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Hnek at August 1, 2019 at 6:56 AM

When a grail appears... aaand its gone. Listing only lasted for 3 hours, and I was too late to the party. I contacted the seller and apparently it sold to a lucky person in Denmark. I think the price is reasonable for a NOS of this model. Feels like many ended up in Italy, do you know anything about what markets they were sold to?


Hello, Hannes.

When I started this thread, 7½ years ago, on the first page, under the section:

Specifications and Buyers Guide: 7A38-6000 SAA039J I wrote:

Geography: Seem to turn up pretty much worldwide - particulary in Europe. No obvious trend seen to date.


I think that's still true to a certain extent. But what has also become evident is the sheer number of NOS examples of different 7A38-xxxx models that turn up in Italy. Without checking the alternate language on the day wheels, it's not easy to tell whether they were actually originally targetted at the Italian market. That NOS example was showing MAR (the abbreviation for Tuesday). It could quite possibly be Italian, but then again, it could just as easily be French or Spanish. :/


As indeed could this next example, which is showing LUN in the day window. ;)


August 1, 2019 at 7:10 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Besides that lovely NOS example which sold yesterday, there is currently another 7A38-6000 on eBay, which I hadn't had time to post about before. It was listed at the beginning of this week, by another Italian eBay seller, as a 7-day auction, with an opening bid price of 47.50 Euros. The bidding is currently stalled at 156 Euros.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293170210449



Rare Seiko 7A38-6000 Panda 7A Chronograph [Defect] . Cronografo al quarzo Seiko in rara referenza "Panda". Condizioni estetiche molto buone, segni d'uso normali per l'età. L'orologio funziona ma la parte cronografica ha alcuni difetti: il pulsante reset rimane incastrato. Il pulsante split non funziona.

Vendo come da revisionare.

Seiko quartz chronograph 7a38-6000 Panda. Nice overall condition, some signs of usage but not excessive. The watch works but the chrono function has defects: reset button stuck, doesn't come out. Split button not working.

Sold for repair.


Compared to some of the rougher examples, that featured on the previous page, this used 7A38-6000 appears to be in reasonably good cosmetic condition. The chronograph faults are possibly just a stuck pusher and switch actuator lever, but there is also evidence of a past battery leak, shown by the stain on the inside of the case-back. If I were interested in buying it myself (I'm not planning on pursuing it), I'd also be asking the seller what size wrist it would fit, because from what you can see in his photos, the bracelet appears to be somewhat lacking in the number of removable adjustment links. :/


August 1, 2019 at 7:32 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Hnek
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Thanks for your quick reply. I guess Italians have good taste? :)

August 1, 2019 at 7:48 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Italians have good taste ? I don't know about that. 

Yes to their high performance sports cars. Yes to their women. And of course food.

But No to their politicians, wine and most of their watches. Have you ever looked at some of the horribly garish designs produced by Pryngeps in the 80's and 90's ? And Gucci watches ? Personally I find the Giugiaro designed 7A28's a bit marmite.


I have a theory about why so many NOS Seiko 7Axx's turn up in Italy. I believe that Seiko Epson off-loaded a ton of unsold stock on their Italian distributor, sometime in the early 90's. Same as they appear to have done with the equivalent Orient J39's, most of which have English / German day wheels, but regularly turn up in Italy. ;)

Anyway, getting this thread back on topic.


August 2, 2019 at 1:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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One country where you wouldn't normally expect a 7A38-6000 to turn up is Japan. The SAA039J was an export model - and the Japanese home market had it's own potentially more desirable JDM equivalent - the 7A38-6040 SJS038. which not only had a black dial, but also an English / Kanji day wheel.


But 7A38-6000's do occasionally show up on Yahoo Japan, as did this well worn example, listed yesterday afternoon, as a 3-day auction, with an opening bid price of 29,000 Yen.




http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o333609139





Google translates the Japanese seller's description as follows:


We purchased second-hand in October 2018 and used several times. I will exhibit along with the collection arrangement.

There is almost no domestic distribution.

Function

- It is currently running.

-Although we have confirmed that each function works, it is a product about 30 years ago though, so please bid on understanding that point. (Please consider that there is no waterproof performance.)

-The bezel rotates in both directions. (The rotation was awkward at the time of purchase, so I was cleaned at a repair shop.

Appearance

・ There is a feeling of use on the whole.

-It is pure breath (original bracelet). About 17 cm around the arm.

Accessories other than the main body

·There is none.

I need your help by NC and NR.


It's not difficult to figure out how this particular example ended up in Japan, given the seller's opening statement: We purchased second-hand in October 2018 ....


August 2, 2019 at 1:36 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at October 11, 2018 at 1:09 AM

The above 5-day auction listing for a 7A38-6000, by a Spanish eBay seller ended late yesterday evening, with it selling for the opening bid price of 299 Euros.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153207664786



It was that one. ;) Needless to say, their case-back serial numbers 4O3783 match.



August 2, 2019 at 2:19 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at June 19, 2019 at 4:05 PM

Hardly worthy of mention, really. So I'll keep it short. :roll:

No doubt, a good many readers will already have noticed that bitter deranged Australian eBayer aussiewatches* has resumed his hate campaign against myself and this forum. Yesterday morning, he created 4 bogus listings for 7A38's (two are the same as he used before, one with the same ignorant mistake, just regurgitated with more bile). One of his two new blatantly fraudulent listings is for a 7A38-6000.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123806177114


The title of his listing is of course copied verbatim from the title of this thread. In case you didn't recognise the single photo, it's a very old one (certainly not the best) of my 'Dinky Diver', which I fitted with a non-original Seiko 'Beads of Rice' bracelet, stolen from lower down the first page of this thread.




I would just like to assure readers that I still own my much-loved 7A38-6000 'Dinky Diver' and that I have absolutely no intention of selling it. Unless of course, some deranged fool offers me $2000 Au. for it. That's £1089 in real money, incidentally.


*Amusingly, as something of an unintentional sideways compliment, that raving idiot aussiewatches has today changed his eBay ID to seiko7a38forum !! 



Just to reinforce that point (about me still owning my much-loved 'Dinky Diver'), here's two photos of my two 7A38-6000's, which I posted in the WRUW thread earlier today.


August 2, 2019 at 9:09 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The World has definitely gone stark raving bonkers for Seiko 7A38-6000's !! That 3-day Yahoo Japan auction for a well-worn (ex-eBay) example ended a few moments ago, selling for ¥85,000 Yen after 36 bids. That's equivalent to $797.45 USD / £655.79 GBP and €717.85 Euros (compared to the €299 Euros that the YJ re-seller paid for it last October !!). :o


https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o333609139




PS - while I was refreshing the listing, during the last 10 minute automatic extension period, I'm sure I saw the bidding briefly peak at ¥87,000 Yen, so presumably there must have been a bid cancellation or retraction. Could it have been shilled ? :/


August 4, 2019 at 7:39 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at August 1, 2019 at 7:32 AM

Besides that lovely NOS example which sold yesterday, there is currently another 7A38-6000 on eBay, which I hadn't had time to post about before. It was listed at the beginning of this week, by another Italian eBay seller, as a 7-day auction, with an opening bid price of 47.50 Euros. The bidding is currently stalled at 156 Euros.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293170210449


The above quoted 7-day Italian eBay auction for a 7A38-6000, with possibly minor chronograph faults, ended a few moments ago, selling for 316 Euros after 31 bids.


August 5, 2019 at 5:54 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at August 1, 2019 at 6:30 AM

From one extreme to another. Just after Midday yesterday (UK time), this NOS 7A38-6000 was listed by an Italian eBay seller, with a Buy-it-Now price of 749 Euros, or the option to make an offer. Whereas that might sound a bit expensive, compared to the prices the preceding sub-standard examples have sold for, it's almost reasonable. It's certainly a lot less than some of the ridiculous Buy-it-Now prices that other Italian eBay sellers have tried asking in years gone by.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264415261431


Not surpisingly, it had sold by mid-afternoon for the 749 Euros Buy-it-Now price.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264415261431



Idly browsing Google images on Seiko 7A38, it's becoming more difficult to ignore the increasing number that are hosted on Instagram, despite my intense dislike of 'Soshul Meedya'. :roll: I spotted this photo posted yesterday, by one @sand.sti. Given the evident condition (and the tag string still tied around the 12 o'clock side of the bracelet), I think it's fairly safe to assume it's the same NOS 7A38-6000 which sold quickly on eBay Italy at the end of last month.


https://publicinsta.com/media/B08Kov6ntun



August 10, 2019 at 7:51 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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As far as I can tell, that's the only photo of it he's uploaded so far, but while I was trawling Instagram, looking for more, I found this week-old post by jtarcheology.


http://www.instagram.com/p/B0q70wenhBm/



There are actually three wrist shots of his 7A38-6000 attached to that post:



August 10, 2019 at 9:08 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Speedtimer88 at February 3, 2019 at 1:57 PM

Yeah I hope so, seems so hard to find one! The chase keeps going.


Or is the chase now long since over (for you) ? ;) I wandered from Instagram into another of its many offshoots, pikdo.online and found these wrist shots posted by someone using the Instagram handle @speedtimer88 back at the end of February, which is too much of a coincidence in my book. Thanks for letting us know (not). :(


August 10, 2019 at 9:14 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Funnily enough, while I was scrolling through the images on pikdo.online, this wrist shot, uploaded by another Italian Instagrammer, using the handle @instawatchman, popped up showing as '3 hours ago' - but if you check the dates of the comments, it's clearly obviously from October last year. :roll:


https://www.pikdo.online/media/Bov83awCWLQ



Here's a few more of his wrist shots from earlier this year:



They're all of the same 7A38-6000, although the nasty scratch on the bezel inlay, running down from '50' isn't as clearly visible in every shot. These next two wrist shots, which came up in the same hashtag search are of yet another 7A38-6000, belonging to another Instagrammer @sirsammycooper, uploaded in April last year.


http://www.pikdo.online/media/BhTTAT8HNNf


August 10, 2019 at 10:10 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Last but not least (certainly in terms of price paid), before I quit browsing Pikdo, there's this less than flattering photo of a fairly well worn looking 7A38-6000, uploaded a few days ago, by Japanese Instagram poster @hardplugger1969.


http://www.pikdo.online/media/B01E6VlpV21




I immediately recognized this as being the same well worn 7A38-6000 which sold on Yahoo Japan less than a week ago, for a whopping 85,000 Yen. (See my posts higher up the page.) The World has most definitely gone mad for 7A38-6000's.


August 10, 2019 at 11:24 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Back to the top of the forum section again. It seems that 7A38-6000's are currently very much 'flavour of the month'. This example, in average worn condition, fitted with a leather strap in place of the original Seiko p/n G1157S bracelet, was listed earlier this evening, by a German eBay seller, as a 7-day auction, with a sensible opening bid price of 300 Euros, or the option to Buy-it-Now for 450 Euros, if you're daft (or desperate) enough.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113850529647


Seiko 7a38 6000 super schöne und seltene vintage Seiko.

Uhrengeschichte aus dem Jahr 1984 zum kleinen Preis zu ergattern.

Das 7a Kaliber von Seiko war das erste quartzgesteuerte Analogkaliber der Welt.

Beachten Sie die das Bild von dem hochwertigen Uhrwerk.

In dieser sehr schönen Farbkombinationen nur noch sehr selten zu bekommen.

Insgesamt guter Zustand. Alle Funktionen sind tadellos und der Chrono stellt sauber auf 0 zurück.

Lünette dreht und rastet sauber ein.

Leichte Gebrauchsspuren sind natürlich vorhanden. Vor allem auf der Lünette wie auf den Bildern ersichtlich sonst nur leichte kleiner Kratzer.

Dies ist ein Privatverkauf unter Ausschluss jeglicher Gewährleistung und Garantie. Keine Rücknahme.

International buyers welcome. Shipping costs on request.


August 11, 2019 at 3:25 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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You are the all-seeing-eye when it comes to 7a38's. It seems the world has gone mad for pandas. Is this a Paul Newman Daytona effect? Seems far-fetched, but not impossible.

There has also been an increasing hype of the 7a28/7a38 in the vintage Seiko community at blogs, podcasts, forums, and this is one of the more attractive imo. And yes, the NOS from a week ago went to @sand.sti a norwegian guy, he confirmed when I contacted him by DM. I am still looking for the right one (for years now), and will certainly post here when I do get one.

August 13, 2019 at 5:38 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The 7-day German eBay auction for a 7A38-6000, fitted with a leather strap ended a few moments ago, selling for 405 Euros after 8 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113850529647


August 18, 2019 at 1:52 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Last night, an Italian eBay seller listed a job lot of 6 non-running Seikos, for spares or repairs, as a 10-day auction, with an opening bid price of 1 Euro. The bidding is currently @ 77 Euros. Besides the 7A38-701A, there is a 7A38-6000 'Head Only' included in the lot. The seller's description of their condition / faults is somewhat vague (he pleads ignorance). :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283589185927


August 23, 2019 at 8:12 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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FWIW - not a lot, in terms of a meaningful individual result, the 10-day Italian eBay auction for a random job lot of 6 non-running Seiko watches 'for Spares or Repair', which included a 7A38-6000 'Head Only', ended late yesterday evening, selling for 330 Euros after 50 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283589185927


September 2, 2019 at 2:42 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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