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Scottswatches
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Hi all, 

My latest is one of the PVD 7A38's with gold highlights.  Does anyone have a picture from the catalogue or an advert?  Mine is from 1987 if that helps.


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October 22, 2017 at 10:49 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Hi, Scott.

I have this illustration cropped from Page 2 of the 1987 Seiko UK catalogue.




The R.R.P. in the (separate) UK 1987 pricelist was £195.


October 22, 2017 at 11:33 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Here's an old photo (taken in 2009) of my almost mint / NOS example, that I've posted elsewhere on the forum (in a couple of other threads). Most recently here.



October 22, 2017 at 11:44 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Scott. I guess given the timing of your 'latest' arrival, the 7A38-7180 you bought may be this one, which was first listed by a UK eBay seller about a month ago.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162678497857

SEIKO SPORTS CHRONOGRAPH-7A38-7180 ST STEEL/BLACK



Seiko sport chronograph watch

Steal (sic) good condition fits 18.5 CM

Watch working keeps good time

Chronograph sets rest all functions are working

Condition good with light scratches from daily use

Questions please ask

If you live in UK you will receive the watch next day delivery Thank you for watching and please look to my watch selection

Sale number 35


It doesn't actually appear to have sold over the course of the 30-day listing, but then again, it hasn't been re-listed since. Post facto offer perhaps ? ;)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162678497857

October 22, 2017 at 12:50 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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I'm not about to start back-filling this thread with lots of photos and past auction results for this model, as I've done in other 7A38-xxxx model specific topics - because these watches turn up on eBay quite regularly, especially in the UK - though their cosmetic condition can vary, particularly in the levels of rubbing wear to the vulnerable black coating. This is probably not a good omen for my doing so anyway. I thought I'd just mention that there was another 7A38-7180 listed by a UK seller in September, about a week before that one. It came fitted with a black 'Rallye' style leather strap, but the original Seiko p/n B1412D bracelet was also supplied loose.




Strangest thing though, it appears to have dropped off my eBay watching page already - and I can't find any trace of it in eBay history either. :/ So if anyone can provide any more information - i.e. the eBay item #, please drop me a PM and I'll update this post with details. ;)


October 22, 2017 at 1:16 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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In terms of what's currently on offer on eBay, there's this: an average worn condition example of a 7A38-7180, first listed by a Dutch eBay seller back in August, with a risibly over-optimistic 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of 300 Euros (and no 'Make Offer' option). Gotta smile about the somewhat belated addition of a case-back protection sticker. Off centre too. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332361699813



Seiko Chronograph Quartz 7A38-7180

Has been provided of a new battery.

Vintage.

Diameter is 37,0mm.

Serial number: 611204

Watch runs.

Sold as is.


October 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Then there's this one, offered a week ago by a UK eBay seller as a 7-day auction, with a slightly odd opening bid-price of £26.37, which ends in a couple of hours time. Bidding is currently @ £62. Got to take an opportunity to have a poke at Timpsons - irrefutably the UK's worst high street watch botchers. The seller would probably have been wiser not mention that he'd availed himself of their services.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322830580975



For sale is a Seiko Analogue Quartz Watch with Chronograph CAL 7A38--and SPORTS 100 CAL. 7A38 I bought this watch at an auction in 2015 it was very dirty it was not working I had no instructions with it, I then cleaned it up as best I could got a new battery fitted 28/1/17 [receipt is included] at TIMPSON the guy that fitted the battery set the date and time for me. This watch keeps perfect time and as I have tried to show in these photos there are some scuffs and light scratches on the face these dont look too bad when it's on the wrist, these watches are getting harder to find in good working condition the strap is in very good condition with some wear on the clasp the number B1412 is on both ends of the strap at the pin ends. I found the instructions for this model on the Net I could only print them off in A4 size. I dont have the original box or instructions but I shall include the A4 ones in the photos plus the receipt for the battery and should the battery in the watch become slow or any other fault with the battery it shall be replaced at any TIMPSON shop up until 28/ Jan 2018. Any more questions or photos I'll add them as requested. Thanks for looking.


October 22, 2017 at 2:06 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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The above UK eBay auction for a 7A38-7180 ended a few moments ago, selling for £101.89 after 15 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322830580975


October 22, 2017 at 4:42 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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What was it I wrote yesterday, about the 7A38-7180 being relatively common ? :P Here's another typical worn example that was listed on eBay Germany earlier this evening. Although this one isn't typical in all respects. I'm going to do some more investigation into this, because I think I've seen something similar once before. But for the time being I'll go on record as saying I believe this watch is fitted with the wrong bracelet. The section of the links may be very similar, but the gold plated embellishments are much shorter and there are 4 per side, rather than 3. It's got B1127 stamped on the back of the fixing tubes, which makes it a Seiko p/n B1127C - as opposed to correct bracelet for a 7A38-7180, which is p/n B1412D.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302498706943


Seiko Quartz Chronograph - Modell #7A38-7180 - aus den 80er Jahren

Chronograph mit deutlichen Gebrauchsspuren am Metall-Armband - das Gehäuse selber sieht besser aus - das Glas ist unverkratzt (relativ neu) - die Batterie wurde kürzlich erneuert - die Uhr läuft in allen Funktionen einwandfrei - zweisprachige, dreifarbige Tagesanzeige (englisch/französisch), Wochentage weiß, Samstag blau, Sonntag rot - Seriennummer 670784 - die Fotos sind Bestandteil dieser Artikelbeschreibung.

Von Privat - ohne Garantie - ohne Rücknahme!

Viel Spaß beim Bieten!

Shipment to other countries on request!


In fact it wasn't difficult to figure out where I'd seen that 'wrong' bracelet before. The seller inadvertently helped make it a very quick bit of research on my part. If you run a search on his other items, you'll see he's also listing a 6923-7060.



No great surprise (to me), if you check the case-back photo of that 6923-7060, you'll see it's fitted with the same bracelet stamped B1127. 8)




I'd hazard a guess that both these watches once belonged the same person. The bracelet on his 7A38-7180 broke at some point. Seiko couldn't supply an exact replacement, so he asked if they could supply one like this. But I may be wrong. ;)


October 23, 2017 at 3:24 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above German eBay auction for a 7A38-7180, fitted with an incorrect Seiko p/n B1127C replacement bracelet, ended about half an hour ago. A single bid had been placed last week - and that's how it ended: sold for the opening bid price of 99 Euros.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302498706943


October 30, 2017 at 2:15 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at October 22, 2017 at 12:50 PM

Scott. I guess given the timing of your 'latest' arrival, the 7A38-7180 you bought may be this one, which was first listed by a UK eBay seller about a month ago.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162678497857

SEIKO SPORTS CHRONOGRAPH-7A38-7180 ST STEEL/BLACK



Scott may not have replied to my rhetorical question here, but he's effectively responded to it elsewhere. On Monday, he posted this wrist shot of his 7A38-7180, captioned: My latest Seiko 7A38 chronograph, in a WRUW thread on RLT forum.



Comparing the rubbing wear to the black chrome plating on the corners of the watch cases in the two photos, I'd say fairly confidently that I was correct in my assumption. Incidentally, although he doesn't appear to have posted it on RLT (nor here), it seems that Scott had taken another wrist shot of this very same 7A38-7180 the previous weekend. Perhaps he'd intended to include it in his first post, when he inadvertently started this thread on on Sunday 22nd October. I'm now almost certain there wasn't any coincidence in the timing of his post. 




It transpires Scott also took a full set of rather more sympathetically lit photos of the watch on the same day, with another purpose in mind. If you'd clicked on that link to his RLT post, you may have noticed (as I did) that Scott uses a different signature on RLT to that which he uses when occasionally posts on this forum.

It reads:

www.birthyearwatches.com

Special time, special timepiece

Scott is now a moderator on RLT, so he's allowed to get away with things like promoting his own website (covertly or otherwise). You see, Scott is a dealer.


Here's a link to his website: http://www.birthyearwatches.com 

This is their highly implausible ethos:

Birthyearwatches.com was founded in order to help people who want to buy a watch that marks a special event.

Sorry, but in my opinion, it was founded to make a fat profit from gullible punters.

Because, no surprise, that very same 7A38-7180 is listed for sale on his website:


http://www.birthyearwatches.com/product/1987-seiko-7a38-7180-pvd-chronograph/


Yours for a mere £349 !!  (incidentally at least DOUBLE what he paid for it).




DESCRIPTION

The 7A38 series of movements are a quartz high water mark. The first to have 1/10th seconds analogue dial ever made, the 15 jewel movements can be completely stripped and serviced.

HOW DO WE DATE THIS WATCH?

From the serial number on the case back we can accurately date this 7A38-7180 watch to being made in September 1987.

CONDITION

Like gold plating, PVD can wear through. So the first thing to talk about is the condition of the PVD, which is 9/10. The top corners of the case have wear, but that is about it. The bracelet has wear on the very edges, but the clasp is good and still has the gold plating on the logo. The watch works well and does not suffer the sticky pushers this model sometimes gets from lack of maintenance (gunk builds up). The JPS colour scheme of this watch perfectly suits the period. The quickset day and date works well. The glass has one small scratch near 7, but is otherwise good. The dial is close to perfect, including all six hands.

This watch will be supplied with our Certificate of Authenticity.

Please see the HD video for more detail: www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmDDnlLwJhw

SIZE

Width with crown 37.1 mm

Width without crown 37.1 mm

Between lugs 18 mm

Lug to lug length 40.8 mm

Case Thickness 10.5 mm

Bracelet maximum length 193 mm

All sizes are approximate

Included with this watch is a 3 month guarantee and free delivery to UK addresses. If you live outside the UK we can still deliver to most countries. Please see our Worldwide Shipping information, or Contact Us.

Additional information

Year 1987

Brand Seiko

Movement Quartz

Model 7A38-7180 Chronograph

Gender Mens

Features Chronograph, Date, Day

Country of Origin Japan

Case Material PVD


Gotta love this bit: 'The watch will be supplied with our Certificate of Authenticity'.
Now where have I seen that before ? 

November 2, 2017 at 6:23 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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This average worn condition 7A38-7180 was listed yesterday evening by an Italian eBay seller, with an opening bid price of 0.01 Euros (1 Cent). It's not in too bad condition, with light rubbing wear to the black chrome coating in the usual places. Unfortunately the seller appears to have preempted Brexit. Although he's set the listing up to ship to European Union (and Switzerland), he's added United Kingdom to his exclusions list. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263336901778


Vendo bellissimo e raro orologio marca SEIKO modello CHRONOGRAPH, funzionante completamente e perfettamente l unica cosa che i pulsanti sono da rivedere in quanto non fanno piu contatto ma ho fatto tutte le prove con il meccanismo fuori della cassa e funziona tutto.La corona fa tutte le sue funzioni ed il orologio carica e tiene il tempo molto bene,ma visto che i pulsanti sono da riguardare-magari servono nuove molle-il orologio vera venduto cosi com e-da mettere a posto,pulire,revisionare o come pezzi di ricambio-AS IT IS-TO FIX IT,CLEAN,SERVICE OR FOR SPARE PIECES (ALL WORKING GOOD BUT THE PUSH BUTONS DO NOT TOUCH). La cassa misura 37 mm,invece la misura da ansa ad ansa per il verticale e di 41 mm.La cassa e in metallo-acciaio coperta in nero PVD,ancora in belle condizioni con qualche normale lieve segno di usura come da foto.Il quadrante originale molto bello e molto pulito come da foto.Ha una carica quartz SEIKO JAPAN calibro 7A38A ed ha la pilla nuova-appena sostituita.Il suo vetro presenta qualche lieve graffio e qualche segno sul bordo come da foto.Il fondello e in metallo-acciaio ed ha la chiusura a vite con presente qualche lieve segno e graffio come da foto,ed il suo bracciale e originale SEIKO,ed e in metallo-nero PVD ancora molto bello,un po usato e con qualche lieve segno come da foto,che veste un polso molto largo in quanto completo di tutte le sue maglie originali.La corona ed i pulsanti anche essi originali.Il orologio e tutto originale in tutto per tutto,carica e funziona molto bene ma da rivedere i pulsanti.Viene venduto da come descritto e da come presentato nelle foto-senza scatola e garanzia,ma se avete qualche domanda non esitate a chiedere e non dimenticate di guardare le mie altre inserzioni.Grazie!Auguro buon asta a tutti e che vinca il MIGLIORE!!!


November 22, 2017 at 5:07 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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The above Italian eBay auction for a 7A38-7180 ended earlier this evening, selling for a mere 56.50 Euros after 17 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263336901778


November 28, 2017 at 4:11 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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This decent example of a 7A38-7180 was listed earlier this evening by a US eBay seller, with a possibly slightly over-optimistic Buy-it-Now price of $360. Unlike most used examples that turn up on eBay, this one is suffering from only minor wear of the black chrome coating - on the top corners of the watch case. Pity about the graunched case-back though. :/


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152857152268


Beautiful vintage fully functional classic men's Seiko chronograph watch.

Inside says Fifteen jewels, Seiko, Japan.

Model number on dial and back case, serial number on back case.

Light scratches on crystal and tool marks on back.

Overall very little wear.

Free shipping, insured and signature required.

Thank you for looking.


January 7, 2018 at 2:56 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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I see the US eBay seller has since reduced the Buy-it-Now price from $360 to $299 which has attracted a few more watchers.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152857152268



Indeed, it seems there's been a whole load of revisions made ! :roll:



January 20, 2018 at 7:35 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Meanwhile another 7A38-7180 was listed yesterday evening by a UK eBay seller, as an auction, with an opening bid price of £0.99. It's probably not in quite such good condition as the previous one, but it's difficult to ascertain its true condition from the poor photos.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192432302485


Seiko Chronograph Quartz 7A38-7180 Vintage watch

Papers: no papers

Condition: In used condition. Watch has markings on the crystal, case and bracelet.

Watch seems to work ok, found at my fathers house while cleaning out the office.


January 20, 2018 at 7:57 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Don't ever let anybody try to convince you that the 7A38-7180 SAA055J is a rare variant. Because it would be a 'con'. They're particularly common here in the UK. Here's another example, in typically worn condition, that was listed a couple of days ago, as a 7-day auction with an opening bid of £0.99. Some suspicious bidding activity by a newly created Zero feedback ID has helped to push the current bid price to over £40. Nice to see it comes with the spare adjustment links and the original Seiko presentation box and outer cardboard sleeve. That stock code label on the end of the box indicates that it was originally sold through Argos.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232640978203



Seiko 7A38-7180 Quartz Chronograph

If you are reading this you will probably be aware of the Seiko 7A28/7A38 movement, which was the world's first analogue quartz chronograph in the 1980's and is now quite collectable. Its highly regarded and has an accurate fully servicable jeweled quartz movement.

I've owned this watch for over 12 years now but never worn it so its time for someone else to have the pleasure of it. It will be fitted with a new Seiko battery battery prior to postage for your piece of mind. The watch keeps good time and all the functions work as they should.

The case and bracelet are stainless steel with a black PVD coating and are in great condition apart from some very slight brassing on the edges of the case and minor scratches on the bracelet from normal daily wear. Much less noticeable in reality than on magnified pictures under LED lighting with my iphone, but I want the buyer to be very happy with this watch.

The Seiko glass crystal is new with no scratches at all.

The black dial and gold hands are like new, but the lume on the hands and index markers doesn't shine for long due to the age of the watch.

Bracelet is currently sized for my 7.5 inch wrist and comes with the spare original links that are unused.

Comes with original Seiko box and outer cardboard sleeve.

Postage by Royal Mail Special Delivery.

Ebay member since 2002 with over 1100 positive feedback so bid with confidence.


January 25, 2018 at 12:54 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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After making those umpteen revisions to his previous listing and further reducing the price to $250, the US eBay seller ended it early, because of an error. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152857152268




He's since re-listed it, as an auction, with an opening bid price of $99 or the option to Buy-it-Now for $240. Should sell this time around - but not for $240. ;)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152875432465

January 25, 2018 at 1:42 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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The 7-day eBay auction for the first of those two 7A38-7180's by UK sellers, ended yesterday evening, selling for £102 after 16 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192432302485


January 27, 2018 at 6:54 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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The re-listed 7-day US eBay auction for that half-decent condition 7A38-7180 ended yesterday evening, selling for $158.95 after 5 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152875432465


January 29, 2018 at 1:43 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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