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Seiko7A38 at July 4, 2020 at 4:08 AM

This well-worn 7A38-7180 was listed yesterday evening, by a Tunisian eBay seller, with a risible 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of 199 Euros, currently without the option to make an offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124246401515


I obviously hadn't been paying close enough attention, but since I first posted about it, last weekend, the Tunisian eBay seller has made a few revisions to his listing for that well-worn 7A38-7180, which include reducing his original risible 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of 199 Euros down to a marginally less ridiculous 149 Euros. He's also uploaded a completely new set of photos.




http://www.ebay.co.uk/124246401515


Comparing these photos with the original set on the previous page, it looks like has also revised the watch slightly. :roll: I was going to write that it appeared he had attempted to polish the remaining traces of black chrome from the bezel. But studying the side on views, I think he may have done worse than that. 


July 12, 2020 at 2:52 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at June 6, 2020 at 3:10 PM

This well-worn 7A38-7180 was listed at lunchtime today, by a UK eBay seller, as a 7-day auction, with a hopeful opening bid price of £100 and a foggy looking set of photos. He may not be much of a photographer, but from his description, he's clearly a master of understatement. :lol:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274389387689


After 3 more re-listings as 7-day auctions, that well worn 7A38-7180, listed by a UK eBay seller last month, finally sold earlier this afternoon for the £100 opening bid price. Had to chuckle at the winning bidder sniping it with only 4 seconds to go. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274419769702


July 16, 2020 at 9:28 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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To my surprise, the well-worn 7A38-7180 listed by a Tunisian eBay seller (see top of this page) sold yesterday afternoon for his reduced Buy-it-Now price of 149 Euros.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124246401515

July 21, 2020 at 3:40 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at July 8, 2020 at 8:35 AM

FWIW (in terms of a meaningful result), the UK eBay 5-day auction, for a large job lot of 'junk' Seikos, which included 2 well-worn 7A38-7180's, ended a few minutes ago, selling for £122 after 12 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174336895904



In another bemusing instance of literally Double Déjà Vu, the winning bidder of that large junk job lot of Seikos, from earlier this month, which included 2 well-worn non-running 7A38-7180's, listed them again himself, yesterday evening, in a smaller job lot, as a 7-day auction, with an opening bid price of £0.99. I'm not quite sure what he hopes to achieve by it. :/


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203053744833


A selection of watches sold as spares or repairs as I have not tested them, but some are working. 

The watches are as follows: 

2 x Seiko Chronograph watches7A38-7180, one has intact Seiko strap, one has broken Seiko strap.


Other than including both 7A38-7180's in his primary image group shot, the re-seller has only uploaded individual photos of the better (and I use that word advisedly) i.e. less well worn example. Look closely at the first head-on view and recall the candid comment made by the previous seller:


Please be aware that I have fat fingers and some of the above movements might contain errors. Any questions just ask.


Yup - there's definitely something not quite right there ! :lol:


July 21, 2020 at 3:45 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at December 29, 2019 at 3:07 PM

Seiko7A38 at December 13, 2019 at 10:29 AM

Seiko7A38 at August 3, 2019 at 4:57 AM

Earlier this morning, German eBay seller silversurfer365 (a.k.a. Carlo 'ketap') jumped onto the bandwagon for speculatively over-priced 7A38-7180's, listing this average worn example with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of 299 Euros - or the option to make a lower more sensible offer. I doubt that'll make any difference. Like the majority of his listings, I expect it'll be ended as 'item no longer available'. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273954172873


Indeed, just as I predicted, German eBay seller silversurfer365 has continued to play games of 'Hide and Seek' with his over-priced offerings. This one has now been ended as allegedly item no longer available twice. The first re-listing, that I hadn't bothered to mention before, ran from 22nd September to 30th November. (On 13th October, he again reduced the Buy-it-Now price to 'only' 247 Euros.)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274019817760



Quelle surprise (not), it is still available - re-listed again early this morning. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274140598469



.... And so it goes on .... and on. That latest re-listing was ended a couple of days ago, in his customary manner, as allegedly being no longer available.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274140598469


Needless to say, it was back on eBay again, re-listed earlier this evening ....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274168542375


Once again, presumably in an effort to confuse unwary punters, into thinking it's a new listing, he's shuffled the photos around. The primary image is now the same one he started off with back at the beginning of August. :roll:



I make no apologies for the multi-quote. I'm just carrying forward the relevant posts from previous pages, to show the earlier history of this 7A38-7180, which was first listed by would-be profiteering German eBay res-seller silversurfer365, back at the beginning of August last year. I hadn't bothered to post another update before, but he'd ended the previous long-running re-listing (from the end of December last year) on 17th May, once again, as allegedly no longer available. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274168542375



No great surprise, it was back on eBay, re-listed again this morning. The Buy-it-Now price is now down to 'only' 199 Euros - 100 Euros less than his original borderline ridiculous asking price of almost 12 months ago. Once again, presumably in a lazy attempt to confuse punters into thinking it's a new listing, he's shuffled the order of his photos around again. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274438278268

July 25, 2020 at 8:11 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Yet another well-worn 7A38-7180, in need of a replacement battery, was listed this morning, by a UK eBay seller, as a 7-day auction, with an opening bid price of £74.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114323207852



Seiko Chronograph Quartz 7A38 7180. Condition is Used. Dispatched with Royal Mail 2nd Class. 

The 7A38 series of movements are a quartz high water mark. The first to have 1/10th seconds analogue dial ever made. 

Wear to strap, scratches on face, needs new battery.


July 26, 2020 at 7:51 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The 7-day auction for a slightly smaller job lot of non-running Seiko watches, which included two well-worn 7A38-7180's, by a UK eBay re-seller (see my post higher up this page) ended a few moments ago, selling for £48.99 after 9 bids - FWIW, that's less than half the £122 the re-seller had paid for the much larger original job lot.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203053744833


July 27, 2020 at 2:16 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at December 29, 2019 at 6:48 PM

This 7A38-7180, suffering from degraded lume and tarnished hands, fitted with a cheap leather strap in place of the original bracelet, was listed earlier this evening, by a US eBay seller, with a risibly over-optimistic 'pie-in-sky' Buy-it-Now price, with the option to make an offer. It's being offered through eBay's dysfunctional GSP programme, which if it did actually work for Seiko's, would potentially add nearly another $100 bucks on top. Not 'NICE' - by any stretch of the imagination. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254466770164


It's hardly surprising, how long some of the poorer examples of 7A38-7180 on eBay take to sell, particularly if they're stupidly speculatively overpriced by greedy sellers. This distinctly NOT NICE example, fitted with a cheap leather strap, in place of the original bracelet, listed by a US eBay seller in late December last year, finally sold early this morning, having taken over 6 months to find a less discerning (possibly short-sighted) buyer, who was only the second to make an offer, since the seller reduced the opening bid price at the beginning of July. Incidentally, through the duration, the listing had received over 3000 views.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254466770164


Even then, it didn't sell for the reduced Buy-it-Now price of $165, but as revealed by the alternative 'true selling price' link, for a best offer of $155. Stll too much, IMHO.


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewitem&item=254466770164


August 2, 2020 at 2:51 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The most recent 7-day UK eBay auction for a well-worn 7A38-7180 ended a few moments ago, selling for £83 after 3 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114323207852

August 2, 2020 at 4:57 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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I'm a couple of days behind with posting, so please accept apologies for lateness. No, on second thoughts, please accept my apologies for blighting this thread with yet another piece of badly photographed tired junk. This well-worn 7A38-7180, fitted with a cheap leather strap in place of the original bracelet, was listed two days ago, by a US eBay seller, as a 7-day auction with an opening bid price of $50. Personally I can't see any aspect of this watch that could realistically be called 'NICE'. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293694733781



SEIKO,1987, LCD,ANALOG..QUARTZ CHRONOGRAPH, WATCH,7A38-7180,BLACK, NICE. Condition is Pre-owned. Watch is in good cosmetic condition. Has genuine leather band. All functions seem to be working fine but this is a used watch so I cannot guarantee operation or longevity.


August 19, 2020 at 3:54 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This well-worn 7A38-7180, fitted with an after-market replacement black chrome bracelet, was listed yesterday afternoon by a UK eBay seller, with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of £185 and the option to make an offer. Or should I more correctly say, it was re-listed. ;)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224122491486



Gents Vintage Seiko 7A38-7180 Chronograph Watch.. Condition is Used. Dispatched with Royal Mail 2nd Class Recorded.This item was listed back in Nov 2019 and de-listed as I thought I had a issue with the Chrono not resetting. I have discovered since that all buttons function perfectly and the hands reset to there correct position. The watch comes without the box, manual or original black and gold strap, but is fitted with a Black Seiko bracelet. It has a lifetime battery guarantee and a new glass was fitted by Seiko UK 10 months ago. This is a nice vintage watch that keeps perfect time. Thank you for viewing and your interest.


Note the seller's statement: This item was listed back in Nov 2019 and de-listed.

That's not strictly true. This seller has made a couple of previous attempts to sell this watch, starting in the first week of October last year, when he originally listed it with a borderline ridiculous Buy-it-Now price of £275. See following multiple quote from page 8 of this thread ....


August 19, 2020 at 4:01 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at November 25, 2019 at 3:18 AM

Seiko7A38 at November 17, 2019 at 4:36 AM

Seiko7A38 at October 5, 2019 at 8:53 AM

This rather more well-worn example, fitted with a non-original replacement bracelet, was listed this morning, by a UK eBay seller, with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of £275, or the option to make a much lower, more sensible offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223693686905


He re-listed it, nearly an hour later, now as a 7-day auction, with an opening bid price of £58 (with a reserve set), or the option to Buy-it-Now for £165.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223753481529


The above 7-day UK eBay auction for a 7A38-7180, fitted with a non-original replacement bracelet, ended late on Saturday night, with bidding @ £78 after 6 bids - and the reserve price not met. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223753481529


At the time of writing, the seller hasn't re-listed it.



As you can see from the quote, his last attempt to sell it, as a 7-day auction, ran the full listing duration, ending with bidding at only £78 and the reserve price not met. Obviously, nobody opted to Buy-it-Now for £165 either. :roll:


August 19, 2020 at 4:13 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Evidently two potential buyers saw something 'NICE' in those poor quality photos of that well-worn 7A38-7180, fitted with a cheap black leather strap. The 7-day US eBay auction ended a few moments ago, selling for $103.50 after 4 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293694733781

August 24, 2020 at 11:44 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This non-working 7A38-7180, in typical average well-worn cosmetic condition, that has evidently been messed about with by some ham-fisted amateur, was listed in the early hours of this morning by a UK eBay seller, as a 5-day auction with an opening bid price of £0.99.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313208729265


Seiko Chronograph Quartz 7A38 7180, watch case and bracelet is in fair condition for age,dial and hands in decent condition as well, the minute hand is bent at the start but this can probably be corrected. The movement is decent cosmetic condition but is not working, it is also missing a couple of screws. Would make a good project.


September 6, 2020 at 3:44 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Ian Grant
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Was considering bidding on this one should I run a mile?

September 7, 2020 at 4:54 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Ian. In your intro post you wrote: thinking about adding a 7A38 to my collection. 

Unless you're looking for a project watch - something to tinker with and learn about 7A38's, I wouldn't personally recommend this watch. The eBay seller has evidently removed the dial / movement and possibly fumbled it - hence the mangled minute hand and centre seconds finger tension spring. There are two screws missing from the battery positive plate, so it's a fairly safe bet he's also had the anti-magnetic back-plate off, didn't like what he found and screwed it back together. Also the date is not central in the display window, which might indicate a damaged change-over wheel. Even if you could fix the faults and replaced the scratched crystal, with the wear to the black chrome coating, it still wouldn't look anything special. Probably best avoided altogether.


September 8, 2020 at 3:08 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Ian Grant
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Thanks Paul, I'll keep looking. :)

September 8, 2020 at 6:59 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The 5-day UK eBay auction for a non-working 7A38-7180 'project watch' ended in the early hours of this morning, selling for £82 after 27 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313208729265


September 11, 2020 at 1:11 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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It's kind of academic, but when I last went through my eBay watching page, I'd previously failed to spot that the UK eBay seller who, last month, had re-listed his 7A38-7180, fitted with a non-original bracelet, ended the listing yesterday morning, as allegedly no longer available.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224122491486



September 15, 2020 at 3:10 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 7A38-7180 was listed yesterday afternoon by an Italian eBay seller with a Buy-it-Now price of 155 Euros, which may be low enough to tempt any unwary potential buyer. If you are considering it, I strongly recommend studying the photos carefully. The ends of the watch case and clasp show evidence of having been re-sprayed in the past. I suspect the bezel has been too. This same Italian eBay seller braiwa previously sold a couple of deceptively described 7A38 Frankens (3 years ago). Caveat Emptor.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154093239354


 

Seiko 7A38 - 7180, i tasti del crono funzionano ma sono poco fluidi. Orologio perfettamente funzionante in ogni sua parte.

(Batteria nuova messa il 16 settembre 2020) 

Spedisco in tutto il mondo con corriere espresso con tracking number e garantisco un ottimo imballo per prevenire eventuali danneggiamenti dovuti al trasporto.

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Seiko 7A38-7180. The chrono pusher are not very fluid, but they work. The watch is perfectly working in all. (New battery replaced on 09/16/2020). 

I ship all over the world by express courier with tracking number and I guarantee a very good packaging in order to prevent damages during shipping.


September 19, 2020 at 3:58 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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