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In the meantime, here's another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, first listed on Tuesday with 2 days of the (reserve) auction still to run:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290988619337


Here I have for sale my old, Generation 1 Military watch. 

It is in perfect working order, it had a new battery couple of days ago. 

The strap is in great condition too ....


Thanks for the phone chat, Richard. ;)


October 4, 2013 at 1:55 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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White Man from North with Red Indian Native American  eBay user ID* - Him speak with forked tongue ! 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310762280717



STANDARD ISSUE RAF PILOTS CHRONO WATCH PRIOR TO AND DURING THE GULF CONFLICT MADE BY SEIKO OF JAPAN, these are 3 generation one watches, dated 1984, 1988 and 1989. ALL 3 ARE COMPLETE BUT NEED A SERVICE AS THEY REFUSE TO RUN CORRECTLY WHEN A NEW BATTERY WAS FITTED, THE BATTERIES HAVE BEEN REMOVED NSN is 6045-99-7683056 SERIAL number is 8514-6782-0706 Year of manufacture is 1984-1988-1989 Post and packing via Royal Mail registered will be £17.50 for UK mainland apart from post codes which attract a RM surcharge.


Not just the pretty bleedin' obvious fact that these watches are ANYTHING BUT RARELY SEEN, but when questioned by a potential buyer on his last (then 4th) listing, documented on the previous page, he replied (including quotes from my post dated 25th August):


The eBay auction for 4th of those allegedly 'Rarely Seen' 7A28-7120 Gen. 1's (from the same seller) ended about half an hour ago.

Will this be his last ? :| Check the Q&A's at the bottom of the listing: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310724391463


Q: Hi, I have bought one of these Gen 1 Seiko from you before and would like another one. Will you take £375 for it now, please?

A: Hello, it's the last one of the 89 gulf era ones I have left, £400 or bid for it and it will run the 10 days. Regards Doug.


* Lacota Indian Tȟašúŋke Witkó (misspelt as 'Ta Shunca Uitco') = Crazy Horse. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Horse


October 5, 2013 at 7:17 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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What was it wrote on the previous page ? :lol:

And yet another.   All very patriotic  but probably rather optimistically over-priced @ £595. 


Well, our flag-waving would-be eBay seller naiscs2005 is back again with another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121188879474


Seiko Generation 1 RAF pilots wristwatch. This is an issued watch as are all Generation 1 watches.

The watch is Seiko model 7A28 7120 which is known to have a very good chronograph quartz movement. 

The watch case back is marked: 

6645-99 7683056

Pheon / Broad Arrow pointing up

10700/90 013095 

The watch was manufactured by Seiko and issued in 1990.

 

The watch is all original other than the strap. Original style brown nylon and leather straps are available on line. 

The original mineral glass crystal was heavily scratched and has been replaced with a beveled mineral glass crystal, the original crystal will be provided to keep the watch complete. 

The original case also has minor marks which 99% of these issued watches have. The original dial and hands are excellent. 

The original movement operates exactly as it should, with all chronograph functions operational. All hands reset and zero perfectly. Chronograph pushers operate perfectly. Watch has a new battery. 

The watch is a vintage military collectors piece and is not guaranteed waterproof.

 

In all a very genuine watch that has not been tinkered with as many of these watches have. The Seiko Generation 1 and 2's are to be honest the last RAF watches worth collecting, having a better build quality and movement than later, current and with MOD cuts, I would suggest any future issue watches. Should you have any queries please contact me.


Although this listing might look very similar to the one on the previous page, the watch is a different issue # 10700 / 90 (vs 5895 / 88). 


October 6, 2013 at 12:32 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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That reserve price auction for the 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, which I posted at the top of this page, ended about 10 minutes ago.


In the meantime, here's another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, first listed on Tuesday with 2 days of the (reserve) auction still to run ....


It must have been a nerve-wracking afternoon for the seller, because up until 40 minutes before the auction ended, bidding was still languishing at £160, well short of the reserve. In the last half hour, a few more bids came in: with 5 minutes to go, it was up to £255. Then someone placed a couple more bids and the seller's reserve price of £350 was finally met. That's how it ended after 12 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290988619337

October 6, 2013 at 2:15 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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DON'T EVER listen to anyone who anyone who tries to convince you that 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 watches are even slightly rare. 

'Cos here's another batch of 3 !! :lol::lol::lol:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190922443875


Three issued Seiko Generation 1 Chronographs 

Dates of issue: 1986, 1989 and 1990 

All have new Maxell batteries and hold time well but could probably benefit from a service 

Two Phoenix straps included, grey leather and green (not the original strap colours but I think suit the watches!) 

Each watch has some marks on the crystal and the 1989 watch has a blemish on the inside face of its crystal at 10 o'clock (see pictures) 

The pusher at 2 o'clock on 1986 watch sticks in when pushed and the 1990 watch is missing the pusher at 4 o'clock (but function works) 

Questions welcome.


October 6, 2013 at 2:50 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at October 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Something a bit fishy going on with that one. 

As you can see from the screen print in my previous post, that listing was scheduled to finish this afternoon @ 17:06 BST.

For reasons best known to himself, the seller decided to end it 15 minutes early: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200968673087




At the time it had 30 watchers; the listing having received 316 views over 7 days ....

During which time, the seller declined 4 offers, including one for £500 earlier today:

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item=200968673087




Two minutes later, it's back again re-listed:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200971197432



Wheesht - and there it was - gone again !! 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200971197432



Possibly might have something to do with the fact that he reduced the price from £590 to £550 and didn't get a single offer this time.


October 9, 2013 at 10:00 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Hang on a minute, there's still something a bit fishy going on with that one. 

Notice what time the seller ended the (re)listing - 1:20am this morning (UK time).

But when did he actually lower the Buy-it-Now price from £590 to 'only' £550 ? :|


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDetails&item=200971197432



Less than a minute, in fact 30 seconds before he ended the listing ! :o

At the exact same time as he deleted all bar one of his listing photos, the description and amended the title - something I've never encountered the like of before in all my years of watching eBay. Although, no doubt, the seller would have you believe otherwise ....

These theatrics - and there really is no other word for them, coupled with the faux price reduction, could easily be construed as the actions of a would-be seller hoping to solicit offers 'after-the-fact', from anybody who had been watching this or his previous listing. 


October 9, 2013 at 11:29 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Well, one over-priced 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 may have been tantalisingly allegedly withdrawn by the seller ....

But not to worry - there's always plenty more waiting in the wings - even starting with an opening bid price of 99p - and no reserve. :D


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190925388521



I am auctioning a surplus Seiko Gen 1 issued pilots watch from my collection. This is a fully functioning nice piece with no problems. I had it fully serviced last year and the glass replaced (£243.50) It keeps perfect time and all the hands on the chronograph function zero perfectly. The 1/10th of a second counter also functions perfectly and lines up exactly.


Issue date of 1990 this will place it in the same era as the first Gulf war. Numbers on the back as follows... 

6645-99 

7683056 

9974/90 

Usual marks on the watch from service over the years as expected, please see photos for details. No strap.


These watches are becoming increasingly rare and sought after and are acclaimed to be one of the most accurate quartz watches ever produced, I have not re-set the time on this since it was serviced and it is spot on.

The watch I am offering is a good, honest , fully working, problem free example.  

99p start and no reserve.


October 9, 2013 at 6:50 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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White Man from North with Red Indian Native American  eBay user ID* - Him speak with forked tongue !  


No scalps taken on that first job lot of three 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1's from the lodge of Big Chief Bull Rarely Seen.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310762280717


Re-listed 5 minutes later: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310769516848 and again, 10 days later: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310777592797

And again in November: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310786349987 and again, 10 days later: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310795068817

Yet again in November: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310804266896 and again in December: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151181275458


October 14, 2013 at 6:09 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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But not to worry - there's always plenty more waiting in the wings - even starting with an opening bid price of 99p - and no reserve. :D


That auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 had taken a little while to get going. At midday today, bidding was still languishing at £180.

With 3 hours to go, after 25 bids, it had reached £283. With 2 minutes to go, it was up to £330. Then came the snipe-fest


It ended a few moments ago @ £489.64 after 34 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190925388521


Which, if nothing else, should serve to demonstrate to other greedy would-be sellers, with wishful B-I-N asking prices ....

what a half-decent example of a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 can make - in a 99p low-start, no reserve auction. Nuff said. ;)


October 16, 2013 at 2:31 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at October 9, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Seiko7A38 at October 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Something a bit fishy going on with that one. 

As you can see from the screen print in my previous post, that listing was scheduled to finish this afternoon @ 17:06 BST.

For reasons best known to himself, the seller decided to end it 15 minutes early: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200968673087




At the time it had 30 watchers; the listing having received 316 views over 7 days ....

During which time, the seller declined 4 offers, including one for £500 earlier today:

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item=200968673087




Two minutes later, it's back again re-listed:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200971197432



Wheesht - and there it was - gone again !! 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200971197432



Possibly might have something to do with the fact that he reduced the price from £590 to £550 and didn't get a single offer this time.



Looks like Mr Wheesht! must have had a change of heart (again). 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200980453595


Allegedly, this time:

 

Well, an unexpected Vet's bill has arisen, and I need to raise some funds.

So for sale is my beautiful Seiko Gen 1....


Having witnessed his previous shenanigans and subsequently been in receipt of threatening emails from this greedy hypocrite ....

I for one would be very wary about dealing with this particular seller. 

Edit: Note also the somewhat lop-sided fitting of the replacement crystal apparent in the seller's 4th (side view) listing photo ! 


October 27, 2013 at 5:29 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above listing for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 by eBay seller Wheesht! ended a few minutes ago. Needless to say, it went unsold.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm200980453595


At the time the listing ended it had 20 watchers had received some 320 views - but only one offer of £330, which was declined:




During the course of the listing, the would-be seller made three revisions to his description:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDetails&item=200980453595



The body of the description's wording ended up looking like this:


Without the B/S about the Vet's bill. :lol:


However, more significantly, after I made that belated postscript to my previous post:

Edit: Note also the somewhat lop-sided fitting of the replacement crystal apparent in the seller's 4th (side view) listing photo !


That photo, which was embedded in the listing description was subsequently removed.

I'd post the photo for all to see, here, were it not for the fact that Mr. Wheesht! is a bit precious about his copyrighted images. 


November 3, 2013 at 9:40 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Goes without saying - it was back again re-listed (without that 4th now missing photo) just two minutes after the previous listing ended.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200983285692

November 3, 2013 at 10:08 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Meantime, while Mr. Wheesht holds out for top price (and then some) there are always plenty more 7A28-7120 RAF Gen 1's about. :P

Here's another rather more realistically priced example, listed earlier today:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221310068812



SEIKO GEN 1 RAF/RN 1988 WATCH

 

For sale 1988 Seiko Gen 1 this was issued to an officer who served in the Royal Navy for 35 years and retired in 2002 some of the time on HMS Southampton flying Westland Lynx helicopters. Watch is in very good condition fully working, all buttons work and reset to zero. Glass and case has a couple of marks but hardly noticable commensurate for age and use. The watch comes on correct MOD style strap also supplied original naval strap. Very collectable military watch, need to slim down my watch collection.

Details on back of watch 6645-99 7683056 Broad Arrow mark 5596/88

Seiko 7A28-7120 813616

 

Private offers above starting price taken no low ball offers considered give your best offer.


The implication of the seller's statement is in contravention of eBay policy and likely to result in the listing being pulled (or edited). 


November 3, 2013 at 10:18 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Another fixer-upper 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 with a chronograph fault, which I'd suspect will probably turn out to be a relatively easy fix.

Fitted with a leather strap, rather than the customary NATO. Opening bid @ only £49.99 - the 7-day auction should be worth watching.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350916930350




Vintage Military Seiko Chronograph wrist watch. The watch is working but the chronograph is not, the reset pusher does not seem to work so the watch may need a service to rectify these issues. The dial is signed: Seiko P Japan 7A28-714L T. The case back is stamped: Seiko Stainless steel Water resistant 7A28-7120 6645-99 768056 10692/90 013424 Japan. Case diameter measures 37mm. We post packages on either Monday or Thursday or on nearest day once payment has been received. A very good quality wrist watch to add to a collection.

November 4, 2013 at 2:09 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at November 3, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Goes without saying - it was back again re-listed (without that 4th now missing photo) just two minutes after the previous listing ended.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200983285692


I wouldn't dare to presume that this thread is having any influence on asking / selling prices for 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1's  but ....


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDetails&item=200983285692


It was with some amusement I noticed this morning that Mr. Wheesht! had reduced his Buy-it-Now price yesterday from £595 to £495.


This eBay notification arrived in my email inbox a couple of hours later:



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200983285692


Ironic when you look back through the thread and see that just a month ago, on 4th October, he declined a generous offer of £500. :roll:



November 6, 2013 at 3:46 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I hadn't bothered mentioning it previously, but ....

In a similar vein, though not so blatantly greedy, patriotic flag-waving seller naiscs2005 had reduced his B-I-N price from £550 to £525:

It still went unsold: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121188879474



In his current 30-day re-listing, the Buy-it-Now price has been further reduced to £500:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121208882630

November 6, 2013 at 4:07 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at October 6, 2013 at 2:50 PM

DON'T EVER listen to anyone who anyone who tries to convince you that 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 watches are even slightly rare. 

'Cos here's another batch of 3 !! :lol::lol::lol:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190922443875


Three issued Seiko Generation 1 Chronographs 

Dates of issue: 1986, 1989 and 1990 

All have new Maxell batteries and hold time well but could probably benefit from a service 

Two Phoenix straps included, grey leather and green (not the original strap colours but I think suit the watches!) 

Each watch has some marks on the crystal and the 1989 watch has a blemish on the inside face of its crystal at 10 o'clock (see pictures) 

The pusher at 2 o'clock on 1986 watch sticks in when pushed and the 1990 watch is missing the pusher at 4 o'clock (but function works) 

Questions welcome.



Meanwhile the 30-day listing for that second lot of 3 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1's also ended yesterday - not surprisingly unsold.



It's not been re-listed (as yet). I suspect the seller has realized that the Bay is flooded with the things at the moment. Buyer's market. 

November 6, 2013 at 4:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Another auction result for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 just in - the auction ended about 10 minutes ago:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221310068812


In fact, this one was already @ £420 after only two bids, by late yesterday afternoon - and that's how it stayed.


November 10, 2013 at 4:03 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Once again would-be eBay seller Wheesht!'s 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 goes unsold. Perhaps he'll decide to keep it (again) this time. :lol:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200983285692


Purely for the record, this time around he received (and subsequently declined) 3 offers for the watch, the highest of which was £480:


http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item=200983285692



The listing received some 273 views over the course of this 7-day listing, and best I can tell, at peak 25 people had been watching it.


Edit: It was back again, re-listed within a matter of minutes after the previous listing ended: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200986030544


November 10, 2013 at 9:38 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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