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Seiko7A38
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Seiko7A38 at April 29, 2019 at 12:28 PM

More shenanigans from would-be profiteering Italian eBay seller simone00simone. Earlier this afternoon, he ended the previous recently revised re-listing for the brown-coated 7A38-6020, allegedly because of an error.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113713871716


One would be inclined to agree that there was definitely an error in the pricing.

However, no great surprise, it was back again, re-listed less than 30 seconds later, looking exactly the same as before, with no changes to the pricing nor description.


 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113732237657



Late on Saturday evening, profiteering Italian eBay re-seller simone00simone once again ended that latest re-listing because of an error in the listing. Retrospectively checking the revision history, he'd reduced his previous 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price from 1000 Euros to 'only' 750 Euros just a few hours earlier. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/113732237657


He re-listed it yet again, almost immediately, at the same 'reduced' 750 Euros.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113745575531


That's still a far cry from the 222 Euros (+ 9% commission) that he paid for it, in winning the Catawiki auction at the end of March (full details on the previous page).


http://auction.catawiki.com/kavels/25222903



May 13, 2019 at 1:56 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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This poor example of what once was a brown-coated 7A38-6020, now with most of bezel stripped bare and fitted with a non-original replacement bracelet was listed yesterday evening by a German eBay seller as a 10-day auction, with an opening bid price of 1 Euro. This another case of Double Déjà Vu. The same 7A38-6020 has featured twice before on page 6 of this thread. See details below.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254240093377


SEIKO Quarz Chronograph (7A38)

Bei dieser Uhr handelt es sich um einen der ersten Quarz Chronographen mit analoger Anzeige überhaupt. Das verbaute Kaliber, das 1983 herausgebrachte 7A38, ist im Gegensatz zu den meisten heutigen Werken noch sehr Robust und Wartungsfreundlich ausgelegt und die Totalisatoren werden von unabhängigen Schrittmotoren betrieben.

Das Ziffernblatt ist sehr aufgeräumt, die Totalisatoren zeigen die klassische Anordnung und die Tages- und Datumsanzeige sind in den rechten 1/10 Sekundenzähler integriert.

Die Uhr zeigt altersbedingte Gebrauchsspuren, die Flanken der Lünette ist stark abgewetzt, das Gehäuse ist in besseren Zustand und das Glas ist makellos. Alle Funktionen sind uneingeschränkt funktionsfähig. Das Armband ist für einen Handgelenkumfang von ca. 19 cm eingestellt, lässt sich aber auf bis zu 20 cm ausweiten. Es ist etwas verkratzt, und es fehlt der Bügel der Sicherheitsfaltschließe, trotzedem schlißt sie gut und läßt sich so tragen.

Modellnummer: 7A38-6020 [A0]; Seriennummer: 4D8996 (Dez. 1984)

Seiko Quarz-Chronographenwerk Kaliber: 7A38; Batterie: SR927W [E395/399]

Kleine Sekunde (6 Uhr)

Stoppfunktion - 1/10 Sek. (3 Uhr) - Zentrale Sekunde – 30 Min. (9 Uhr)

Numerische Wochentags- (Zweisprachig) und Datumsanzeige (3 Uhr)

Fluoreszierende Indizes sowie Stunden- und Minutenzeiger

Schwarzes Ziffernblatt mit drei grauen Hilfsziffernblättern und Tachymeter-Skala

Kratzfestes Hardlexglas

Drehbare Lünette mit Minuten-Skala

Edelstahlgehäuse mit verschraubtem Boden

Original Edelstahlarmband mit Faltschließe

Wasserdicht

Gehäusedurchmesser: 43,2mm; Höhe: 12,8mm, Stoßbreite: 10mm; Gewicht: 102g

Ich verkaufe die Uhr, weil ich meine Sammlung verkleinern muss. Die Uhren wurde stehts pfleglich behandelt, ich bin Nichtraucher und habe keine Haustiere.

Versandoptionen:

Ich versende die Wahre standardmäßig mit DHL. Bei dem Erwerb mehrere Artikel versende ich alles gemeinsam und es fallen keine zusätzlichen Gebühren für Sie an. Sollten Sie jedoch mehrere Artikel sammeln möchten, deren Auktionen nicht am gleichen Tage enden, so möchte ich Sie darum bitten mir dies nach dem ersten Kauf mitzuteilen. Damit ich mit den Versandvorbereitungen warten kann.

Das Kleingedruckte:

Der Artikel wird "so wie er ist" von privat verkauft. Mit der Abgabe eines Gebotes erklären Sie sich ausdrücklich damit einverstanden, auf eine Garantie oder Sachmängelhaftung zu verzichten.


It first appeared in March 2018, listed by Venezuelan eBay seller salesxioxs, as a 5-day auction, with a laughably optimistic opening bid price of $250. It really is worth flicking back to check that seller's photos - particularly the one of the rust ravaged movement. The seller re-listed it a few times, gradually reducing the opening bid price, until it finally sold in April 2018 for the reduced opening bid price of $159.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253565681677


It was purchased by the Italian eBay seller pichimmi, who appears to have made some attempt at polishing up the badly scratched ill-fitting bracelet and fitted a replacement crystal. In November 2018, he listed it as a 7-day auction with an opening bid price of 100 Euros. It sold for 151 Euros, evidently purchased by the current German eBay seller wolverine-359.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302951710306

Probably one still best avoided - at any price, if you ask me.


May 23, 2019 at 3:12 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Meanwhile, greedy would-be profiteering Italian eBay re-seller simone00simone continues to play games with his re-listings for his grossly over-priced brown-coated 7A38-6020. Despite there being the option to make an offer on his last re-listing - and it receiving over 300 views in the last two weeks or so, he didn't receive one single offer. So earlier this morning he ended that listing.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113745575531


True to form, it was back on eBay again, re-listed less than a minute later. This time he's shuffled the order of his photos, reverting to his original primary image. He has reduced the 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price from 750 Euros to 'only' 700 Euros, but removed the option to make an offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113765393009



Apart from the small reduction in price, he still hasn't corrected the deliberate 'error' (complete and utter falsehood) from that of his original description:

I think it was purchased and then placed in a drawer and almost never worn.

Yeah right. That's why the once orange bezel inlay numbering and dial printing are so badly faded. 


May 29, 2019 at 3:44 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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The 10-day German eBay auction for that well-worn example of a brown-coated 7A38-6020, fitted with a non-original generic stainless bracelet, ended a few moments ago, selling for 179.88 Euros after 29 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254240093377


June 1, 2019 at 1:45 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Funnily enough, only this morning, I'd looked at Simone's latest re-listing for his still grossly over-priced brown coated 7A38-6020. Earlier this afternoon he ended that re-listing, once again, presumably because of an error in the pricing. He re-listed it almost immediately with the Buy-it-Now price further reduced to 'only' 580 Euros.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113769682125


June 2, 2019 at 10:33 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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This well worn brown-coated 7A38-6020 was listed earlier today, by an Italian eBay seller as a 1-day auction with an opening bid price of 150 Euros. It's been fitted with the wrong sub-dial hands and a replacement movement, with the wrong colour day / date wheels, both of which immediately struck a chord.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163719444124



SEIKO 7A38 - 6020 Seiko QUARTZ Chronograph Sports 100

"detto il cioccolatone" by Giugiaro

orologio usato

funzionate

ma non in buone condizioni di cassa e di bracciale

alcune parti sono state sostituite in passato con pezzi service

orologio non revisionato

il pagamento va fatto esclusivamente con Paypal appena si chiude l'asta e non si accetta il reso, grazie.


This is of course, yet another instance of Déjà Vu. The same well worn brown-coated 7A38-6020 has already previously featured in this thread, back on page 7 ....


June 4, 2019 at 12:12 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at January 2, 2019 at 7:53 AM

This well-worn and somewhat non-original brown coated 7A38-6020 was listed this morning, by an Italian eBay seller, as a 7-day auction, with a risibly over-optimistic opening bid price of 400 Euros. The seller claims not to know anything about the watch's service history, but it's obviously been fitted with a replacement movement at some point. The day / date wheels are silver / white, with black lettering, whereas of course, this model should have black background day / date wheels with white lettering. The original and unique 'tuning fork' style sub-dial hands were presumably damaged during the movement swap, because they've been replaced with plain yellowy orange stick hands off another 7Axx.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173719323753


Uncharacteristically, I seem to have fallen down on the job, in failing to record a selling price for that one. I do know that it was re-listed 3 times, for 7 days at a time, at the same laughable 400 Euro asking price. Whether it may have sold later, off eBay, to the current Italian seller - your guess is as good as mine. :/


June 4, 2019 at 12:25 PM Flag Quote & Reply

M_L
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At some point the price is going to drop to a point I cannot hold out any longer.  Maybe I should start sending offers. :D


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-7A38-6020-RARE-VINTAGE/113769682125

June 4, 2019 at 3:30 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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I wouldn't hold your breath, Matthew. :P


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113769682125


Besides, even with that latest reduction of 30 Euros :roll: Simone's 550 Euros greedy Buy-it-Now price is still more than double what he paid for it, even adding on the 9% Catawiki buyer's premium that he'd have paid on the 222 Euros winning bid.


June 4, 2019 at 4:21 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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A couple of status updates on the two brown-coated 7A38-6020's listed by Italian eBay sellers. (I'd deliberately delayed posting about them for a couple of days).


The would-be seller of that well-worn example fitted with non-original replacement sub-dial hands had re-listed it three times, on a daily basis, latterly reducing the opening bid price slightly to 140 Euros. Still no bids were forthcoming. The most recent re-listing ended on Saturday evening, still unsold. He hasn't re-listed it since.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163724480756



I've lost count of the number of times that greedy would-be profiteering re-seller simone00simone had ended his re-listings for his ex-Catawiki 7A38-6020, as allegedly being no longer available. :roll:


On Sunday morning, he'd revised the latest re-listing yet again, further reducing his 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price to 'only' 500 Euros.




On Sunday evening, he ended that latest re-listing in his usual deceitful manner.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113769682125


Only this time, unsually he didn't re-list it (almost immediately). Nor at the time of writing has he done so. Not only that, but around the same time, late on Sunday evening, he also ended his other two most re-listings for over-priced Seiko 7A38's. But since then (early Monday morning), he's re-listed another watch. So your guess as to what may have become of them, or what he's up to, is as good as mine.


June 11, 2019 at 8:04 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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This is getting REALLY boring now.   'Item is no longer available' MY ARSE !! :roll:

Should be no great surprise (even to me) really, greedy would-be profiteering Italian eBay re-seller simone00simone re-listed his over-priced brown-coated 7A38-6020 once again, for the nth time, this afternoon. È un segaiolo completo e totale. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113780421261

June 12, 2019 at 3:00 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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