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Seiko7A38
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I thought I might start another topic, to run in parallel with our 'CRAZIEST' 7Axx price thread ....

to use to highlight examples of obviously opportunistic Buy-it-Now asking prices by eBay sellers.


I was prompted by the UK seller 'happydays359', who listed a rather average-looking example of a stainless 7A38-7190 overnight.


See: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330691138292

Rare Gents Vintage Seiko Quartz Chronograph 7A38-7190 Watch



 

NICE RARE & COLLECTABLE VINTAGE GENTS SEIKO QUARTZ CHRONOGRAPH. MODEL 7A38-7190. 1980'S MODEL?? STAINLESS STEEL CASE & ORIGINAL SEIKO STAINLESS STEEL BRACELET. IN GOOD WORKING ORDER. ALL PUSHERS WORK & FUNCTIONS/SETTINGS WORK FINE. WHITE DIAL, WITH THREE SUB DIALS FOR HOURS, MINUTES, SECONDS. DAY & DATE APERTURES AT 3 '0' CLOCK. THE DIAL IS IN NICE CLEAN CONDITION. CRYSTAL IN REASONABLY GOOD CONDITION FOR AGE WITH SOME SURFACE SCRATCHES. THE CASE & BRACELET HAVE SURFACE SCRATCHES ALSO. THERE ARE SOME SCRATCHES TO THE CASE BACK. THE BRACELET IS ON THE SMALL SIDE AND WILL FIT UP TO A 7 INCH WRIST MAXIMUM.

SELLING AT WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A FAIR VALUE BUT ALSO OPEN TO REASONABLE OFFERS. ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE E-MAIL ME. THANKS FOR LOOKING.


And (in the seller's uninformed opinion) the 'fair value' Buy-it-Now asking price ? £295.00 :lol:

February 22, 2012 at 4:34 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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By way of comparison, let me just give you these 2 examples.


This one (actually listed as a non-runner) on eBay in the UK, less than a month ago: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250981298411

 

GENTS STAINLESS STEEL SEIKO CHRONOGRAPH



GENTS SEIKO DAY DATE CHRONO 

For sale gents stainless steel quartz chrono model number 7A38-7190 

This watch is in good overall condition cosmetically but does not run so would need some attention. 

Sold as seen no returns on this item. Watch will be sent after cleared payment has been recieved. Uk bidders only.


.... which sold for a mere £56.67 (I was the losing bidder - had a last-minute punt at it, but couldn't be arsed to go any higher) :(


..... and this one, which not only is almost mint; complete with box, spare links and SAA053J tag, that I bought back in August 2010



.... but also came with a lightly worn 7T32-7F80 (also needing a new battery) - both for the combined price of £57.88 !! :D

You'll notice that there's also the original reciept (from Argos, Wrexham) for the 7A38-7190 - the price then a mere £125.00

So Yes - 7A38 prices may be creeping up gradually in response to demand, but for heaven's sake - let's keep a grip on reality. ;)

February 22, 2012 at 4:36 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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I note the eBay seller has since dropped their Buy-it-Now price from their original ridiculous £295 to a merely laughable £175. :roll:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDetails&_trksid=p4340.l2569&rt=nc&item=330691138292


Try another hundred, and you may be getting close. ;)

February 24, 2012 at 4:06 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Went unsold. Now re-listed as a normal 7-day auction, with an opening bid price of £79.99 - and I guess it may well sell at that price. ;)

See: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330695029995


Welcome to the REAL world. Oh Happy Days. :D

March 1, 2012 at 3:08 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Indeed that stainless 7A38-7190 sold for £82 yesterday evening, after only two bids. ;)


Funnily enough, there was another 7A38-7190, whose auction ended an hour or so later:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330693480797

mens vintage seiko chronograph watch 7A38-7190




It didn't appear to be in such good condition; had lost it's original bracelet and was fitted with a leather strap.

The seller had started the bidding at 99 pence. Yet that one, by comparison, made £87 after 21 bids - the listing received 676 views.


Seems that it is better, on some occasions, to let the market decide the selling price, rather than by setting a high opening bid. :)


March 8, 2012 at 8:45 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seikotik
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I'm still trying to figure out the eBay.  The inconsistencies with the page views as well as the final bids for similar items I think may be attributed to people who have saved certain sellers as "favorites"?  So they check them more often?

Obviously, the better the descriptive heading, etc. the more searchable you are.  But my hypothesis assumes two similar watches with equal descriptions, but listed at different times and by different people.

March 8, 2012 at 2:31 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Arpie
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Wa-ha-ha :D

Has anybody seen this auction?


http://www.ebay.it/itm/300678302554

SEIKO CHRONOGRAPH TACHYMETER UOMO + zenith donna


 

Nice price for it, isn`t it? :)

 

I really like the beautiful nail decoration which I hope comes with the watch :P:D

March 16, 2012 at 10:42 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Arpad.

That one has been (re)listed for literally months - since late September, last year.

I thought everybody else would have seen it - that's why I didn't bother mentioning it. :roll:

At least she has bought the asking price down a bit now - it was 350 Euros before !! :lol:

I did message the seller a while back, and sent her links to two ended eBay auctions, too .... all to no avail.

I did naturally compliment her on her nails. ;)

March 16, 2012 at 12:32 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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What ?  Nobody prepared to risk making a comment on the 7A38-7029 listed yesterday ? 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350547037376

VINTAGE SEIKO 7A38-7029 CHRONOGRAPH WRISTWATCH WITH ORIGINAL BAND



 

BRAND: SEIKO.

MOVEMENT: SEIKO QUARTZ MOVEMENT CALIBER 7A38 WITH QUICK SET DAY-DATE AND CHRONOGRAPH FEATURES.

CASE: STAINLESS STEEL . APPROX 38MM IN DIAMETER EXCLUDING THE CROWN. 

CROWN: UNSIGNED ORIGINAL. 

BRACELET: ORIGINAL STAINLESS STEEL SEIKO BRACELET. 

DIAL: ORIGINAL GREY FINISH.

 

COMMENTS: VERY NICE AND CLEAN SEIKO 7A38-7029 CHRONOGRAPH WATCH. THE WATCH KEEPS PERFECT TIME, THE QUICK SET DAY-DATE WORKS FINE, THE CHRONOGRAPH STILL FUNCTIONS WHEN I PRESS BUTTONS BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO OPERATE IT. SHOWS MINOR HAIRSCRATCHES ON THE UNPOLISHED CASE AND BRACELET. THE CRYSTAL HAS COUPLE OF TINY HAIRSCRATCHES ON THE SURFACE. THE WATCH FITS UP TO AN 7 1/2 INCHES WRIST.

 

VINTAGE WATCH IS NOT RECOMMENED USING WITH WATER UNLESS SAID SO.


The Buy-it-Now asking price is $495 (approx. £312.42). The seller has listed it for 30 days, so he's obviously ready for a long haul.

March 17, 2012 at 1:24 PM Flag Quote & Reply

jair1970
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That's a businessman right there!

A raft of other Seikos all up at daft prices.  Plus loads of others watches that I have no knowledge of.  There must be a whole lot of mug money in the world keeping these 'traders' in business.

Who buys 'em?

March 17, 2012 at 2:28 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Who buys 'em?

Mug punters, James. :roll:

I guarantee you that watch will sell. Maybe not for the current $495 asking price - but it will sell ....

Probably to someone who hasn't done his homework (the highest price I have on record, for one of these - well actually it was a stainlesss 7A38-7020, rather than a -7029, is 235.56 Euros on eBay Germany, last November). Although relatively common, they're one of the most sought-after 7A38s. Maybe someone looking to replace that long-lost watch from 25 years ago is still desperately searching for 'the one'. Just browse some of the other major forums, and see how many WTB's you'll find posted over the years.

Here was the most recent I saw on WUS: http://forums.watchuseek.com/f89/wtb-seiko-7a38-7029-a-636273.html


Regarding this particular example, it's not 'the best'. The watch case may still have its vulnerable razor-sharp edges, but I'd be a little suspicious* because the bezel isn't quite perfectly aligned to the case. Look at the SEIKO logo - the off-white paint is lifting, and the lume on the hands is slightly discoloured - both of which point to possible previous moisture ingress or maybe even battery leakage.


*49Ronnie has knocked out a couple of less-than-perfect partial 7A38-7029 sample cases in the last couple of months. I wonder ....



March 17, 2012 at 2:48 PM Flag Quote & Reply

7ARCool
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The "SEIKO" on the dial is gold plated metal, found on many of the 7Axx's we cherish, they are prone to damage from water ingress or battery acid leakage. Could be replaced but quite fiddly I can imagine.

To be honest, I decided to give the badly acid damaged 7A38-7080 listed in the US recently a miss for that exact reason, The dial was ok apart from the "SEIKO" logo which was going green,LOL.

A little (LOT) off topic (Paul feel free to edit if you wish). I just spotted this Seiko 120879054326, the buyer would need use of it to work out his debts after purchase, LOL ! :lol:

March 17, 2012 at 3:17 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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The "SEIKO" on the dial is gold plated metal, found on many of the 7Axx's we cherish ....

Excuse my correcting you, Chris, but I think I know my 7A38s a little better. Trust me, I have three 7A38-7029's. It's off-white. ;)


March 17, 2012 at 3:24 PM Flag Quote & Reply

7ARCool
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No worries Paul, I stand corrected.

I just noticed the post costs for the calculator watch!   :lol:

March 17, 2012 at 3:31 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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A little (LOT) off topic (Paul feel free to edit if you wish).

I just spotted this Seiko 120879054326, the buyer would need use of it to work out his debts after purchase, LOL !

I'll allow you that one   Chris - a clever play on words. 

March 17, 2012 at 3:32 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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.... both of which point to possible previous moisture ingress or maybe even battery leakage.


Nope - looks pretty clean inside. 

On Mar-17-12 at 14:51:26 PDT, seller added the following information:



 

Wrong sized battery - #371 instead of a #394 fitted, but that's all that's immediately obvious.

March 17, 2012 at 6:37 PM Flag Quote & Reply

JSS
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Here's another good one.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160759513703

 

 

£189.34 for a non runner.  Still, if anyone needs a bezel :D

March 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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John.

I'm not sure if your post belongs here, or would have been better added to James'  'The lower end & bottom of the 7Axx barrel' thread.

But either way, I hate to tell you .... this really old news ! :lol:

Vanman2USA has been periodically relisting that water-damaged 7A38-7070, in rotation with a 7A38-7069 without bracelet; dog-eared looking 7A38-7180 and a WAY over-priced gold-tone 7A38-7280 (which actually works) - for literally YEARS on end !

Thing about 'Vanman' is he never seems to get the message, and keeps on re-listing them at the same ridiculous prices. :roll:


He (like Firefly) is a standing joke on SCWF. Try running a search on there on Vanman (without the '2USA'). ;)

Here's the most recent thread: http://www.thewatchsite.com/index.php/topic,29189.msg177803.html


Edit: two of the others mentioned above come up in a world-wide search on 'Seiko 7A38':

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160748925256     http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160759552568

I guess I've just got used to ignoring them, after seeing them come up so many times. :D

March 19, 2012 at 2:51 AM Flag Quote & Reply

JSS
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Oops!  Yes, he has been at it a while hasn't he?  To be honest, I used to visit forums just to learn about the watches and get tips on watch repairing.  It's only recently since I have been making a few purchases that I have taken an interest in eBay wheeler dealers.  Still got a lot to learn.

March 19, 2012 at 8:36 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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I guarantee you that watch will sell. Maybe not for the current $495 asking price - but it will sell ....


Indeed that 7A38-7029 did sell, as I predicted - and sold for a very strong $390.00 (approx: £245.41) earlier today.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350547037376

March 20, 2012 at 8:02 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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