay 12 Euros

ALL extra-european bidders pay 16 Euros


June 24, 2017 at 6:34 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This gold-tone 7A38-7000 fitted with a non-original replacement Seiko bracelet was listed yesterday evening by a German eBay seller. The bracelet appears to have suffered less rubbing wear to its gold plating, compared to the watch case (which is better than many). There's no clear shot of the case-back, so I can't accurately identify the bracelet, but I'd assume it's off a 1980's Seiko ana-digi. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272734441421



Top Seiko 7A38 das beste und weltweit erstes, analoges Quarzuhrwerk mit Chronograph. Das Werk ist aus dem vollen geschöpft und das Beste der Zeit. Die Uhr ist über 30 Jahre alt und hat nur wenig Tragespuren. Das Glas hat einige kleine Kratzer und sollte mal getauscht werden. Von Privat ohne Garantie und Rücknahme.

Vorm Versand wird die Batterie wieder eingesetzt, die haben wir vorm Jahr sicherheitshalber entnehmen lassen. Batterie wurde nach den Fotos eingesetzt und alle Zeiger laufen wie sie sollen. Uhrzeit und Chrono 1/10, gr. Sekunde und auch der Minutenzähler. Alle Drücker gehen knackig. Das Werk ist sauber und hat keine Macken oder Rost. Versende als DHL Paket gut verpackt und gepolstert.

Viel Erfolg beim Bieten.


June 26, 2017 at 3:59 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above German eBay auction for a gold-tone 7A38-7000, fitted with a non-original replacement bracelet, ended about 5 minutes ago, selling for 113 Euros after 16 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272734441421


July 2, 2017 at 2:27 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at June 24, 2017 at 6:34 AM

This unexceptional worn condition gold-tone 7A38-7000, with the usual amount of rubbing wear to the gold plating, was listed yesterday morning by an Italian eBay seller with a typically over-optimistic (for this model) Buy-it-Now price of 190 Euros.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232383692420


The seller, who is was a member of this forum, has a regular habit of screwing around with his listings, particularly the photos.

So I thought I'd leave 24 hours before posting anything - and true to form .....



Needless to say it went unsold, despite the over-ambitious Buy-it-Now price of that first listing having been reduced from 190 to 180 Euros. It was re-listed 3 times, with further price reductions and more shuffling of photos - with predictably the same outcome. :roll: At the weekend, in his latest re-listing, the would-be seller replaced three of the original photos with three new ones, shuffling the order of the images around, to ensure that these appeared as primary, second and third. It has to be said they certainly flattered the watch, compared to some of the original set (now removed), that probably gave a truer picture of the watch's typically worn condition.




It finally sold this morning for the reduced Buy-it-Now price of 159 Euros.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232409319972


July 17, 2017 at 8:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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