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Seiko7A38
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This JDM 7A38-6040 was listed on Yahoo Japan yesterday, with a possibly over-optimistic opening bid price of 35,000 Yen. It's being offered by the same seller who listed an export model 7A38-6010 a couple of days ago. I may be mistaken, but I could have sworn when I first spotted this listing (a few hours before I took the screen prints), it had the same opening bid price of 30,000 Yen. :/




http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j440796221



The listing follows almost exactly the same format as his other one, with further images, including not quite such a good lume shot, embedded in the description:



Google translates the Japanese seller's description as follows:


Seiko Speedmaster Chronograph 7A38-6040 JDM.

Currently in operation.

Personally I like 7A38 so I bought it.

Since it was used normally, there are scratches.

The day of the week is written in Kanji and English. Saturday is blue Sunday is red.

It is a buckle of the Speedmaster's helmet exact three-piece bracelet and speed master notation.

You can not change the conditions after it makes a successful bid.

Because we can not respond to those who do not need evaluation, thank you for your understanding.


July 6, 2017 at 2:14 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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The above Yahoo Japan auction for a JDM 7A38-6040 ended a few moments ago, selling for ¥44,500 Yen (equivalent to approx. $391.90 USD /  £304.50 GBP) after 8 bids.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j440796221



July 12, 2017 at 8:05 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Perhaps I should be a little more circumspect in my use of the expression 'with a possibly over-optimistic opening bid price'. :P

Here's another stainless 7A38-6040 listed on Yahoo Japan auctions earlier today, with an opening bid price of 64,000 Yen. 

I still don't have a example of this model in my collection. I'd dearly like to add one, to complete the 'small Divers' set. Indeed, I'd happily pay up to around 60,000 Yen for a decent example. But I don't think this is the one for me. Apart from looking rather too shiny (as if it's been polished), it appears to be fitted with a shortish bracelet (usual problem lack of adjustment links)*.



http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b267211488



Google translates the Japanese seller's brief description (refreshingly devoid of all the usual caveats) as follows:


SEIKO Speedmaster 7A38-6040

Seiko Speedmaster Chronograph 7A38-6040

Day of the week, with date calendar

Drive is quartz.

It is in operation.

It is an additional picture.

http://yahoo.jp/box/MrgTih


Clicking on that link opens up another window - a Yahoo Japan hosted image gallery - something I've not seen used before.



There are a total of 8 photos, including the 3 YJ auction hosted images - in a much higher resolution (1920x1080 pixels):



*See my subsequent post in the WRUW thread. As the Japanese seller hadn't stated the wrist size in his description, I got my black chrome JDM 7A38-6030 out of my collection box to compare. That watch has 10 links on one side (4 removable) and 8 on the other side (3 removeable). With the clasp on the last pair of adjustment holes, it just gives a wrist size of 7¼" , which really is a little too tight for me, nowadays if I'm honest (I'm getting fat in my old age). This 7A38-6040 has two less links, indicating a maximum wrist size of approx. only  6¾" (171.5mm).


July 20, 2017 at 8:53 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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The above Yahoo Japan 4-day auction for a JDM 7A38-6040 ended with the watch unsold first time around. Subsequently re-listed, it sold earlier this week for the ¥64,000 Yen opening bid price. That converts to a rather expensive $578 USD / £440 GBP.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b267211488



July 30, 2017 at 2:32 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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This 7A38-6040 was listed on Yahoo Japan auctions earlier today, for 3 days with an opening bid price of 50,000 Yen, or the option to Buy-it-Now for 58,000 Yen. I've been proven wrong before, but I think the seller is pushing his luck. Note that although the seller claims it will fit a wrist size of approx. 175mm (up to a maximum of 185mm), the Speedmaster logo'd clasp is fitted with an extension piece (which he omits to mention). In the side view photo the bracelet looks distinctly short of adjustment links.




http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n229120261



Although the seller has embedded a further 5 images in the description, he's conveniently omitted to post a higher resolution version of the photo showing the clasp fitted with the extension piece, which is included in the collage.


Google translates the Japanese seller's formatted description as follows:



September 14, 2017 at 11:44 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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The initial 3-day Yahoo Japan auction for that JDM 7A38-6040 received no bids and went unsold. The seller re-listed it for a further 3 days. It sold earlier today for the ¥50,000 Yen opening bid price, equivalent to approx. $448.75 USD / £330.50 GBP.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n229120261



September 20, 2017 at 12:54 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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This average worn condition 7A38-6040, with not only a short bracelet but possible faults, was listed as 'Junk' on Yahoo Japan auctions earlier today, with an over-optimistic opening bid price of 50,000 Yen.



http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o207352127




Google translates the Japanese seller's description as follows:


Rare ◇ SEIKO SpeedMaster Vintage Chronograph 7A38-6040 Junk ◇

* Please be sure to take a look at the details of the product, please offer a bid after understanding, convincing.

□ Product Details □

□ Brand: SEIKO

□ Product Name: SpeedMaster Chronograph

□ Ref.: 7A38-6040

□ Serial: 495366

□ Movement: Quartz

□ Size □

Case Diameter: About 37 mm

Arm Width : Approximately 14.5 cm

□ Remaining Frame: 0

□ Control Number: 17 -

□ Product Description □

※ bezel rotation OK

※ bracelet No. YA29A (original bracelet)

※ other than second hand / minute hand / hour hand is not working normally

※ Date operated

only ※ main unit

□ Product status □

Since it is second - hand goods, scratches, peeling etc associated with use can be seen

□ Product operation □

· Battery replaced (10/14) second hand is moving

[junk] It is an exhibition by treatment.

□ Condition rank □

☆ CONDITION J


October 20, 2017 at 8:35 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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The above Yahoo Japan auction for a 'Junk' JDM 7A38-6040 was re-listed a couple of times, at the same wishful opening bid price of 50,000 Yen, to no avail. No bids were forthcoming. The most recent re-listing ended on Saturday and at the time of writing, it hasn't been re-listed.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o207352127



October 30, 2017 at 1:48 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Scratch that. It's back again today, re-listed with the same YJ item number. :roll:


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o207352127



November 1, 2017 at 7:17 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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I suppose I should add another update. Three weeks on, that 7A38-6040 is still unsold. It continues to retain the same YJ item number, but the opening bid price has since been reduced to 45,000 Yen. The other difference is that it's now being re-listed on a DAILY basis. :roll:


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o207352127


November 21, 2017 at 12:12 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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I've mentioned before that I personally still don't own a 7A38-6040. It's another of those annoying little 'gaps' in my collection that I've never managed to fill. Made more frustrating because I've got 3 of the 4 models towards making up the 'set' of these smaller size 7A38 Divers - including a couple of doubles. Needless to say I'm still kicking myself over a couple that have gotten away over the years. :(


So I've been looking elsewhere besides Yahoo Japan auctions. I've found one. But I think I'll pass on this one too. This rather beaten up looking example appeared on the SpeedTimerKollection website a few days ago. Asking price is 225 Euros. Possibly not unreasonable, but I want a better example. Plus past bitter experience of this once notorious watch-botching outfit has taught me to stay well clear of their offerings.


http://www.speedtimerkollektion.com/shop/products_id=38249



Note this watch does have a bezel insert - just that its black laquer has been completely obliterated. The lume pip is still there. The most likely reason for the watch not being available until 11th December is that it's probably still in transit from the Philippines to their headquarters in Belmonte Spain, in a bulk consignent of ex-Filipino junk watches. If it doesn't sell first as a 'pre-order' through their website, it'll no doubt appear on eBay in due course. ;)


November 21, 2017 at 12:32 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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As predicted, that well-worn 7A38-6040 offered above by SpeedTimerKollektion subsequently appeared on eBay - a couple of days earlier than expected. Details and pricing are exactly the same as on their website listing.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132427582135


December 10, 2017 at 4:11 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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That 'Junk' 7A38-6040 which was first listed on Yahoo Japan auctions, back in October last year, remains unsold. The opening bid price has since been further reduced to 38,000 Yen and it still appears to being re-listed ad nauseam on an almost daily basis, retaining the same item number.


Earlier today it was joined by another well-worn example fitted with a non-original generic bracelet. It's been listed by a 'Store' seller as a 'promoted item' (hence the reason it comes up twice in the search results) with an opening price of 8000 Yen.



http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h298849448



Google translates the Japanese seller's description as follows:


【Product name】 Seiko Speedmaster 7A38-6040 Chronograph Current status sale

【Comment】 This is Speedmaster equipped with 7A38 released in 1984.

Although 7A38 is rare in many cases, I think that it is rather unusual watch.

【Size】 About 36 mm in outer diameter SS case

【Waterproof】 Waterproof life

【Drive】 Quartz chronograph

【Arm around】 General purpose bracelet. About 18 cm around arm

【Precision · Operation】 Watch and calendar are not problem.

Since the buttons are all fixed, the unconfirmed bezel also sticks to the chronograph.

[Accessory] none

[condition] whole. Use impression equipped. The watch moves without problems, but since the button and the bezel are stuck, it is the current state sale of junk treatment.

☆ We have sent to the Yahoo auction as an antique dealer's business.

Exhibited items will be second - hand goods, including unused ones. Please note the following. ☆

· It is an internal tax. Consumption tax is included in the highest bid so there is no need for a separate burden.

· The product is currently sold. As waterproof tests are not conducted, waterproof is outside the scope of return / security.

· The waterproof notation in the description is a new one at that time and it does not guarantee the actual waterproof performance.

· For second-hand leather bands and urethane belts, it will be out of scope for security and defects such as deterioration, damage, loop breaks.

· Products are selling out as soon as they bid. It does not prompt decision or end in the middle.

· Shipment is black cat Yamato. The carriage is 700 yen nationwide.


January 7, 2018 at 8:14 AM Flag Quote & Reply

hasnon
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I just saw this listing too but seems quite beat up and like you said, with a non-original bracelet.

Didn't know you are also on the hunt for this model, so I'll step away and focus on the 7A38-1110 as I'm wanting a 7A38 with the Kanji day wheel. =D

January 8, 2018 at 9:25 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Another 7A38-6040 was listed on Yahoo Japan auctions earlier today. This one's in something more like the condition I was looking for. The opening bid price was 1000 Yen, but already it's been bid to 25,500 Yen. :/



http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p588772301



Google translates the Japanese seller's title and description as follows:


SEIKO Speedmaster 7A38-6040 Men's Quartz Second Hand

■ Product Description

It is second - hand goods. There are a little feeling of use, small wounds.

Please confirm with the photograph about the state.

Although the battery has been exchanged, it is for confirmation, so it is not a thing that guarantees battery operation at arrival.

The belt comes with the original.

Case width about 37 mm (crown not included)

There is no other accessory.

There may be bruises that can not be explained.

We will prioritize the state of the photograph so please acknowledge and confirm.

It is an exhibition of only the things in the photograph.

If there is a problem (defect not notified) on the item during the compensation period, we will respond by return / refund.

Sorry to trouble you, but please contact us from auction Navi.

[ Junk ] [ current dealings ]

as stated product concerning absolutely. Compensation. Do not do. Please understand that it may be slightly different from the actual color, because the product is beautifully reflected due to lighting at the time of shooting or your monitor, etc., so please acknowledge it so much.

Please see the notice of a successful bid after a successful bid.

* There are times when I am allowed to describe regular holiday etc. in the self-introduction column.


January 9, 2018 at 2:26 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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The above Yahoo Japan auction for a 7A38-6040 ended a few moments ago, the finishing time having been automatically extended by 5 minutes, due to late bids placed. It sold for ¥59,760 Yen after 31 bids, equivalent to approx. $538.40 USD / £392.25 GBP.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p588772301



January 13, 2018 at 8:11 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Checking my eBay watching page I see that SpeedTimerKollektion's 7A38-6040 sold late yesterday evening for the 225 Euros Buy-it-Now price. Cheap at half the price ? :/ Probably not ! :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132427582135


January 13, 2018 at 8:33 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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The Yahoo Japan auction for that well-worn 7A38-6040, fitted with a non-original replacement bracelet, ended earlier this afternoon, selling for a comparatively low ¥16,125 Yen after 12 bids. That's equivalent to approx. $145.30 USD / £105.85 GBP. Now that IS cheap at half the price.

Looking at the high feedback number of the encrypted winning bidder ID, I suspect it was won by an international buyer, using one of the proxy bidding services.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h298849448


January 14, 2018 at 11:00 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Which of course leaves this one, still being re-listed ad nauseam on an almost daily basis, at the same opening bid price of 38,000 Yen. In the absence of any competition, the would be seller has now grabbed the opportunity to promote his listing to #1. :roll:


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o207352127


January 14, 2018 at 11:23 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Seiko7A38 at October 20, 2017 at 8:35 AM

This average worn condition 7A38-6040, with not only a short bracelet but possible faults, was listed as 'Junk' on Yahoo Japan auctions earlier today, with an over-optimistic opening bid price of 50,000 Yen.



http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o207352127



Even that #1 promotion didn't appear to work. :roll:

Having re-listed that 'Junk' 7A38-6040 ad nauseam since last October, most recently on an almost daily basis @ an opening bid price of 38,000 Yen, the Japanese seller finally seems to have got the message. I didn't actually see his latest re-listing while it was live, but it seems that yesterday, he further reduced the opening bid price to 30,000 Yen - for which it sold earlier today. Going by the high feedback number of the encrypted winning bidder ID, it very likely sold to an international buyer, using one of the proxy bidding services.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o207352127


January 21, 2018 at 11:23 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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