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I didn't spot it yesterday, but the same US eBay seller watchaddict412 who'd listed that NOS Yema Spationaute III, was also listing a NOS N81W63 - probably the blingiest model in the N8 range, with a risible 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $500. Once again, it was being offered through eBay's GSP program which added to the cost. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132499752859

                                         


YEMA Paris Gold Plated Split Second Chronograph. The watch is running great. There is a little wear to the gold plating in the back from the watch stand. Take a close look at the pictures and ask any questions before purchasing. Thanks for looking.


I made him a considerably lower offer, which he accepted this morning.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132499752859

February 13, 2018 at 7:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The same US eBay seller watchaddict412 subsequently listed another blingy Yema N81W63 a couple of days ago. This one's fitted with the optional alternative 'Genuine Reptile' dark brown lizard Yema strap. It's also described as 'NOS', but appears from the corrosion evident on the buckle to have suffered from being stored somewhere damp. Like the previous example, it's also speculatively well over-priced @ $475 - plus the addition of nearly $160 in eBay GSP charges. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132507258591

                                                            


YEMA Paris Gold Plated Split Second Chronograph. The watch is running great. There is a little wear to the gold plating in the back and the buckle has some spotting. Take a close look at the pictures and ask any questions before purchasing.

Thanks for looking.


Earlier today, he listed another Yema N81W63, with the alternate Blue and Silver dial, which I've always personally thought was rather more tasteful and refined, if only in a sort of  Louis Quinze style. This one's slightly cheaper, but still well over-priced @ $425, plus the inevitable eBay GSP charges of $145 on top. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132509215249

                                                            



YEMA Paris Gold Plated Split Second Chronograph. The watch is running great. There is a little wear to the gold plating in the back and the buckle has some spotting. Take a close look at the pictures and ask any questions before purchasing.

Thanks for looking.


There's no photo of the buckle included in the listing and the description appears to be a verbatim copy and paste of the previous. This one also includes a poor photocopy of the owner's instruction manual, which isn't mentioned.


February 18, 2018 at 9:31 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Earlier this week, the same US eBay seller watchaddict412 had also listed a 'NOS' Yema N8 Flygraf. Typically over-priced @ $575 plus potentially another $190 in eBay GSP charges payable on top. It was marred by some nasty tool-inflicted scratches on the case-back. Note also the slight mis-match of the green lume colours of the dial and hands.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132507254568

                                                            


Yema Flygraf Split Second Chronograph Vintage Quartz Watch. The watch is from a closed authorized dealer and is new old stock. The band and watch are unworn. The Case back has scratches from battery replacements. Take a close look at the pictures and ask any questions before purchasing.

Thanks for looking.


That listing ended early this morning, sold not for the $575 Buy-it-Now price ....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132507254568


But as revealed by WatchCount.com's look up tool, for a best offer of $420.




As confirmed by the eBay Offer / Purchase History:



Meanwhile, in the early hours of this morning, he'd listed another 'NOS' Yema N8 Flygraf. This one also appears to be suffering from mis-matched lume colours. It's also had the strap removed (for unexplained reasons), but fortunately the two pin and tube retaining bars are still present. This one's priced slightly cheaper @ $525 (still ludicrously high), plus the inevitable eBay GSP charges of $175 on top. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132509177473

                                                          



Yema Flygraf Split Second Chronograph Vintage Quartz Watch. The watch is from a now closed authorized dealer. The band needs put back on but has both original springbars. The Case back has very minor surface scratches. Take a close look at the pictures and ask any questions before purchasing. Thanks for looking.


I did make a low-ish offer on the first one.  Must keep reciting my mantra.

I really didn't don't need another Yema N8 Flygraf ....


February 18, 2018 at 10:41 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Both those two most recent eBay listings for Yema N81W63's, by US seller watchaddict412 ended, almost simultaneously, about an hour ago.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132507258591



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132509215249



As revealed by WatchCount.com's Look-up tool, they both sold for $325 apiece:



As shown by their eBay Offer Histories, both were purchased by the same buyer.


http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item=132507258591



http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item=132509215249

February 18, 2018 at 1:29 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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As no doubt some of you will have already noticed, in the early hours of this morning, US eBay seller watchaddict412 listed another 6 'NOS' Yema N8's. :o They include 2 more Spationaute III's, a N8 Flygraf and 3 more dressy N81W63's - one of each of the same three variants he had listed previously.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132512611652



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132512655595



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132512608172



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132512514890



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132512636344



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132512605896


As before, they are all available to international buyers through eBay's GSP programme. I'm not going to bother adding the 'footers' as a did previously, (showing the additional GSP charges), but you can reckon on it adding at least 20% to the price. Presuming you were like me, in the UK, that ranges from $230 extra on top for a Spationaute III down to $145 on the blue / silver dialed N81W63.


In terms of his 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now asking prices, there are also increases:

The Spationaute III's are up by $25 from the previous $699.95 to $725.

The N8 Flygraf is up $75 from the previous $575 (and $525) to $650.

The N81W63 on Lizard strap is up $20 from the previous $475 to $495.


Neither am I going to bother uploading the photos from these 6 listings - mostly in the interests of page loading times - and the fact that I can't honestly be arsed. They're new as far as I've quickly glanced through them, but mostly very similar to his previous efforts. One thing I would say, is that you are considering making an offer on any of them: study the photos carefully - particularly of the case-backs. Despite having had plenty of practice by now, the seller and his business partner (read: incompetent accomplice), still appear to be completely incapable of unscrewing a Yema case-back without ruining it with slipped tool marks.


Nor am I going to bother posting the seller's descriptions. They appear to be almost direct copies of his previous - probably by virtue of his having cloned the previous ended listings (hence the same typo's). But again I'd say read them carefully. Here's an interesting little snippet I picked up from the second Spationaute III listing:


The watch has some minor scratches to the case-back from battery replacements. It currently needs a new battery.


Excuse me !! :o He's asking $725 for a quartz watch and it needs a new battery ??

That little giveaway tells me he couldn't get that particular case-back undone. :lol::P


February 21, 2018 at 3:07 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Much to my amusement, :lol: I notice US eBay seller watchaddict412 has already reduced his 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now prices on most of that latest batch of N8's. 

The Spationaute III's are down from $725 to $650 and $625 and the Flygraf from $650 to $525.




Two of the N81W63's have been similarly reduced, both currently down to 'only' $399.99, but the blue / silver dialed one is unchanged, still priced @ $425, which is a little strange, given the damage to the case-back and cabouchon crown (and the fact he sold the previous one in almost pristine condition for $325). :roll:



February 24, 2018 at 7:24 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I've just noticed that this morning, US eBay seller watchaddict412 has further reduced the Buy-it-Now price of both Yema Spationaute III's to 'only' $599. :roll:



February 26, 2018 at 1:04 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Checking my eBay watching page, I noticed that one of those two 'NOS' Yema Spationaute III's listed by US eBay seller watchaddict412 finally sold yesterday evening. Not for the further reduced Buy-it-Now price of $550 ....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132512611652



But as revealed by WatchCount.com's Look-up tool, against an an offer of $480:



As confirmed by the eBay Offer / Purchase History:



I suspect the two slightly higher expired offers were counter-offers by the seller.


March 3, 2018 at 2:14 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This used Yema Spationaute III was listed this afternoon by a Zero-Feedback French eBay seller, as a 10-day auction with an opening bid price of 120 Euros (but with a reserve set). The strap fitted isn't original (looks like a ZRC) and the case-back has some nasty tool-inflicted scratches on it. Academic really, unless you're in France, because it looks like the seller is blocking bids à l'étranger. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142709618742


Vend cette montre dans l'état fond de boite légèrement rayé, boitier non abîme, montre fonctionne parfaitement, ainsi que le chrono, contrôle d’étanchéité a revoir !


March 3, 2018 at 2:44 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Possibly inspired by the US eBay seller's asking prices, another French eBay seller listed this NOS Yema N8 Flygraf this morning, with a somewhat optimistic opening bid price of 290 Euros. The watch looks new enough, but for that kind of money, I'd expect him to have uploaded a photo showing a pristine case-back. According to the description, more photos are available upon request. There is a small 'gotcher' - in that the seller and the watch aren't actually in mainland France. He gives the item location as Saint Leu, Reunion. Réunion is a small French island colony in the Indian Ocean, east of Madagascar. So the postage (which isn't shown either) might be a tad expensive. :/


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142709347154


Vends Yema flygraf neuve (encore dans la boite) en parfait état de marche.

D'autres photos sur demande.


March 3, 2018 at 3:10 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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And last but not least (for now) ....


This 38mm 'reduced' Yema Spationaute III (model # N80A696) was listed in the early hours of this morning (UK time), by an Australian eBay seller with an opening bid price of $185 Au. It's fitted with a slightly unusual perforated 'double jonc' strap - not an original Yema fitment, but it suits the watch well. The case-back is well worn, with the engravings barely legible in some of the photos. International postage (to UK) of $ 55Au is a bit prohibitive.


If the wrist shot, which is the seller's primary image, looks vaguely familiar, you'll find it at the top of page 72 of the WRUW thread. The Australian seller is forum member Steve7A.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263528667999


Vintage Yema Spationaute 3 , model 2-270 ARAGATZ space mission France, a rare opportunity ,very few of these come up on ebay.

This is powered by the famous Seiko 15 Jewel quartz analogue 7A38 movement (worlds first quartz analogue movement) rebranded Shimauchi (ltd V906) for this Yema 111 Spationaute (made in France) which is the slightly reduced version of its bigger brother and harder to find making it a little more desirable imho.

The watch face measures 39mm across not including the crown/pushers. Water resistant to 10 ATM untested. Rotating bezel with screw down crown.

There is plenty of good information on the net about this watch and the history of the Yema Spationaute 3

Non original band, the glass is clear and clean with no scratches. The bezel shows fine scratches consistent with normal wear. There are some deeper scratches on the back cover along with normal wear that shows this watch is well worn. The large second chronograph hand can be hesitant sometimes to start if not used for a long period? I found this after taking the watch from storage but could not reproduce it once i had used the chronograph several times otherwise all the functions are working as they should. Affordable and very collectable watch!

Postage will be via express post , within Australia only. EMS express international postage signature with real time tracking. Thanks for looking.

For more information on this watch please see link below.

https://sites.google.com/site/yemaniasaga/saga-spationaute


Thanks for the plug (not) Steve. 

PS - You might want to correct a couple of points in your description. :P


March 3, 2018 at 3:53 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Meanwhile overnight, US eBay seller watchaddict412 listed a couple more 'NOS' Yema N8's - another Spationaute III and another N81W63 on the lizard strap. Odd really, because he's still got one of each unsold from the previous batch of listings. Buy-it-Now prices are down slightly on the previous, but still way beyond reasonable @ $535 and $325. As before, he's offering them through eBay's GSP programme, which adds 'a few more bucks' onto the price. :roll:


Similarly, I can't be arsed to upload the photos. But if you're contemplating making an offer, I strongly suggest you study the photos and description. The N81W63 has a graunch on one lug and both watches are suffering from scratched case-backs, which I've become accustomed to seeing from this incompetent pair.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132525682987


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132525690079

March 4, 2018 at 4:31 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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In comparison to some of the current over-priced offerings, here's a really cheap Yema N8 I've just spotted. :P Yours for a mere €1 Euro (not !). :lol: It was listed on LeBonCoin.fr a couple of days ago. It's another 38mm 'reduced' Spationaute III (model N80A696), fitted with a non-original bracelet. I say 'non-original', because although I've seen a few like this before*, I don't believe the bracelet was factory fitted by C.G.H.; more likely an option offered by one of their French distributors.




http://www.leboncoin.fr/montres_bijoux/1393700730.htm

Montre Yema spationaute 3



The French seller's description reads:


Superbe montre ..yema spationaute 3 ...proche du neuf ....boîte et surboite ...faire offre e raisonnable....


Problem is, I suspect that the French seller's idea of what constitutes a 'reasonable' offer and mine are probably poles apart. :roll:


*Check out my post halfway down the first page of this thread. Same bracelet. ;)


March 4, 2018 at 5:21 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Checking my eBay watching page, I noticed that US eBay seller watchaddict412 had ended one of his listings for a Spationaute III a couple of days ago, because of an alleged error in the listing. Presumably the error was in his over-ambitious pricing, but then again it could have been sold off eBay via the 'back door' - something he claimed (in correspondence with me) he never did. Yeah right. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132512655595



March 6, 2018 at 11:38 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This Yema Spationaute III, fitted with a NATO strap, was listed by a French eBay seller encherexpert_paris16 (of more anon) yesterday lunchtime with an absolutely ludicrous pie-in-the-sky Buy-it-Now price of 679.90 Euros ! 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401503063248



The seller 'EncherExpert' is a store (in fact they have 3 outlets in Paris) - they're obviously trying hard to be a better class of 'We sell your stuff on eBay' - and no doubt they charge their customers accordingly for the privilege.


http://www.encherexpert.fr/



Enchere Expert translates as 'Auction Expert', but frankly I'm not impressed. 


Particularly initially when I tried to click on their 'clickable' thumbnail images embedded in the eBay listing description to find nothing happened. :roll: To get the full-sized (1000x750 pixel) images I've uploaded in this post, I had to resort to interrogating HTML FFS !! :mad:

Their use of a girl's skinny arm for the wrist shot left me under-whelmed. 


How about their measurements ? 

42.92mm indicated, stated as 42mm, not 43mm - oh and the classic thickness measurement, including 2 layers of the NATO strap !! :lol:


But what clinched it for me was how they'd obscured the Yema model number N80P76 on the case-back, instead of the serial number 4-596. :roll:

What a bunch of incompetents ! 


Oh Yes and if you search on their site, you'll find this ....


http://www.encherexpert.com/bijoux-et-montres/horlogerie/203679.html



So that's 80 Euros extra they charge for listing it on eBay !! :o


March 6, 2018 at 11:46 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Since mid-week, I've fallen behind slightly with updates to this thread, so with the next couple of posts I'll endeavour to catch up. On Wednesday, another French eBay seller antikpratik24200 listed a supposedly 'NOS' Yema Spationaute III and N8 Flygraf which, given their apparently less than perfect condition, with typically over-optimistic Buy-it-Now prices of 500 Euros and 290 Euros respectively.


The Spationaute III suffered from badly yellowed lume on both the bezel and dial batons and the 12 o'clock side of the once navy blue shark strap was badly faded.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132529778943



Rare neuve de stock Montre yema à quartz MODÈLE Spationaute III

Parfait état. Sans pile.


The markings on the inner silver part of the Flygraf's slide rule bezel are truncated - I suspect rubbed away by someone polishing the crystal in situ (like my own first example). Again, the once black 12 o'clock side of the leather strap is badly faded. The case-back has one particularly nasty deep gouge, inflicted by a slipped tool. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132529858403


Ancienne montre neuve de stock 

Chronographe à quartz MODÈLE Yema Flygraf 

Rate. Diamètre 43mms.


Less than perfect or not, the Spationaute III sold on Thursday evening - not for the 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of 500 Euros ....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132529778943


But as revealed by WatchCount.com's Look-up tool for an offer of 350 Euros:




At the time of writing, the N8 Flygraf remains unsold.


March 10, 2018 at 7:53 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The other French eBay seller benjamin3912, who'd listed his NOS N8 Flygraf as a 5-day auction, with the same opening bid price of 290 Euros, subsequently made a number of revisions to his listing.



These included changing the item location (from Réunion to Mainland France) and adding UK as a 'will ship to' destination (but no postage cost). He also added 3 more photos, including 2 of a typically tool-scratched case-back. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142709347154


The auction ended on Thursday morning, selling for the opening bid price:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142709347154

March 10, 2018 at 10:55 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I'd seen Steve had an opening bid of $185Au on his 38mm 'reduced' Spationaute III. He must have been content with that, because on Friday morning, he changed the auction format to a Buy-it-Now for the same price.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263528667999


March 10, 2018 at 11:15 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Which brings me back round to US eBay seller watchaddict412. Yesterday afternoon he managed to sell another NOS Spationaute III. Not for his now much reduced (but still borderline extortionate) Buy-it-Now price of $535 ....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132525682987



But as revealed by WatchCount.com's look-up tool for an offer of $440:




Could it be that he's beginning to struggle to shift his speculatively over-priced stash of Yema N8's at his preferred inflated asking prices ? :P


His two latest eBay listings are for a Spationaute III (with the less popular yellow lume) and currently a third blingy N81W63 on the Lizard strap. Both these are listed as 7-day auctions with an opening bid price of 'only' $295 (to which of course you'd need to add the obligatory GSP charges of approx. $110 on top). :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132531676159



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132533010840


March 10, 2018 at 11:53 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at March 3, 2018 at 2:44 PM

This used Yema Spationaute III was listed this afternoon by a Zero-Feedback French eBay seller, as a 10-day auction with an opening bid price of 120 Euros (but with a reserve set). The strap fitted isn't original (looks like a ZRC) and the case-back has some nasty tool-inflicted scratches on it. Academic really, unless you're in France, because it looks like the seller is blocking bids à l'étranger. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142709618742


I'm not sure if it was inexperience, some intended strategy that backfired, or just plain stupidity on his part, but the Zero-feedback French eBay seller appears to have made a massive Faux Pas ! :lol: Later, in the evening of the first day, he made a few revisions to the listing. These included editing the title, deleting 'Spationaute III' so it just read simply 'Yema' and removing the reserve price altogether. 



The 10-day auction ended this afternoon, with only one bid placed (incidentally, a matter of 20 minutes after he'd made those revisions), thus selling for the comparative 'knock-down' opening bid price of 120 Euros ! :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142709618742

March 13, 2018 at 3:59 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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