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Seiko7A38
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Yesterday evening another UK eBay seller listed a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, which appears to be in slightly better cosmetic condition - also coincidentally offered with two repro' straps, with an equally optimistic Buy-it-Now asking price of £1000 ! :o


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122355232271



If your viewing this listing you already know the facts about these rare watches. 

I bought this watch six years ago after a painstaking search. It's been well looked after with regular servicing.

It also comes with the correct and rare pigs skin leather strap. 

Pursuit of new hobby forces reluctant sale! 

Please feel free to ask any questions.


February 14, 2017 at 9:59 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at February 14, 2017 at 9:48 AM

I note that earlier today, the above UK eBay seller has reduced his Buy-it-Now price by £150 from £969 to £819 - not because he realized it was over-priced for the condition, but because it has a minor issue with the chronograph function.

See *LISTING UPDATE* amendment to the description below.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182452962743



Checking my eBay watching page, I noticed the previous UK eBay listing for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 ended yesterday afternoon.


A worldwide search on ended listings indicates that it sold, not for the reduced Buy-it-Now price of £819, but against a Best offer.

Unfortunately Goofbid's eBay Best Offer History tool has again failed to pick up what it actually sold for - only two rejected offers:


But thanks to 'my little eBay workaround' I can now reveal that it actually sold for a Best Offer of £760. 8)


February 16, 2017 at 6:52 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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The other Buy-it-Now listing for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 by a UK eBay seller (at the top of this page) was ended early yesterday morning. Presumably sold off eBay via 'the back door' for a more sensible reduced offer. :/


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122355232271



February 18, 2017 at 8:36 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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This sorry-looking 'spares or repair' basket case of a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed yesterday evening by a UK seller with an opening pid price of £1. The seller has erroniouly read the case-back model number as TA26-7120. :roll: How the seller can even describe the watch case as being 'good overall' (in the item specifics) is completely beyond me. He omits to mention the brutal pliers marks on the lugs and badly bent fixed bars, which are highlighted by his own gridline background. Regardless, it still appears to be attracting a fair bit of attention, with bidding currently @ £62.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222417367918


Listing a 1st Generation Seiko Chronograph military watch TA26-7120 Watch.

The Condition is as described as above.

Please view pictures .

Spares it is being sold as.


February 22, 2017 at 7:58 AM Flag Quote & Reply

johnnylarue
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Curious to find out how much this piece of rusted scrap metal salvaged from the wreckage of burning plane sells for.  These RAF Gen 1s really have been going for a disheartening amount of money lately... 

February 22, 2017 at 3:32 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Here's another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 listed yesterday evening by a US eBay seller, with an opening bid price of $799. I wouldn't personally describe it's overall condition as mint (nor anything like), but it appears to be in better cosmetic condition than many we've seen recently, with only comparatively minor dings to the bezel and lugs. That said, if you scroll to the last photo (of the case-back), this example also suffers from one bent fixed bar. :/


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152449061256


First Generation RAF Issued SEIKO CHRONOGRAPH Mint Condition 

Supplied by the Seiko Corporation to the British Armed Forces, production year 1984 

The watch has been fully serviced.

Case: Round shape, steel, 38mm,three pushers, the top right pusher starts and stops the chronograph functions of the watch. The top left pusher stops and starts the chronograph for recording split times. The bottom right pusher resets the chronograph counters to zero. Stamped on the back 6645-99 7683056 2094/84. Mint condition. 

Dial: Black, chronograph. mint condition. 

Movement: Seiko 7A28, has been fully serviced. 

Please study pictures carefully for more details. Watch sold AS IS. 

California Residents add 9% sales tax. 

International Buyers are responsible for all customs fees.


February 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at January 22, 2017 at 7:27 AM

Over the last week, I've been preoccupied with other issues (relating to the website / forum), so threads like this may have been temporarily neglected. :/ Though generally, January seems to been pretty quiet on the 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 front, so far. This one was listed by a US eBay seller a couple of days ago, with a speculative 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $1099. Not the best of examples - note the manky lume on the hour and minute hands (never a good sign) and worn and scratched caseback.

Still, I expect some sucker will be along anytime soon.  


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201788228506


I hadn't forgotten about that other 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 listed by the other US eBay seller (halfway down the previous page).

I had correctly assumed that it might hang around unsold for a while, because of the ambitious 'pie-in-the-sky' asking price.

Although the seller later reduced their Buy-it-Now price slightly from $1099 to $1049 (which I didn't think was significant enough to bother commenting on), that 30-day listing ended with the watch unsold. They subsequently re-listed it, again with a BIN of $1049.

That listing ended yesterday evening:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201824254566


I don't believe it could have sold for that price. Indeed a Worldwide search on ended listings shows it sold for a Best Offer.


Unfortunately once again, Goofbid's eBay Best Offer History tool has failed to pick up what it actually sold for. :(


All 9 results that it managed to pick up were for rejected offers against the original listing, the highest of which was for $950.

Which, funnily enough, according to 'my little eBay workaround' appears to be the same figure the watch sold for yesterday. ;)



February 27, 2017 at 7:34 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed on eBay yesterday afternoon by a UK seller - another lazy b*st*rd who can't be bothered to write a proper description. Gotta love his self-contradiction (viz. 'needs') though. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112316731836


Used and in excellent working condition. The Seiko Gen 1 needs no more description than a photo.

Needs a new battery due to being in storage since bought.


February 27, 2017 at 6:25 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed late yesterday evening by a US eBay seller with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $1250. To anyone from the UK who might be foolhardy enough to consider buying it, at that price you'd need to add on a further $372.21 in eBay GSP charges ! :o Incidentally, if the eBay user ID dive-timer looks familiar (as it did to me), it's because he previously sold another example for $920 at the end of January, which is documented on the previous page.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252790330098


Great Gen 1 Seiko. Amazing condition.

Watch was just serviced by Seiko USA - no original parts were changed but the movement was serviced and running great. Fresh battery. Receipt will be sent to buyer. 
MOD strap included with the watch (strap was included when purchased from MOD surplus).


February 28, 2017 at 8:34 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Rare or not - they just keep on coming !  Keeping this thread updated is almost becoming a full-time job in itself lately ! 

This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed this morning by a UK eBay seller - yet another one with a Buy-it-Now price of £1,000:o


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162412880158


Vintage MOD issued RAF pilots watch. Dated 1990. 

All working perfectly, time and chrono. 

Obviously not mint but a few light marks as it should do being worn by military personnel. 

Please study the images provided. Lume is still bright and crystal is clean. 

No service history, new battery was replaced last year some time.


February 28, 2017 at 8:42 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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johnnylarue at February 22, 2017 at 3:32 PM

Curious to find out how much this piece of rusted scrap metal salvaged from the wreckage of burning plane sells for.  These RAF Gen 1s really have been going for a disheartening amount of money lately... 


TBH, I thought it looked more like it had been extricated from the slop bucket behind the bar in an RAF Officers' Mess. :lol:

Anyway, there you have it. The auction just ended a few moments ago - sold for totally ridiculous £222.67 after 28 bids. :o 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222417367918


Presumably the winning bidder is now searching eBay for a magic wand. :roll:


February 28, 2017 at 4:58 PM Flag Quote & Reply

johnnylarue
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In all seriousness, someone just paid 222 GBP for a badly banged up case, three chrono pushers, a crown and maybe a handful of not-entirely-corroded 7A28 movement screws?  No emoji can properly express the sadness this makes me feel for the state of our species.

February 28, 2017 at 5:48 PM Flag Quote & Reply

donwatch
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Guys, come on, that watch is restorable. ;)  Some glass bead blasting, expert dial and hand refinish and donor movement. The all important caseback was intact. :roll:    

February 28, 2017 at 10:07 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Checking my eBay watching page, I noticed that most recent UK eBay listing for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, with a Buy-it-Now for £1000, had ended yesterday evening (before we even started discussing that other piece of junk) - less than 12 hours after it was listed.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162412880158


Not for the full £1000 asking price, but as shown by a worldwide search on ended listings, against a Best Offer:


For once, Goodfbid's eBay Best Offer History tool managed to do its stuff and actually provided the answer - it sold for £900.



Interesting to note a couple of the 'lowball' rejected offers made were for £450 and £500. Looks like those days are long gone. :/


March 1, 2017 at 7:32 AM Flag Quote & Reply

johnnylarue
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Boy, that's a LOT of money.  I really love these watches but these prices are verging on vintage Omega Speedmaster territory and I'm not sure how I feel about that.  In general, I have a hard time with watches that come to be more valuable than their original MSRP. That's when you know you're not just paying for "a watch" anymore.

March 1, 2017 at 2:08 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at February 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM

Here's another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 listed yesterday evening by a US eBay seller, with an opening bid price of $799. I wouldn't personally describe it's overall condition as mint (nor anything like), but it appears to be in better cosmetic condition than many we've seen recently, with only comparatively minor dings to the bezel and lugs. That said, if you scroll to the last photo (of the case-back), this example also suffers from one bent fixed bar. :/


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152449061256


The above US eBay auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 ended a few moments ago, selling for $820 after only 3 bids.


March 3, 2017 at 5:16 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at February 27, 2017 at 6:25 PM

This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed on eBay yesterday afternoon by a UK seller - another lazy b*st*rd who can't be bothered to write a proper description. Gotta love his self-contradiction (viz. 'needs') though. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112316731836


Used and in excellent working condition. The Seiko Gen 1 needs no more description than a photo.

Needs a new battery due to being in storage since bought.



Yesterday evening, the UK eBay seller added the following amendment to his brief description:

 

On 04-Mar-17 at 20:05:27 GMT, seller added the following information:

This watch was working in November. As I was going to sell then, but didn't. If the buyer wants a new battery and seal fitted before payment for peace of mind. I am very happy to get this done. The sale can then be cancelled before postage or realise of funds. If the watch is then found not to work as it should with all functions. This would save any returns.


The auction ended a few moments ago, selling for £670 after 22 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112316731836


March 5, 2017 at 11:54 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed yesterday evening by a UK eBay seller, with an opening bid of 99p and no reserve. The NATO strap may be tatty (seller's words), but the watch head looks pretty decent compared to some other examples documented in this thread. Bidding has currently stalled at £255, but sure to go much higher.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201852038996


Seiko Military Watch as issued to Aircrew as part Of their Service Supplied kit.

P2 7A28-7120 water resistant, motifs, made in Japan etc all on the back case.

These are advertised at 300-450 pounds on ebay and are rare to find / own.

Dates from the 1990's and just had new battery fitted.

Lovely condition unusually as it is not scratched or bashed about - please see photos for the detail including all the issue numbers on the back case - this is not a cheap imitation!

See the photos for the detail, pay by paypal, best of luck bidding and thanks for looking.


March 14, 2017 at 6:11 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Last time I looked at the above auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, yesterday afternoon, bidding had reached £310. However, later yesterday evening, the seller cancelled all bids and ended the listing early 'because the item is no longer available'. So presumably it was sold off eBay for a 'back door' offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201852038996



March 17, 2017 at 8:05 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at February 28, 2017 at 8:34 AM

This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed late yesterday evening by a US eBay seller with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $1250. To anyone from the UK who might be foolhardy enough to consider buying it, at that price you'd need to add on a further $372.21 in eBay GSP charges ! :o Incidentally, if the eBay user ID dive-timer looks familiar (as it did to me), it's because he previously sold another example for $920 at the end of January, which is documented on the previous page.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252790330098


'Pie-in-the-sky' pricing or not, that US eBay seller stuck by his guns. It may have taken a couple of weeks and more, but eventually that 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 sold, earlier this evening - for the full $1250 Buy-it-Now asking price - over a Thousand Quid !! :o


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252790330098


March 17, 2017 at 5:39 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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