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Hi all - this is my first post so please be gentle with me!

I enquired about this 7A28-7000 earlier tonight


http://www.ebay.com/itm/150770151631


It looks pretty clean to me on the face of it (literally) but when I asked the seller in 3 different ways if the watch was actually working he turned into a politician and simply would not answer 'yes' or 'no'.

I have concluded he has avoided stating the simple fact that the watch is not working and he can't identify if it's the battery or not because he can't get the back off (and has made a fine mess of it in the process of trying).

In the meantime I have no idea whether to bid at all in view of his economy with the truth!

March 1, 2012 at 10:33 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Edit: I've just realised that this is the same watch Jeff Resnick offered in the 'January Sale', being the one on the right, now relisted for bids.


March 1, 2012 at 10:50 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Well spotted, Paul !  - and a slightly belated  to the fray.


That is indeed one of the three 7A28-7000's originally offered by Jeff Resnick in this FS post on SCWF (included in Auction News #1):

http://www.thewatchsite.com/index.php/topic,27463.msg164338.html




Here's two of the photos from the current eBay listing showing the same butchered case-back in close-up. 




As you correctly state, it would appear to be the one on the right of the original group of three.


I don't think Jeff is being unduly dishonest by withholding answers of simply 'Yes' or 'No', if indeed he can't get the case-back off.

A factual reply would probably be - No it's obviously not working (at present). His eBay listing description is quite candid and open:


Appears to be NOS condition, no scratches on case, crystal or bracelet

Original bracelet

But I can't remove the back (it's on very tight) so I am unable to test it with a new battery

Stickers still on back

Shows no wear aside from the caseback (shows signs of trying to remove caseback)


The gamble is, of course, what is the condition of the old run-down battery which has been presumably left inside for nearly 29 years, and has it done any damage to the movement ? It may even be rusting of the insides of the watch which has caused the case-back to be seized on so tight. In my own experience, battery acid fumes / leakage doesn't always manifest itself in a deterioration of the dial.


Pity Jeff Resnick hasn't heard about the 'aerosol freezer' trick which I use for dealing with case-backs that are screwed on murder tight.

See: http://www.seiko7a38.com/apps/forums/topics/show/7307143-my-literally-newest-incoming-seiko-7a38-painfully-slow-reveal

Might have saved him ruining an otherwise mint case-back. :roll:

March 2, 2012 at 1:47 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Actually, Paul - at least JR seems to have 'done the decent thing', in starting off the bidding at a mere $0.99 cents.

I noticed it was already bid to over $400 within the first 24 hours, so a few people must be prepared to take the gamble.


Compare his listing say to this other N.O.S. example, which ended unsold yesterday evening:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320857634316

Seiko 7a28-7000 NOS BLACK CHRONOGRAPH "ALIEN" BY GIUGIARO



.... thankfully with a pristine case-back, but a rather optimistic opening bid price of $995.00 (approx. £627.50) ! 


I had to chuckle to myself about the eBay seller's (somewhat inapt, as it happens) choice of user ID: hack_watch 

March 4, 2012 at 4:32 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Jeff Resnick's 7A28-7000 Aliens with the stuck case-back sold on eBay last night for $867.60 (approx. £552.44) after 14 bids. 

Jumping by $350 in the last 5-second snipe-fest. 

See: http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p4340.l2565&rt=nc&item=150770151631

I bet Jeff was pleased with that, especially after there were no takers in response to his reduced SCWF FS advert price of $625.

Hope the buyer has more success getting the case-back off, and that he doesn't find anything black and slimey inside. 

March 8, 2012 at 10:32 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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The third of JR's Aliens trio (from the original SCWF FS advert) finally sold for $709 (approx. £447.49) last night after 18 bids.

See: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150775647564 - in fact, not too far shy of the $725 he was previously asking on SCWF:

http://www.thewatchsite.com/index.php/topic,27463.msg164338.html (it was the one on the left, with the paper sticker).


In the meantime, NOS black Aliens continue to crawl out of the woodwork (or should I say from the ducting on Nostromo).

Here's yet another one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150777916975 - with a Buy-it-Now tag of $1400 (approx. £883.62). 

Very rare Seiko 7A28-7000 Alien Black in new condition with box and tag!

If you'll pardon the expression - Rare my arse ! :roll:

March 18, 2012 at 7:04 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at March 4, 2012 at 4:32 AM

Actually, Paul - at least JR seems to have 'done the decent thing', in starting off the bidding at a mere $0.99 cents.

I noticed it was already bid to over $400 within the first 24 hours, so a few people must be prepared to take the gamble.


Compare his listing say to this other N.O.S. example, which ended unsold yesterday evening:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320857634316

Seiko 7a28-7000 NOS BLACK CHRONOGRAPH "ALIEN" BY GIUGIARO



.... thankfully with a pristine case-back, but a rather optimistic opening bid price of $995.00 (approx. £627.50) ! 


I had to chuckle to myself about the eBay seller's (somewhat inapt, as it happens) choice of user ID: hack_watch 


I don't want to drag this thread on forever, because if you follow Seiko 7Axx's on eBay even remotely closely, by now, like me, you'll have come to realize that black 7A28-7000 'Aliens' are anything but rare. Yet would-be sellers continue to ask prices bordering on the ridiculous for NOS examples. There's currently one on eBay in Italy with a Buy-it-Now price of 1500 Euros (approx. £1200). :roll:


No, why I thought I'd give the thread one last bump is that hack_watch's example was relisted yet again and finally sold yesterday. :)

See: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320901917899

This time, he started the bidding at a more sensible $495. Over the 10-day listing it got only 5 bids, making $610 (approx. £383). ;)

May 17, 2012 at 8:01 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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I don't want to drag this thread on forever ....

No, why I thought I'd give the thread one last bump ....


O.K. - I know what I wrote in the preceding post, but .... :P

Listed on Yahoo Japan auctions earlier today, by one of the regular eBay / Yahoo Japan re-sellers 'yamanoteeede2006' was this:


http://page18.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w74952640

セイコー・ジウジアーロ・7A28・エイリアン・デッドストック





The serial number 342102 matches. ;)

Over the 10-day listing it got only 5 bids, making $610 (approx. £383).


The would-be re-seller 'yamanoteeede2006' has set an optimistic opening bid price of ¥70,000 Yen (equivalent to $887.24 or £571). 

It'll be interesting to see if he profits (on his comparatively cheap eBay purchase price) on this particular 'Coals to Newcastle' exercise, bearing in mind how relatively common Aliens and Bishops (albeit the JDM variants) appear to be in Japan.

May 30, 2012 at 11:13 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Quick footnote to this one. You all know how I love a little online detective work 8) ....


Well, for what it's worth, I finally managed to track down the eBay (buying) ID of this Yahoo Japan re-seller 'yamanoteeede2006' ....


It's 'Speedmaster2005-4' and shows in abbreviated form as a***m (900). 


He seems to know his onions, too. That 7A28-7000 did sell for his 70,000 Yen asking price - less than a week after he listed it !

June 21, 2012 at 7:49 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This post probably equally deserves to be added to the eBay Craziest Prices thread .... :roll:

But seeing as the original discussion was about Jeff Resnick's brace of NOS 7A28-7000 Black Aliens, I thought I'd put it here. :P


Seems Jeff has unearthed yet another example of these extremely rare (not) watches:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150880454859

Seiko 7A28-7009 NOS condition "Alien" watch



 

Seiko 7A28-7009 NOS condition

You won't find another in this condition

Running fine. Includes boxes, manual and warranty

TZ: 98-99%

No Trades. I haven't timed it.

I'm not the original owner

Great watch to collect and wear!


Yours for a mere $1299.95 (approx. £825.77) +$59.95 shipping on top !! 


I suppose we should take into consideration that this one is actually running, unlike some of his previous offerings, and that someome presumably not Jeff, has managed to replace the battery at some point, without butchering the case-back on this occasion. 

August 17, 2012 at 6:28 AM Flag Quote & Reply

nova
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Maybe it was just a mistake with the case opener order ;)

And he ordered an opener case


August 17, 2012 at 7:08 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Yours for a mere $1299.95 (approx. £825.77) +$59.95 shipping on top !! 


Thankfully, common sense prevailed, and it went unsold at that price. 

Re-listed: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150886524889 - now reduced to 'only' $1099.95 (approx. £692.31) + the same $59.95 shipping.

Re-listed: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150891194092 further reduced to $999.95 (approx. £632.40), but postage now up to $69.95

August 24, 2012 at 8:26 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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That 7A28-7009 Aliens finally sold earlier today, for $919 (approx. £578.11) - still big money, for what in truth is not that rare a 7Axx. 

September 6, 2012 at 3:53 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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http://watchlim.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/seiko-rare-vintage-sport-100-quartz.html

Worth checking out, possibly a fair deal considering condition.

February 19, 2013 at 5:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Given the title of this topic, it hardly seemed fair to add on a post about another eBay auction for a 7A28 Aliens which just ended.

But seeing as the majority of the nicer examples that we've commented on, on this forum, are already included in this thread ....

Rather than start another seperate 'Aliens' topic I'd thought I'd mention it here. Because this one certainly does deserve a mention.

Not that I'm a particulary big fan of the 'Aliens' (nor 7A28's in general), but this was a rather nice looking example; almost pristine ....

apart from a scratch on the edge of case-back - a JDM 'Speedmaster' 7A28-7000 - listed by an Austrian seller:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290873831201

SEIKO SPEEDMASTER "ALIEN" 7A28-7000




Hier eine Seiko Speedmaster,bekannt aus dem Film "Alien" mit Sigourney Weaver.ACHTUNG!! Die Uhr ist ungetragen,

sie verbrachte die letzten 30 Jahre im Kasten, es ist am Deckel noch die blaue Schutzfolie stellenweise dran.Die Uhr weist keinerlei Tragespuren auf,sie ist mehr oder minder neu!!Jetzt der Haken an der Sache;ein Service ist durch die lange Zeit wo sie nicht getragen wurde, unbedingt erforderlich!! Im jetzigen Zustand zeigt der rechte und linke Register Funktion und der große Sekundenzeiger zuckt,ich habe festgestellt dass sich nach Wärmeeinwirkung auch der dieser "normal" bewegt.Bei dem Werk handelt es sich um das 7A28,die Uhr wurde von Giorgio Giugiaro designt,dem gutem Herren haben wir den VW Golf 1, den DeLorean und Lotus Esprit, um wenige zu nennen,zu verdanken.Leider gibt es die originale Box nicht mehr,kommt jedoch in einer neutralen geliefert.

Ich möchte die so weitergeben wie sie ist, habe mit den Uhrmachern in meiner Heimat keine guten Erfahrungen,hoffe es findet sich ein Liebhaber der diesem sammelwürdigem Stück neues Leben einhaucht, denn in diesem optischen Zustand ist diese Uhr ziemlich selten,siehe Fotos.

Stehe für etwaige Fragen gerne zur Verfügung.


Bidding ended at 516.00 Euros (approx. £448) after 48 bids. Much of the running was made by a low feedback bidder a***s (2).



The auction received 483 views over the 10-day listing period.


March 14, 2013 at 3:40 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Not that these do a lot for me personally, but I'm surprised no-one has grabbed this NOS JDM 7A28-7000 Aliens already. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130882812588

April 4, 2013 at 12:13 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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And Gone ! Not surprisingly - other than it took so long for someone to hit the button.

April 4, 2013 at 1:02 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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I thought that was too good to be true. :/ It was as it turns out. :roll:

Looks like the seller reneged on that give-away-price Buy-it-Now sale @ $299. I bet somebody out there is upset. :mad:

It's back, re-listed as a 7-day auction with an opening bid price of $399: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130883033302


April 5, 2013 at 7:58 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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After a couple of days with everybody 'sitting on their hands' and no bids made, the auction was converted once again to a Buy-it-Now:

April 8, 2013 at 3:09 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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It's back once again, this time with an opening bid of $399, or Buy-it-Now of $500. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130887101929


April 10, 2013 at 2:19 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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