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Eleven Hundred Quid for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 a bit rich for you ? How about Twelve Hundred then ? Or the US Dollar equivalent in this case. This example was listed yesterday evening by a Spanish eBay seller with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $1600 !! :o


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302753428772



If you are looking for this watch you don't need a history lesson about the 7A28 movement or the military issued Seiko watches so I'll go direct to the point.

The watch is an original unmolested example, only the glass has been replaced because of a deep scratch, also a new battery.

The stainless steel case still in great shape, has a few marks and scratches, keeping the original satin finish. Please study the photographs as they are the best description.

Dial and hands are almost perfect, no stains or paint lost, lume on hour hand looks a bit dirty, but just a bit.

All functions working as it should. I can't guarantee it but I can show video proof that actually it is working, also you can check the 8s photo with all hands moving, not a single problem with it since I have it. Water resistance not tested.

These are the numbers stamped on the back:

6645-99

7683056

9060/89

953748

New grey and black NATO strap.

I'll use the fastest shipping service I can find for the money but I have no preferences, if you want a specific shipping method just contact me.

For buyers outside Europe, you are responsible for any import duties charges, I always declare a low value anyway. the safest method to avoid customs is my national mail system, but can be slow depending on the destination and luck, if you want the fastest method I'll need your phone number for the shipping company and some ID number for the export documentation.

More interesting watches on my profile.


Not that I take a particularly close interest in these things, but that description sounded vaguely familiar. It's the same Spanish eBay seller aguiloco, whose previous similarly speculatively over-priced offering headed the previous page. That one sold for the 1400 Euros Buy-it-Now price. Like I wrote at the time ....

Of course, all it ever takes is for some numpty to hit the Buy-it-Now button. :roll:



May 30, 2018 at 11:28 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at May 27, 2018 at 10:51 AM

This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, Head Only, with 'provenance' (in terms of missing the smashed crystal) was listed yesterday evening by a UK eBay seller as a 5-day auction, with an opening bid price of £100.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253648921121


The above 5-day UK eBay auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head Only with 'provenance' ended a few moments ago, in a veritable snipefest, with 9 different bidders bidding it up from £400 in the final minute. It sold for a reassuringly strong £809.99 after 39 bids.


May 31, 2018 at 2:00 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Here's yet another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 with a £1200 Buy-it-Now price. This one was listed this afternoon by a UK eBay seller. Still at least it's got a more sensible opening bid price of £800. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132647347594


This is an example of the much sought after Seiko Generation 1 Military issue Chronograph. Used by British military aviators in the 80s and 90s, they are rightly prized for their clearly rendered faces and precision controls.

The example I have is date stamped 1984 and also has all the correct military markings on the reverse.

As can be seen in the photographs, this is a particularly clean and well looked after watch. There are a couple of tiny signs of wear on the bezel, otherwise it is in really excellent condition. Everything on the watch works as it should, it has smooth acting buttons and the face is unmarked as far as I can tell. From looking at the other examples currently for sale I would say this is the best currently available.

I will post around the world. Mail will be registered and insured but mail quote is for mainland UK only.

You will need at least 20 positive feedback from eBay for me to accept the bid.

It you have any questions about the watch please ask.


June 2, 2018 at 1:51 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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I note with mild bemusement that UK eBay seller has since seen fit to increase the prices of his already over-priced 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1. He revised his listing yesterday, increasing the opening bid price to £900 and the Buy-it-Now to £1260.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132647347594

June 5, 2018 at 8:22 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Indeed, I see this whole speculative over-pricing tactic used by so many eBay sellers as something of a joke. Here's another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 'Head Only' that was listed yesterday evening by another UK eBay seller, with a Buy-it-Now price of £1000.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292591761121



Less than 5 hours later, he revised the listing, reducing his original 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now asking price down to 'only' £850. :roll:




Very nice condition Seiko Gen 1 issued in the first year 1984. Owned this watch for years, but don't now often wear. So your opportunity to have a piece of Britsh RAF history. All functions work. Reset sweep button is a little stiff, and sometimes takes a little while to pop out. Will supply on a grey NATO strap.

Pictures form description. UK sale only.


(Three more photos are embedded in the description, below the text.)


June 5, 2018 at 8:34 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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That seems to have been a step in the right direction, because it sold earlier this evening, but not for the reduced Buy-it-Now price.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292591761121


WatchCount.com's Look-up tool reveals it actually sold for an offer of £775.



Incidentally, if you click on the item number link in my previous post, you'll now be re-directed to another totally unrelated eBay listing for a Precista military watch. In their effort to enhance our buying experience, eBay's tech wizards have seen fit to further corrupt the data available for ended / sold items. The original eBay item link was good at the time I posted it. :roll:


June 5, 2018 at 5:34 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Here's another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 that was listed earlier this evening by a UK business seller, as a 7-day auction, with an opening bid price of £400. If the opening bid price of £400, the 'James Bond' NATO strap, the seller's location of Basildon, Essex and the vague description all sound familiar, it's because it's safe to assume that advancedarmedforces is an alias for britishmilitarysurplus, who's previously listed umpteen such 7A28 RAF Gen. 1's in an almost identical manner.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253670329049


ADVANCED ARMED FORCES

Seiko Pilot Generation 1 Watch

Genuine Issue

First Issued 1988

Untested Watch

Appears To Be Working - UNTESTED

Sold Without Any Guarantee Or Warranty

Sold As Seen

Light Signs Of Wear

ADVANCED ARMED FORCES - OFFICIAL CONTRACTORS OF THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE - GENUINE MILITARY ITEMS

We will be using a Courier to send these items. They will need to be signed for, please CONTACT US DIRECTLY to provide delivery instructions or an alternate address if you will not be in on the day of delivery. The service provided will be for 2 delivery attempts, after which the parcel will be held at the depot for 5 days before being sent back to us. A third attempt at delivery will cost £5.75.


June 5, 2018 at 5:59 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Checking my eBay watching page I've just spotted another 'non-result'. :roll: After jacking up his prices, UK eBay seller 6584philip6584 ended the listing for his risibly over-priced 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 early this morning, 'because the item is no longer available'. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132647347594



So it's probably safe to assume it's been sold off eBay, in response to a 'back door' offer for a lower figure. Once again, thanks to eBay's latest spate of re-directs, the item number links in my two previous posts about this watch will currently take you to another irrelevant listing for a Hamilton military watch. I'm not going to bother re-linking them. They were good links at the time I posted them ! :mad:


June 6, 2018 at 4:37 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at March 30, 2018 at 4:10 PM

What reminded me of that one, was the appearance on eBay earlier today of a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 'Head Only', listed by a Japanese seller - with a ludicrous 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $2436 (or the option to make an offer). I have a feeling that this one will also be with us for some time to come. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323179271370


I noticed that one had recently dropped to the bottom of my eBay watching page.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323179271370



Ended by the Japanese seller in the early hours of yesterday morning. Due to the slightly unusual manner in which it was ended, I have absolutely no idea what price it may have actually sold for, but one assumes it was considerably less than the ludicrous Buy-it-Now asking price. :/


June 9, 2018 at 6:06 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Here's a link to a topical thread over on TZ-UK: Seiko 7A28 Gen 1

Basically, the OP asks the question: Would those owners who'd bought them years ago, while prices were still sensible, be prepared to pay the current £1000+ asking prices for one today. General concensus - No. 

June 10, 2018 at 3:29 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The 7-day eBay auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 by UK business seller advancedarmedforces ended a few moments ago, selling for £649 after 8 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253670329049

June 12, 2018 at 3:39 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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UK eBay seller crispin-jones (a.k.a. Mr Jones) listed another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 yesterday evening, as a 7-day auction, with a low start opening bid price of 99p. Within just over 15 minutes after the listing went live, by 9:00pm, bidding had already climbed to £430.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232808056630


Good condition Seiko RAF Gen 1 military issued chronograph, that was issued in 1988.

I fitted a new battery and all the functions work fine and it keeps time, comes with a new NATO strap.

37mm diameter case in good condition - has some scratches and dings as you would expect, but nothing too bad.

I uploaded a video showing the various chrono functions working here.

£0.99p start and no reserve / no buy it now

Free UK shipping via Royal Mail Special Delivery (insured and tracked ) or you can collect from London SE5

Happy to post internationally via Royal Mail Tracked & Signed (insured) or FedEx


June 18, 2018 at 7:34 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Hardly worth mentioning really. :roll: But just to reassure followers / readers of this thread that I hadn't forgotten about all the grossly over-priced examples of 7A28 RAF Gen. 1, which are still languishing unsold on eBay. In fact, if memory serves, this one's already been re-listed ad nauseam on Yahoo Japan for over a year.


The would-be Japanese seller has been using a consignment seller to list it on eBay. In the early hours of this morning they re-listed it with a 'Special Offer' 5% discount !! Yours now for only $2071 !! :lol:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273307209999

June 19, 2018 at 8:29 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Here's yet another speculatively over-priced 7A28-7120 RAF Gen 1, listed earlier this afternoon, by an Italian eBay seller, with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of 1350 Euros. Dunno about the 'rarissimo' bit. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113079027759

LE FOTO PARLANO DA SOLE

DESCRIZIONE

Seiko military vintage chronograph RAF British 7A28-7120

Misura: 35 mm (esclusa corona)

Materiale: acciaio

Movimento: quarzo

Quadrante: nero

Condizioni: ottime

Scatola: no

Garanzia originale : no

Contattatemi per ulteriori informazioni.

Spedizione tracciabile o consegna a mano a Milano.

Contattatemi per ulteriori informazioni.

-----ENGLISH VERSION-----

-The photos of the clock speak clearly and represent what you will receive.

- We ship worldwide with armored courier, full value insured, within 24-48 hours of receipt of payment, delivery within 48/72 hours of dispatch. "Ferrari Shipping" or "DHL or GLS"

- Import duties, taxes, charges and shipping costs, are not included in the item price. These charges are at buyer's responsibility.

Please check with Customs Office in your country's to determine which additional costs you might have, before proceeding with your purchase.

- No Tax Free

- We accept direct Bank Transfer ONLY.

- IMPORTANT: Return accepted only within 14 days from receipt of parcel. After inspecting the goods returned, we will refund the amount paid except shipping costs,import duties,customs cost,and taxes.

- All our watches have a guarantee of 12 months of good functioning.

For remote assistance, shipping costs, import duties,customs cost, and taxes, are on buyer's charge .


June 19, 2018 at 10:47 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Just going through my eBay watching page, I've picked up another non-result. :roll: Stupidly named UK eBay seller prices4u2nv ended their speculatively over-priced listing for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 yesterday evening, as item no longer available. So presumably sold off eBay for a lower price they'd rather not brag about. :P


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132640698152



June 22, 2018 at 6:13 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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UK eBay seller crispin-jones's 7-day auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 ended yesterday evening, selling for £696 after 18 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232808056630


June 25, 2018 at 3:39 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at May 31, 2018 at 2:00 PM

Seiko7A38 at May 27, 2018 at 10:51 AM

This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, Head Only, with 'provenance' (in terms of missing the smashed crystal) was listed yesterday evening by a UK eBay seller as a 5-day auction, with an opening bid price of £100.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253648921121


The above 5-day UK eBay auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head Only with 'provenance' ended a few moments ago, in a veritable snipefest, with 9 different bidders bidding it up from £400 in the final minute. It sold for a reassuringly strong £809.99 after 39 bids.



When I saw this listing for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 'head only' yesterday evening, the UK eBay seller's unusual eBay user ID pinapplehorse immediately rang a bell. It is of course a re-listing; same format as before - 5-day auction with £100 opening bid price. Let's see what it makes this time around, in the light of below .... :/


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm//253709168291


I'm not going to bother copying and pasting the lengthy description over again.

Scan reading it, the new sentences and amended phrases I quickly spotted are:


Re Listing due to a time waster, that headache thankfully now over;

The previous winning bidder opened up the case, so I have added a photo of the movement to the listing, .... (the battery has gone flat since then) and has now been removed, it was removed by previous winning bidder just over 2 weeks ago and had been in situ since 1994.

The watch is not working, please view all photos and read description.


Indeed, you'd be well advised to study the photos, particularly the new one of the movement. It's slightly out of focus, but it's not difficult to spot the acid staining on the back-plate around the battery well - a pretty good indication that the PCB will be toast. No wonder the previous buyer returned it. I certainly would have after paying that kind of money for it. :roll: Not that I ever would - never in a million years ! :P


June 25, 2018 at 3:50 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Yet another speculatively (perhaps that should read spectacularly) :roll: over-priced 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed yesterday evening by a US eBay seller. His 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price is $1625 !! It's being offered to potential buyers outside USA through eBay's dysfunctional GSP programme, which if you're stupid enough to hit the Buy-it-Now button, will add a further $475 in charges on top !! :o


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223031228342



For sale is my Seiko RAF Gen 1 chronograph on a new Haveston canvas strap.

DESCRIPTION

The 7A28-7120, Gen 1 was first issued to British pilots in October 1984 and was not replaced until November 1990. This watch was issued on 1989 as shown on the caseback.

The watch sale history I have is the previous seller pricked it from the RLT Watch Forum in 2007 from an ex-RAF member that received it from an RAF pilot. I’m sorry I don’t have any documented proof, just sharing what was shared with me. I also have no reason to fabricate any story.

Seiko stamped a “circle P” on the dial, indicating that Promethium – a mildly radioactive man-made element – was used to illuminate portions of the dial and hands. On the caseback are stamped the NATO stock numbers, as well as the watch’s individual issue number and year of issue. The broadarrow symbol indicates that the watch was property of the Crown and did not belong to an individual soldier or sailor.

Like all Seiko 7A28 models, the Gen 1 has a well-designed, functional chronograph with the stopwatch indicators arranged efficiently around the dial. The 3:00 o’clock register measures 1/10thsof a second, while the large center hand ticks incremental seconds. The 9:00 o’clock register records chronograph minutes up to 30. Time is displayed with standard center hour and minute hands and a continuous seconds hand in the bottom register.

CONDITION

The watch has normal wear appropriate for the age. There are light buffing scratches throughout, and several deeper scratches you can see in pics.

You can see where the fixed bar at 12 o’clock is bent slightly, but intact. The fixed bar at 6 is almost straight.

The watch had the crystal, gasket and battery replaced last year. The original crystal and gasket are included.

FINE PRINT -

• PayPal Only

• US Sales

• Shipping included US and Global Ship Program


June 25, 2018 at 4:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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UK eBay seller pinapplehorse’s re-listed auction for his 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 ‘with provenance’ and as it transpired, a battery acid damaged movement, ended yesterday evening, selling for rather less this time around: 300 Quid less in fact - making ‘only’ £510 after 20 bids. That’s still a heckuva lot of money to pay, in my mind, for what now amounts to little better than a project watch. But Hey Ho, what do I know - or care. :P If people are daft enough, let em' …. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253709168291

June 30, 2018 at 12:47 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 'head only' was listed earlier this afternoon, by a UK eBay seller, as a 5-day auction, with a sensible opening bid price of £400.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302790162141



Seiko 7A28-7120, Gen1, RAF Pilot/Aircrew Military issue, NSN 6645-99-7683056 (1990).

I am the second owner of this watch. I will describe it the best I can. Perfect working order, given to me as a gift and was used daily both on operations and normal use by the previous owner.

Has the usual fair wear and tear marks for its age, but the glass is scratch free (I've tried to show condition in photographs).

It has had a new battery installed and pressured tested this year and it is now boxed complete with military issued watch strap.

Please DO NOT bid if you have less than 5 feedbacks.


July 1, 2018 at 10:53 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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