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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 'build-it-yourself' unfinished restoration project / partial parts watch, offered by an Australian eBay seller could just as well fit in James' old 'Bottom of the 7Axx Barrel' thread:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330994183402

Seiko 7A28-7120 RAF Military aviators watch

 

One of my favourite watch projects has to go! 

This was bought from a collection of bits from a RAF disposal auction through another ebayer. Decided that I am never going to get around to fixing them so here they are for sale. 

A great opportunity to get into an official Royal Air Force watch with great pedigree that is highly usable. 

Case –Some heavy dents around rim of crystal. , some light dents on the face around the crystal, no buttons 

Back - 0274/ 1984 signed, a few medium scratches and wear from band 

Dial – Good, scratch under P sign otherwise very nice 

Movement - doesn't work.. 

No hands or crystal. 

Rarely available and a bit of Great British history that could be revived into a lovely watch. Great project with all the right bits there. 

Check the web for the history of this watch !




I noticed the seller is also listing a 'beater' head only 7A28-7029. What's the betting they end up going to the same winning bidder ?


August 18, 2013 at 8:35 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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That 'parts watch' in Australia ended up selling for $117.50(Au) approx. £68 - certainly a lot more than I'd have given for it. :o


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330994183402


Here's another 'less than ideally described' fixer-upper on eBay in UK, ending in 6 hours time. I expect this one will go rather higher:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171106920153



A gentleman's stainless steel Seiko military wristwatch dated 1989 

The watch is keeping time but the chronograph is not working. 

The crystal is very scratched but the dial looks to be perfect 

Case is in very good condition, case back is marked 6645-99/7683056^8662/89

The case measures approx 36mm in diameter

The watch is genuine guaranteed.


No mention of 7A28-7120 / RAF Gen. 1 / 'issued', in the title or description. But all it really needs (which it has) is the word 'Military'.


August 25, 2013 at 9:35 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Yeah. Thought that one might see a bit of sniper action. 

The listing received 438 views over the 7 days, so I doubt anyone who might have been interested would have missed it.

Bidding jumped from  £185 to £251 in the closing seconds. I seem to recognise the losing bidder ID as a forum member. :/


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171106920153


Not a bad price for a Gen. 1 in reasonable cosmetic condition. That's assuming it's an easy fix (or add the cost of a movement swap).


August 25, 2013 at 3:49 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at August 16, 2013 at 3:23 AM

At the risk of repeating myself (once again) ....

Well, I'm blowed - another 'Rarely Seen' 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 from the same eBay seller. :lol: This one's the 4th he's listed ! :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310724391463


The eBay auction for 4th of those allegedly 'Rarely Seen' 7A28-7120 Gen. 1's (from the same seller) ended about half an hour ago.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310724391463


This one did rather better than his previous 3 examples, making £510 after 3 bids. The listing received 210 views over 10 days.

Will this be his last ? :| Check the Q&A's at the bottom of the listing:


Q: Hi, I have bought one of these Gen 1 Seiko from you before and would like another one. Will you take £375 for it now, please?

A: Hello, it's the last one of the 89 gulf era ones I have left, £400 or bid for it and it will run the 10 days. Regards Doug.


August 25, 2013 at 5:17 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Another, without 7A28-7120 (or RAF) in the title / description, but with the magic 'Military' word.   God this is getting boring. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281158719610


FOR SALE IS THIS GENUINE MILITARY SEIKO GEN 1 CHRONOGRAPH WATCH IN VERY GOOD CONDITION, NEW BATTERY FITTED AND NEW STRAP, ALL THE FUNCTIONS WORK AS THEY SHOULD, ANY QUESTIONS ASK BEFORE YOU BID. NOTE THE WATCH NO IS.0007/84




However, with a serial # of 0007 / 84 (the first year of issue, if I'm not mistaken) - I doubt that one will hang around for very long. ;)


August 29, 2013 at 7:35 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I wasn't mistaken. 8) Per Ned Frederick's web page: http://home.earthlink.net/~nederick/SeikoChronoRevuVulcF.htm


The first RAF-issued Seiko chronograph ( Gen. 1 ) was procured from Seiko UK and issued primarily to Royal Air Force pilots and navigators from October 1984 until November 1990. According to documents I have received from Seiko, 11,307 pieces of this Gen. 1 model were supplied by Seiko to the British Armed Forces.


Funnily, the case-back shown on his web page is stamped 1007 / 84:



 

Both also have Seiko case-back serial numbers beginning 48xxxx - which indicates their dates of manufacture as August 1984.


August 29, 2013 at 8:18 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Another battered 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 'parts watch', listed on ebay in the UK earlier today:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171119283428



 

Seiko 7a28-7120 for parts or repair.

 

Watchcase is badly twisted and caseback is very difficult to fit however it was unscrewed from this case. Caseback has very bad scratching . Movement untested so selling as not working . Chapter ring very good as is the dial . No pushers / crown / gaskets.

 

1619 / 84

 

No reserve . UK postage only. Payment within 72 hours of auction finish please.


September 3, 2013 at 3:53 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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I nearly missed this one, when it was first listed yesterday:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151114830614


GENUINE MILITARY ISSUE USED SEIKO Gen 1 PILOTS CHRONO WRIST WATCH 

RARELY SEEN RAF ISSUE WATCH 1987( GULF era)

 

THERE ARE SOME SCRACHERS ON FACE AS I HAVE WORN IT. KEEPS PERFECT TIME.


Wouldn't be a genuine 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 if it sidn't have a few scrachers on its face, would it ? :lol:

Another 'RARELY SEEN' example, too. :roll: Well, perhaps rarely seen with a conventional leather strap fitted, anyway. :P


September 4, 2013 at 8:55 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I'm slipping up lately. Nearly missed another one ! :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181209299942


Ok....Gen I Seiko in almost perfect condition....everything on it functions fine....You could set your helo by it!

It's not long been thoroughly serviced by Seiko Uk and the guarantee is included. 

I should add that the promethium seems to running a little thin....which is a bit strange, due to its half life.....but it's a genuine watch from an honest seller....so bid with utmost confidence. 

Oh....and the strap is well used....it probably would enjoy a new one to match its new owner's taste.


September 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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However, with a serial # of 0007 / 84 (the first year of issue, if I'm not mistaken) - I doubt that one will hang around for very long. ;)


It seems I was wrong about that part. Over the last 9 days, the seller received (and declined) 8 offers, the highest of which, according to Goofbid's Best Offer tool was £480. But the seller stuck by their guns, and it finally sold in the early hours of this morning for £550:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281158719610

September 7, 2013 at 2:48 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Updates on a couple of eBay auctions for 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1's which ended earlier today.


The average (allegedly 'almost perfect') condition one with an opening bid price of £375 made £390.50:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181209299942



The pranged parts watch, starting @ 99p, made £51, falling to a sniper whose eBay Id (1***b) I recognise as belonging to Bob Barkell:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171119283428

September 10, 2013 at 11:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The eBay auction for the 7A28-7120 fitted with a leather strap ended earlier today, making a lower than average £362 after 11 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151114830614


The auction received 360 views over the 10 day listing period. Perhaps it might have done better if he'd 'stuck it on a NATO'. :/


September 13, 2013 at 12:42 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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And yet another.   All very patriotic  but probably rather optimistically over-priced @ £595. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121176576269


Seiko Generation 1 RAF pilots wristwatch. This is an issued watch as are all Generation 1 watches.

The watch is Seiko model 7A28 7120 which is known to have a very good chronograph quartz movement. 

The watch case back is marked 

6645-99 7683056

Pheon / Broad Arrow pointing up

5895/88 814122 

The watch was manufactured by Seiko and issued in 1988. 


The watch is all original other than the strap. Original style brown nylon and leather straps are available online. 

The original mineral glass crystal has a few minor scratches which in my opinion are part of the watches history.

Replacement crystals are readily available, but I would not change it. 

The original case also has minor marks which 99% of these issued watches have. The original dial and hands are excellent. 

The original movement operates exactly as it should, with all chronograph functions operational. All hands reset and zero perfectly. Chronograph pushers operate perfectly. Watch has a new battery.

The watch is a vintage military collectors piece and is not guaranteed waterproof.


In all a very genuine watch that has not been tinkered with as many of these watches have. The Seiko Generation 1 and 2's are to be honest the last RAF watches worth collecting, having a better build quality and movement than later, current and with MOD cuts, I would suggest any future issue watches. Should you have any queries please contact me. 


September 16, 2013 at 12:09 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seller has just reduced the rather over-optimistic Buy-it-Now price from £595 to £550. :roll:


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDetails&item=121176576269


Might want to try that again ! :lol:

September 18, 2013 at 5:36 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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That Buy-it-Now listing for the rather optimistically over-priced 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 just ended. No takers at £550 wasn't a surprise.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121176576269

September 22, 2013 at 9:57 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I'm sure that one will be back again, re-listed in no time - but for the moment I can't actually see any others listed on eBay. 

But there is one offered for sale on Watchuseek, posted 5 days ago:

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/fs-seiko-raf-gen-1-a-916684.html


FS: Seiko RAF gen 1

For sale: Seiko RAF gen 1 (7A28-7120) 

Runs perfect.

The reset button at 4 o'clock can stick sometimes. The crystal has some scratches, the most noticeable (a bit down, left from the center) is about 7mm long. Some scratches and dents on the body. 

Comes with a new blue NATO strap. (no name)

Price: 800 USD + shipping. (Through PayPal) 

Shipping is 20 USD for registreed mail (with tracking no.) worldwide from Sweden.




More zoomable images here. Gotta give the would-be seller 10/10 for an unusal choice of props though ! :lol:

September 22, 2013 at 10:13 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I'm sure that one will be back again, re-listed in no time ....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121181124063


I didn't catch the previous listing when it was first entered. Could have been just a 7-day or possibly a 10-day listing, for all I know. :/

Looks like the seller is prepared for a longer haul this time around - this re-listing is for 30 days. Same £550 B-I-N price - no offers.


September 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Or perhaps not. :lol:


September 26, 2013 at 11:47 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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And another with a B-I-N asking price well north of £500 !! :o


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200968673087


Seiko Gen 1 RAF British Military Issued Chronograph 

Fully serviced and in perfect working order 

New battery and crystal at service. 

1990 year, issued 

Cal 7A28 Movement 

20mm fixed bars 

A stunning, and original (except for the crystal), and impeccably serviced example. 

Has some marks commensurate with age 

Will be securely posted by Royal Mail Special delivery UK, and happy to post abroad, once again securely by Fedex or UPS, depending on your location. 

Large detailed photographs below.


There were 6 5 images embedded in the seller's description (one was a duplicate). Copyright images removed at the request of seller.


September 27, 2013 at 2:39 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Something a bit fishy going on with that one. 

As you can see from the screen print in my previous post, that listing was scheduled to finish this afternoon @ 17:06 BST.

For reasons best known to himself, the seller decided to end it 15 minutes early: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200968673087




At the time it had 30 watchers; the listing having received 316 views over 7 days ....

During which time, the seller declined 4 offers, including one for £500 earlier today:

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item=200968673087




Two minutes later, it's back again re-listed:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200971197432


October 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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