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Seiko7A38 at December 23, 2017 at 10:26 AM

This job lot pairing of a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 and 7T27-7A20 RN Gen. 2 was listed yesterday evening by a German eBay seller, with an optimistic Buy-it-Now price of 1850 Euros.

The German eBay seller of the 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 / 7T27-7A20 Gen. 2 job lot pairing also ended his listing a few days early, yesterday evening, having reduced the Buy-it-Now price twice, earlier in the month by a total of 200 Euros. Whether they sold off eBay individually, or as a pair and what they might have gone for is anybody's guess. :/

January 18, 2018 at 2:00 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 'head only', in average worn condition, with typically bent fixed bars and a possible chrono' fault, was listed at lunchtime today with a Buy-it-Now price of £650 (and currently no 'make offer' option). Note that it's only a 3-day listing - see description.

Here is my 1990 Seiko RAF pilots watch. I’ve had it a couple of years, but I now have my sights on an other watch. This is keeping good time . I have tried all the resets on the watch and left hand minute hand is not re setting. It still moves round when setting the watch. It was working fine before I put it in the drawer. As I said, the watch is keeping good time. I’m off to Australia on Monday so it’s a 3 day auction. Any questions just ask.

Check my feedback to see I am a trusted seller. If you decide to buy, payment must be made immediately, so I can post on Monday.

January 19, 2018 at 1:41 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Over the course of the three days, the seller made a number of revisions:

.... including adding this patently correct statement to the description:

Ok folks I am an idiot! If you had read earlier description, I said the chrono hands were not all returning to the 12 position, they are! All hands sweep back to 12 position now. After pressing the correct button at 4 o’clock position, all hands now sweep back to 12. Amazing what you forget!

I have also revised the price.

Indeed he had, increasing the Buy-it-Now price from £650 to £800. 

The listing ended on Monday around lunchtime with the watch unsold.

January 28, 2018 at 4:20 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed yesterday evening by a US eBay seller, with an over-optimistic Buy-it-Now price of $1359. Supposedly 'mint condition' it has all the usual minor dings and only slightly bent fixed bars. The seller cites '1995', but the Seiko case-back serial number beginning 01xxxx shows it was manufactured in January 1990 and no great surprise, the suffix of the issue number also ends in 90. :roll:

Up for sale is a super rare 1995 Seiko Gen 1 RAF watch on new genuine Phoenix NATO strap. This watch is an exceptional, original and unpolished condition. Difficult to find like this considering it was actually issued. It was completely overhauled (see pics) in 2017 and runs excellent. I've owned a few of these and a lot of them are well worn with major dings, dents and scratches, but not this one. All issue markings are clear and visible, lug bars are pretty straight. Dial is perfect as are the hands. Functions as it should and ready to wear for many years to come. Do some research, these are the best military grade quartz watches out there. Collector watch that is increasing in value. My only reason for selling is I need to clear out some space in my collection.

Bid with confidence, as I have 100% positive feedback. Thanks for looking!

January 28, 2018 at 4:25 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I sometimes wonder why I even bother adding these speculatively over-priced examples to my eBay watching page, because you can almost predict the outcome with some certainty. :roll: Another one eBay didn't collect their commission on. :/

January 30, 2018 at 2:02 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Heres another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 listed at lunchtime today, by a UK eBay seller, as a 7-day auction with a somwhat over-optimistic opening bid price of £850. Note it's being sold as a 'head only', without a strap and going by his description, the seller's primary image has been 'borrowed' from elsewhere. His own two photos of the watch aren't up to much. :roll:

This is a very rare item issued primarily to Royal Air Force pilots and navigators from October 1984 until November 1990.

This Gen. 1 chronograph in a stainless steel case. It carries the highly-regarded, 15-jewel, quartz 7A28 Seiko movement.

Without original strap, few light marks on face.

The picture with a strap comes from manufacturers site as better quality pic.

February 3, 2018 at 2:24 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above 7-day UK eBay auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 ended 15 minutes ago, selling for the opening bid price of £850.

February 10, 2018 at 8:25 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 'Head Only' Project watch was listed late yesterday evening by UK eBay seller 24699510 with a Buy-it-Now price of £750 or the option to make an offer. If you've been following this thread, then you'll no doubt recall his offering a number of similar 'Project' watches last year. It has to be said, whether it's ineptitude or sheer laziness, as a frequent dealer in military watches, he seems totally incapable of rectifying the simplest faults with his offerings, but has no qualms about asking top price as if they were fully working examples.

Seiko RAF Gen-1 1988

Hello & welcome to my auction of a RAF pilots Seiko Chronograph, the watch is fully original direct from a MOD release sale.

All features work well except the 1/10th second timer sub-dial, the sub-dial hand does engage when the chrono is started, it is not totally dead but just judders & cannot be reset.

Superb like new condition dial hand-set & re-haut.

Crown works well time-setting & in chrono reset mode.

All the pushers work & their gaskets show no sign of leakage, top right pusher is a little sticky & will need a clean or maybe a new spring.

No signs of rust or corrosion to the movement or inside the battery holder, or around the inside of the pushers or around the top-plate.

Better than average condition case.

The crystal has small scratches.

Case-back gasket present.

A new 20mm Grey NATO strap will be included.

All in a nice condition fully original watch, a easy project to fix the 1/10th register or would be worth sending to for a service (full movement service, year warranty, new gaskets crystal & battery is only around £100)

Trade's & Buying-

I buy & collect military watches, if you would like to trade your old military watch for one of mine or just want to sell your watch please get in touch with a brief description / picture or two + your price.

Interested in any watch (WWII-1990's) military issued any condition considered, also just watch parts straps boxes & ephemera

Also military clocks & vintage military inspired pilots or divers watches - Longines Lemania Hamilton Blancpain JLC IWC Smiths etc

Blah, Blah, Blah ....

February 13, 2018 at 6:48 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above eBay listing for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 'Project' ended about an hour ago, when the seller accepted an offer made earlier this morning.

As revealed by's look-up tool, that offer was for £650.

As confirmed by the eBay Purchase History:

February 13, 2018 at 8:31 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed early yesterday morning, by a UK eBay seller,  with a risible 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of £1125 - and currently no option to make an offer. Note the seller's smartass choice of eBay user ID - prices4u2nv (prices for you to envy). No envy here - just mild bemusement ! :roll:

Here is a serviced British Military SEIKO 7A28-7120 stamped 9855/90, meaning it was Gulf War era issued in 1990.

The watch is in superb and original condition, considering where it has been. The case has a few tiny marks but unless these were pointed out you really can't see them. The movement works exactly as it should, all functions start/stop and reset as designed. Following a complete overhaul, clean and new battery, the watch runs perfectly. The pushers are clean and not sticky, and the dial is superb with original hour/minute and subdial hands. These are becoming harder to find in this condition. The watch is offered with 12 months mechanical guarantee. Comes on a black NATO strap.

Movement: 7A28 chronograph, continuous Seconds, 1/10seconds, 60 seconds, 30 min.

6645: British MoD RAF Wristwatch, 99: NATO code for UK, 7683056: Nato Specification MSN number, 9855: I.D number, 90: issued in 1990.

Case: 37mm.

Lugs: 20mm fixed bars.

The watch is for sale elsewhere so may end early. More pictures on insta if you see the last picture.

February 15, 2018 at 5:35 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Speaking of speculatively over-priced offerings ....

Remember that job lot pairing of a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 and 7T27-7A20, that was listed on eBay Germany, just before Christmas ? (If not just scroll back up to the top of this page). Well it's back again - re-listed yesterday evening. :roll:

February 15, 2018 at 5:42 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at December 14, 2017 at 11:52 AM

There was another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 listed on eBay this morning by another UK seller. This one has a Buy-it-Now price of £995 (or best offer).

At the risk of repeating myself (hence the partial quote from the previous page) ....

'Another' grossly over-priced 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed this afternoon by a UK eBay seller, with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of  £995 (or the option to make an offer). The first thing that caught my attention was the seller's slightly unusual user ID: queeng1st. If you run a search on the forum on it, you'll soon realize this is yet another instance of Déjà Vu. This watch was previously listed just before Christmas and theoretically sold against a best offer for £700 the following day. But there's rather more to it than that. This one also appears to be a definate case of Caveat Emptor

This is actually a re-listing of the previous, but with a different primary image. Whether it's a new photo of the same watch, taken by the seller, or one 'borrowed' from elsewhere is anybody's guess.

The description is exactly the same as the previous listing:


Early 1980s Seiko Generation One Military Issue (RAF) Quartz Chronographic Wrist Watch

The 7A28-7120, called the Gen 1. The Gen 1’s case is simpler than all commercially available 7A28 models. Matte, blasted finish, integrated unmarked bezel. Military guidelines, stamped “Circle P” on the dial, indicating the use of Promethium a Radioactive element. Collectable military wrist watch from the Falklands era.

Working condition.

No returns accepted, please carefully read description and look at photos.

Just to make sure this was the same watch, I clicked on the photo of the case-back (something I hadn't done with the previous listing while it was briefly live). Both the previous and this re-listing use the same photo:

Had I looked at it before, I certainly would have commented on it. Note there is no mention in the seller's description that the military markings have been obliterated. But does that Seiko case-back serial number 816450 ring any bells with anyone else ? Try running a search on the forum on 816450 and you'll see why.  ;)

Apart from having featured in this thread before, when it previously sold back in November last year after a speight of shenanigans (see page 31 for more details), this 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 also has it's own aptly titled separate thread.

February 15, 2018 at 3:33 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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