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hi_bri
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Brian's original topic title 'My 7A38-7120' edited by Admin.


Recently posted on the newbie section about my 7A38-6090 that wasn't in the greatest condition but my local watchmaker was able to service it and get it up and running.

I kinda fell into the 7Axx chronographs while collecting Credor Phoenix on Yahoo Japan and wanted to share my "crown jewel".  A 7A38-7120 Titanium.

Stumbled upon this recently Japan auction description from seller was that he had bought it oversees, maybe wore it once and left it in storage for about 20 years.

It was priced quite high, but I went ahead and bid for it despite the clear description that it was not running.

When I received it it was in pristine shape, battery was dead and replacement only made it vibrate.  I didn't panic, as having seen how robust my other chrono was, I just brought to my watchmaker who cleaned up the hardened oils and it's now running great.  Very impressed how servicable these watches are.  So here it is:

Box:

Inside - now I wish  for tags and the manual as it only came with box and warranty booklet:


The reveal:


In great shape:



Bracelet in good shape and sized already to my wrist.


Caseback:


Obligatory wrist shot:


The only scratch is on the bracelet near the opening of the latch:


I have to admit this is one of the better condition vintage watches in my possession and it was worth the extra cost up front.  It would be nice to have a 7a38 manual to pair up with this if anyone has an extra they are willing to sell.


Not sure how common the 7A38-7120 Titanium is as I could only find a few post here on it.   Regardless, I think it's a fine watch.


Cheers,

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-Brian

July 9, 2016 at 12:24 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Hi, Brian. Thanks for posting. :)


You're correct in stating that there are currently only a few posts on the forum about the Titanium 7A38-7120.

They're mostly included in these three threads:


http://www.seiko7a38.com/apps/forums/topics/show/7551896

http://www.seiko7a38.com/apps/forums/topics/show/9053333

http://www.seiko7a38.com/apps/forums/topics/show/13031076


We don't (as yet) have a dedicated model specific thread for the Titanium 7A38-7120.

So as you've kindly posted photos of your pristine example, I thought this would be a good opportunity to start one. ;)

Presently, if it's OK with you, I'll edit your original topic title; add a few more posts and move it to the relevant forum section.


July 9, 2016 at 4:18 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Here's where Brian's 7A38-7120 was listed on Yahoo Japan in May:


http://page24.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q115151008

デッド レアSEIKO海外モデル7A38-7120クロノ チタニウム/逆輸入



Google translates the relevant part of the seller's Japanese description as follows: 

 

It is something that was purchased abroad in April 1993. Only a try, did not use even once.

The battery has expired, the instruction manual has been lost.

Accessories will be in the box and warranty card (English, French, Chinese).

Outer box (made of carboard) is dirty, and the like.

Because it was kept still in its box, but there is no especially conspicuous damage,

Since it is a thing of more than 20 years ago, more nervous and even a little worrying please refrain from the tender.

※ after / of the title is the search for the word.


As you can see from the ended YJ auction link, Brian paid the opening bid price of 38,000 Yen for it - equivalent to approx. $378 US.

I suspect there were proxy bidding service commission charges on top of that. 



This may have been the second time it had been re-listed. I did see it when it first appeared on Yahoo Japan auctions; checking my photo folders I actually saved the three images from the listing on 30/04/16. Thought about it a few times, myself. But apart from the price and the usual concerns about buying a 'non-runner', I really couldn't justify buying another - even though this example was in better cosmetic condition than my own. :/


So well done to you, Brian. 


July 9, 2016 at 4:40 AM Flag Quote & Reply

hi_bri
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Thanks for chiming in.

I was going to pass on this one given it was not working and the price seemed high after reading your old posts.

However, now that I have it working and having seen it's condition in the flesh, I think it was worth the price. :)

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-Brian

July 9, 2016 at 12:44 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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I've had at least two of these pass through my hands (lesser examples, quickly sold on - one fitted with a non-original bracelet).

These are original hi-res photos, taken by the seller, of the one I've kept - purchased on eBay Germany, back in August 2009.

(The images posted in the eBay listing were much smaller - 500x500 and 500x375).



July 9, 2016 at 3:01 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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To answer Brian's question: Not sure how common the 7A38-7120 Titanium is ....

They're not particularly rare; relatively common in fact. They seem to crop up for sale mostly in Europe, often on eBay Germany. 

I don't think I've ever seen one listed on Yahoo Japan before - naturally, being an export model. As the Japanese seller stated, he purchased it abroad. What is unusal is to find one (anywhere) in pristine almost NOS condition, like Brian's. The laquered bezel easily picks up nicks and scratches and the complicated (multi-part link) bracelet is both prone to wear on the gold-plated ornaments and lateral stretching, sometimes leading to breakage - which is why like many other 7A38's you'll see them fitted with a variety of incorrect replacement bracelets or straps.


July 9, 2016 at 3:02 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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I'm not about to 'backfill' this thread with historical eBay (and other) sales over the last few years, but if I remember, there may still be at least one recently ended listing on my eBay watching page. There was indeed .... this example was listed by a US seller in May.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262311602962

SEIKO QUARTZ TITANIUM SAA044J CHRONOGRAPH 7A38 SPORTS 100 3-TONE MEN’S WATCH






I can't ascertain whether it actually sold (as a Buy-it-Now) for $237, as the listing doesn't come up in a search on ended items, for some reason, but it hasn't been re-listed since. :/



You don't need to study the seller's photos too closely to see that the bezel was covered in nicks and scratches, as I mentioned in my previous post. Yet surprisingly, the bezel of this other example, which was listed on eBay Germany in May, fitted with a rubber 'Dive' strap in place of the original Seiko p/n B1355C bracelet, appeared almost pristine by comparison. Perhaps it had been polished ? :/


Seiko Quartz Chronograph Titanium Sports 100 Day/Date 7A38 7120 RAR !!



Seiko Quartz Chronograph Titanium Sports 100 Day/Date 7A38 7120 RAR !!

ANALOG / Quartz -Neue Batterie

Kautschuk Armband -Schwarz 

Vintage 80-er Jahre 

guter gebrauchter Zustand mit altersbedingten Gebrauchsspuren. voll funktionstüchtig

Siehe Originalfotos !

Da Privatverkauf , keine Garantie , keine Rücknahme,keine Gewährleistung.

Die Ware wird unter Ausschluss jeglicher Gewährleistung und Garantie verkauft.


It sold for 103.15 Euros (approx. £87.82) after 26 bids.



July 9, 2016 at 3:04 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Reserved for Buyer's Guide and Specification. 



July 10, 2016 at 6:11 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This titanium 7A38-7120 was listed yesterday evening by a UK seller. Generally it appears to be in pretty decent cosmetic condition - that is apart from some heavy looking scratches to the vulnerable laquered bezel - a common problem with this model.


He's asking what I think is a somewhat over-optimistic £245 for an opening bid. Yes, he may well have paid £359 for it back in 1985*. I don't have a Seiko UK price list that includes this model, but I know that in 1985, the German R.R.P. for the equivalent 7A38-7130 model was 1295 DM and the JDM 7A38-7030 was a whopping 100,000 Yen (the most expensive 7Axx). But in those days Titanium watches were still something of a novelty and Seiko's marketing people clearly pitched them accordingly. Nowadays they're less popular, particularly fussier dressy models like the 7A38-7120, so the seller may have to adjust his expectations. :/


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252637454949



*Note the seller states '1984' in a couple of places - the case-back serial number shows it was manufactured in June 1985.


Pity about his choice of link in the description. :roll:

Something like this thread or even the YouTube video of a 1986 TV advert featuring a 7A38-7120 might have been more apt.

That's where the words in my signature come from, incidentally. 

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Some watches are made to last only as long as they are fashionable. 
Some watches simply aren't made to last.
Seiko watches are designed to withstand the ravages of both time and fashion. Some day, perhaps, all watches will be made this way.
November 16, 2016 at 6:59 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I'd omitted to update the thread with the outcome of the above eBay auction for a Titanium 7A38-7120. No great surprise, to me, there were no bids placed and it went unsold. Indeed, the seller re-listed it twice more in the first half of December, again for 10 days each time, with the same wishful opening bid price of £245 and got exactly the same result. Nada. :roll:


He re-listed it again yesterday for a third time, initially with the same opening bid price of £245, so I sent him a brief message, pointing him in the direction of this thread. :P

He's since reduced the opening bid price to £225, which is at least a step in the right direction - and corrected the dates to 1985.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252700263838

December 29, 2016 at 1:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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That UK eBay seller has doggedly continued to re-list his Titanium 7A28-7120 at the same wishful £225 opening bid price, for ten days at a time - with predictably the same result - no takers. His latest current re-listing has less than 2 days to run.


Meanwhile, earlier today, around lunchtime, a potential bargain 'fixer upper' appeared briefly, listed by a UK eBay seller. The photos weren't the best, but evidently all it needed was a pusher button and a new pair of spring bars - and a good clean.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252761048938


Seiko 7a38 titanium chronograph watch .watch has a push pin missing shown in picture watch is running keeps time + date very accurate.


It sold as a Buy-it-Now for £70 a couple of hours later.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252761048938


February 8, 2017 at 4:02 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at February 8, 2017 at 4:02 PM

That UK eBay seller has doggedly continued to re-list his Titanium 7A28-7120 at the same wishful £225 opening bid price, for ten days at a time - with predictably the same result - no takers. His latest current re-listing has less than 2 days to run.



Predictably that re-listing ended with the watch unsold yet again. :roll: But checking my eBay watching page, I noticed the would-be seller ended his most recent 10-day re-listing early, yesterday afternoon, marking it as 'the item is no longer available'.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252774788421



Whether this means he withdrew it, because he wasn't prepared to drop his price below £225, or he succumbed to a lower 'back door' offer outside eBay - your guess is as good as mine. :/


February 18, 2017 at 9:40 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This titanium 7A38-7120, with a badly chipped crystal (and generally in need of some TLC) was listed yesterday by a German eBay seller as 'spares or repair', in a job lot with an even more battered 7A38-704C, fitted with a non-original stainless bracelet.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292078566042



Seiko 7A 38 704C und 7A38 7120 Beide liefen bis die Batterien alle waren. An beiden die Armbänder defekt. Bei der 704 wurde einmal ein Omega Stahlband angebracht. Bei dieser Uhr war die Batterie korrodiert und der Minuspol ist weg. Ferner ist das Glas stark zerkratzt. Bei der 2071 ist das Glas bei 6 Uhr eingebrochen. Das original Band ist am Stoß defekt. Das Werk hat wohl keinen Schaden, da die Batterie noch OK, aber leer war. Verkaufe die Ware ausdrücklich als defekt, Ersatzteilträger. Kann keine Garantie geben, daß die Werke jetzt noch laufen. Die Uhren lagen Jahre in der Schublade. Privatverkauf. Keine Garantie oder Rücknahme.


April 7, 2017 at 6:44 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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It would be remiss of me not to mention that Italian based German eBay seller contintasca (forum member Christian) is currently listing a NOS p/n 8234.0463 bezel. Note these come without the gold plated decorative ring, which is a separate component.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232292368074



RARE Seiko Bezel 82340463 for 7A38-7120 Titanium Model.

Discontinued item. Unique opportunity to grab one of these!

I ship worldwide.

ALL european bidders pay 7 Euros

ALL extra-european bidders pay 9 Euros


April 7, 2017 at 6:56 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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That German eBay auction for a 7A38-7120 in need of some TLC (including a battered 7A38-704C in the lot) ended yesterday evening, selling for 96 Euros after 18 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292078566042


April 14, 2017 at 6:55 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This average worn condition Titanium 7A38-7120 was listed earlier this evening by a German eBay seller, as a low start auction, with an opening bid of 1 Euro. Pity about the badly scratched butchered case-back. :/


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142418659577



Zum Verkauf steht eine gebrauchte, funktionsfähige Seiko Armbanduhr.

Der Gehäusedurchmesser beträgt ca. 36mm.

Die Uhr wurde getragen und sie weist altersbedingte, sichtbare Gebrauchsspuren auf.

Das Glas und die Rückseite sind zerkratzt.

Solange kein Gebot vorliegt, ist ein Sofortkauf möglich.

Bezahlung und Versand:

Als Versandoption biete ich Ihnen das Hermes S-Paket für 4,89 Euro (versichert bis 500 Euro) oder Dhl-Paket bis 2kg für 4,99 Euro bzw. bis 5kg für 5,99 Euro (jeweils bis 500 Euro versichert).

Der Artikel muss innerhalb von 3 Tagen nach Auktionsende bezahlt werden. Andernfalls erfolgt eine Meldung an ebay.

Bei mehreren ersteigerten Artikeln fallen die Versandkosten einmal an.

Ich versende bzw. verkaufe ausnahmslos nicht ins Ausland. Der Versand erfolgt lediglich innerhalb Deutschlands.

No international shipping. Only Germany.


June 18, 2017 at 2:33 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above German eBay auction for a Titanium 7A38-7120 ended earlier this evening, selling for a mere 43.50 Euros after 12 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142418659577


IMO, the disappointing result wasn't any reflection on the watch's condition. More a consequence of the foolhardy German seller having listed three other 7A38's on eBay, all ending within a 15 minute timeframe - and excluding bidders from 'Ausland'. None of them made better than £50. :roll:


June 25, 2017 at 4:52 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This titanium 7A38-7120 was listed yesterday by a German eBay seller, with a possibly over-optimistic Buy-it-Now price of 175 Euros. Overall the watch looks to be in fairly reasonable cosmetic condition, apart from a badly scuffed decorative bezel, which you typically find in used examples.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122783131987



Seiko 7A38-7120 Titanium Sports 100 aus April 1987 im Originalzustand - all original!

International Bidders are welcome.

Im guten Originalzustand mit Gebrauchsspuren an Gehäuse, Glas und Armband, wie auf den Fotos abgebildet. Volle Funktionalität... Day-Date, Chronograph-Funktion inclusive Nullstellung alles wie es soll. Originales Armband mit 5 links und 2 endlinks, somit auch für große Handgelenke geeignet.


Edit: A quick browse on UhrForum.de reveals the seller (using a different name 'Mokka') had offered it for sale on there a couple of days earlier, with an asking price of 220 Euros (including DHL shipping). Presumably now withdrawn. 


http://uhrforum.de/seiko-7a38-7120-titanium-sports-100-april-1987-a-t327875

[Erledigt] Seiko 7A38-7120 Titanium Sports 100 April 1987




The 9 embedded photos are the same as those (10) used in the eBay listing.


October 31, 2017 at 7:46 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The German eBay seller ended the above Buy-it-Now listing for his titanium 7A38-7120 yesterday evening. Presumably the error was in the pricing.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122783131987



He re-listed it soon afterwards as a 10-day auction with an opening bid price of 1 Euro.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122789203138


November 3, 2017 at 6:27 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above German eBay auction for a titanium 7A38-7120 ended a couple of minutes ago, selling for 133 Euros after 19 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122789203138


November 12, 2017 at 2:03 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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