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What I've learned so far about this model, the 7A38-6050 SJS058, which is rarely seen outside of Japan, has been gleaned from studying photos and interrogating Seiko's database. One US collector, in particular, is much more familiar with these than I am.


The 7A38-6050 was a JDM model only - hence the block capital CHRONOGRAPH font style used on the dial, rather than the usual italic Chronograph script seen on export models. Visually, it's closely related to the 7A38-6060 and 7A38-6070, which used a slightly different watch case, of similar dimensions, but in different coating finishes. It is best classified as a 'Sports Diver' though unlike the 7A38-6060 and 7A38-6070, it makes no claims to be a 'SPORTS 150' - even the 'Double Wave' case-back merely states 'WATER RESISTANT'. Like it's export model siblings, it's 42.5mm in diameter with similar 30mm double domed crystal. The knurled part of the rotating bezel and finger grips are black chrome plated and the main watch body is a silver anodised finish. According to Seiko's database, it originally came fitted with a leather band p/n GK54A. Something that might not be immediately obvious from the photos is that the pusher button at 4 o'clock (Seiko p/n 80601629) is different from the top two - it's the same silver anodised finish as the watch case, whereas the pusher buttons at 10 and 2 o'clock are polished stainless (Seiko p/n 80601609). A high proportion of the dial's printing is in red, as are the chronograph hands and minute ring. As is sadly the case with other Seiko models (not just 7Axx's) using the same red pigment, over time with exposure to sunlight, this can sometimes fade to pale yellow. 


The first 7A38-6050 I ever saw came up on Yahoo Japan auctions in June 2009. I'm not sure what kind of strap is shown fitted.

Note that although the majority of the dial printing is still red on this example, the minute ring marks have faded to yellow.



The seller's third photo showed it alongside a 7A38-7289 - presumably as a (failed) size comparison - 42.5mm Ø vs 37.5mm Ø.



The next one listed on Yahoo Japan first came up in mid-January 2010 .... with an opening bid price of ¥40,000 Yen (approx. £295) !!

http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h141106979 (long since dropped off history)

 

国内 稀少美品 SEIKO セイコー スピードマスター 7A38 SJS058

 

It was on a non-original perforated 'Tropic' style rubber strap, but apart from a possibly slightly faded minute ring; some loss of black chrome plating from the bezel finger grips, and some tiny blemishes on the bezel insert, otherwise appeared to be in a nice condition.



Note the Kanji symbol (for Thursday) showing in the day window. All JDM models have English / Japanese (Kanji) day wheels.


 

Needless to say, no matter how nice an example it may have been, there were no takers at that price - for literally months on end. :(

After umpteen re-listings, and a couple of changes of photos (the one immediately below is subtly different from the previous set), it was eventually re-listed in the first week of May 2010, with a more reasonable opening bid price of ¥20,000 Yen (approx. £147.50).



The auction finally ended on May 9th 2010, reaching ¥30,500 Yen (equivalent to £225 at the prevailing exchange rate), after 12 bids.


The example which followed in August 2010, was the opposite end of the spectrum - with a worn bezel / insert and very badly faded dial printing, minute ring and chrono' hands - all to a pale yellow. It was also fitted with one of those horrendous 'bund' leather straps. Why do people do that ? Is it in the vain hope that it will draw attention away from what is basically a tatty watch head ?



Better be careful what I say here, because I know who bought it - though it may have just been to re-sell. Note the serial # 550067.

A while after the auction I found these larger sized images (they're 1280x960 if downloaded) on a Japanese blog page somewhere:




It may be a worn, badly faded example, but this photograph shows all the intricate printing of the 604L dial (albeit in the wrong colours).


Probably the nicest example (that I've seen) came up on Yahoo Japan in November 2010. No hint of fading, and with a pristine bezel.

This one came on a 'convoluted' rubber Dive strap. It's difficult to discern the position of the silver anodised pusher in these photos.



I'm presuming that this YJ auction was won by US Seiko collector, Mike Mounce, because less than a month later ....

He offered the previous lesser example bought on Yahoo Japan that August, for sale on the SCWF Trading Post in December 2010:

http://www.thewatchsite.com/8-seiko-citizen-trading-post/11774-sold-vintage-seiko-7a38-chronograph-115-thanks-sctf.html 


Vintage Seiko 7a38 Chronograph $115

Selling a used 7A38-6050 Seiko Speedmaster. 

The same bulletproof movement as the 7A28 only this has the day/date function. 

All functions working as they should and hands line up on minute marks. Crystal, Case and rotating bezel have blemishes

The pushbuttons are working smooth and everything resets straight up. 

I'm asking $115 SOLD shipped in the US.



If, despite the change to a more normal strap, you didn't recognize the watch, by its faded dial and hands and worn bezel insert, etc.,

inverting the third photo from Mike's SCTP advert shows the serial # 550067 - same 7A38-6050 from the August 2010 Yahoo listing.



Heres a photo of Mike Mounce's 7A38 collection, which he posted on SCWF, quote: A few that I have picked up through the years......

http://www.thewatchsite.com/21-japanese-watch-discussion-forum/25671-how-about-7a-feast-sunday.html#post157217

including what is obviously that same pristine 7A38-6050 from the November 2010 Yahoo Japan auction (2nd from the Left):




The most recent example of a 7A38-6050 listed on Yahoo Japan auctions came up on February 28th and ended on 4th March, 2012.

See: http://page18.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w71934912 

SEIKO 7A38-6050 クロノグラフ中古



No strap was fitted, nor offered. Opening bid price was 38,000 Yen (£293 / $464) or 42,000 Yen to Buy-it-Now. There were no takers.

It has since been re-listed many times over - the opening bid subsequently dropped to 36,000 Yen, but was still unsold 2 months later.

February 8, 2012 at 11:29 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Specification and Buyers Guide - 7A38-6050 SJS058

 

Size: 42.5mm diameter (excluding crown and pushers) x 46mm lug to lug x 13.5mm deep - 20mm lug width fixing.

Case material: S/Steel - Silver anodized finish.

Bi-directional 60-click bezel, with shallow knurled rim and six raised finger grips, in Black Chrome finish.

Matt Black bezel insert - with 'Diver' scale and alternating Large / small numbers 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 in Silver.

As with the similar-looking export models: 7A38-6060 and 7A38-6070, the pusher at 4 o'clock is a different finish from the other two.

Dial: Part number is 7A38604LXB19. Dial face is black, with red and white printing. A charcoal grey dial ring carries the lumed batons.

Dial markings: SEIKO (printed) CHRONOGRAPH QUARTZ; (other sub-dial printing); at bottom JAPAN 7A38 604L T Suwa symbol.

Day and Date wheels: White lettering on black background. Second languages seen: Japanese Kanji (only) - JDM model.

Hands: Hour and Minute hands are White (with lume). Sweep second hand and upper sub-dial hands are red with large black bosses.

Seiko crystal p/n: 300WF2HK01 - 30.0mm Ø x __mm thick, domed with polished bevel edge - NLA; no substitutes identified at present.

Case-back markings: Double Wave Caseback; 7A38-6050 [A0] SEIKO ST. STEEL BASE METAL BEZEL WATER RESISTANT JAPAN A

Seiko leather band p/n GK54A. Fixing by 20mm x 1.8mm Ø spring bars.


Production dates: Serial numbers seen range from 540001 to 550699 - April and May, 1985.

Geography: Far East - a Japanese Domestic Market model.


Buyers Tips: Beware of worn Black Chrome coating on bezel; fading of red dial printing, minute ring marks and chrono' hands.

Price Guide: $150 - $450 dependant upon condition.

Rarity Factor: 3/5 - Hard To Find.


February 23, 2012 at 5:07 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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As you can see from the foregoing posts, although there may have been others in the past, I hadn't personally seen a 7A38-6050 listed on eBay - only on Yahoo Japan auctions. That was until earlier this week, when one was listed by a Korean seller 'moo9780'.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200749422547

SCARCE MENS SEIKO QUARTZ CHRONOGRAPH 1/10 SEC DAY&DATE 7A38-6050 RARE SHAPE



 

Description:

 

Beautiful Mens SEIKO Chronograph Day/Date 1/10 SEC. 7A38-6050 RARE SHAPED CASE & BEZEL, Nice working Condition


Year_ 1980's 

Model_ SEIKO Chronograph 7A38-6050 Men's WATCH 

Caliber_ SEIKO Signed Quartz Chronograph Movement. Working & Chrono Function works Properly. 

Dial_ Original Black Matte Dial with red marker. Very Clean 

Crown_ Original Crown & Button. 

Measurement_ 41mm x 45mm Size / 20mm Lug(Band) Size / 12.5mm Thickness 

Working Condition_ Nice Working Condition. All Button works 

Case Condition_ Normal Used Case Condition, Slight scratches on it. Rare Shaped Bezel. Works with click. See pictures for details 

Band size_ 20mm Used Aftermarket Band 

Overall Condition_ Very Rare SEIKO Chronograph Version 6050, Big size Case & Rare Shaped Bezel. Beautiful Dial Condition. 

No box or papers / Watch only, CLICK BELOW PICTURES TO SEE CLOSELY


The seller included 12 clickable high resolution photos in his listing. Many were quite similar, so here's half of them:




As you can see from the seller's superbly clear close-up shots, this was an honest used example. The black chrome plating on the bezel's knurled edge and finger grips had suffered some rubbing wear and the insert was down to the base metal on the edges in places; the minute markers had faded from red to yellow, and the chrono' hands looked more orangey than their original red colour.

April 25, 2012 at 5:28 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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It would have been interesting to see what it might have made in a fair auction. I suspect it probably would have ended in a snipe-fest.

The auction was scheduled to run for 5 days, but early this morning, the high bidder persuaded the seller to end it 2 days early. :o

See: http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p4340.l2565&rt=nc&item=200749422547




As you can see, it was sold to the high bidder for $192.50 (approx £119.20) - rather lower than one might have expected it to make.

The high bidder is actually a member of this forum - though one who has not contributed a single word to date, since he joined. 

Knowing his predeliction for buying low, and flipping for a fast profit, I expect you'll soon see it advertised elsewhere - rather higher.

April 25, 2012 at 6:46 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The most recent example of a 7A38-6050 listed on Yahoo Japan auctions came up on February 28th and ended on 4th March, 2012.

See: http://page18.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w71934912

SEIKO 7A38-6050    クロノグラフ中古

 

No strap was fitted, nor offered. Opening bid price was 38,000 Yen (£293 / $464) or 42,000 Yen to Buy-it-Now. There were no takers.

It has since been re-listed many times over - the opening bid subsequently dropped to 36,000 Yen, but was still unsold 2 months later.

 

Subsequently re-listed in the second week of May 2012, as a new auction with 3 different photos.

See: http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h164010040

SEIKO 7A38-6050 クロノグラフ中古




Google translates the seller's description from Japanese (verbatim) as:

 

Is a Seiko watch. Movement 7A38. (Quartz) was put in hand at the auction in a few years ago, will exhibit almost not use.

After the acquisition, disassembly and cleaning and windshield glass, buttons (2), was to replace the packing.

Is operating without any problems: tone of the clock. There is a wound by using state: the case.

Windshield: curve has been bought. There are no scratches so you replace it.

There is a wound by using: the bezel. (There is a bald painting) is an exhibition of only the main body of the clock.

Because it is used, how to scratch is a concern please refrain. The no claim and no return, please.


Obviously not having learned from his past efforts, the opening bid price is 38,000 Yen (£295 / $475) or 52,500 Yen to Buy-it-Now. :roll:

May 8, 2012 at 5:03 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The same seller 'jin_sigp210' re-listed his 7A38-6050 on Yahoo Japan yet again, with 3 different photos, in the first week of July 2012:


http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e124306088

SEIKO 7A38-6050 クロノグラフ中古



This time around, the prices have dropped slightly to an opening bid of 34,000 Yen (£272 / $426) or 43,000 Yen to Buy-it-Now. 

July 4, 2012 at 7:49 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200749422547

As you can see, it was sold to the high bidder for $192.50 (approx £119.20) - rather lower than one might have expected it to make.

The high bidder is actually a member of this forum - though one who has not contributed a single word to date, since he joined. 

Knowing his predeliction for buying low, and flipping for a fast profit, I expect you'll soon see it advertised elsewhere - rather higher.


Almost exactly as predicted - well, not exactly, because he usually tries to flip his watches through Watchnet.com Trading Post first. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190700505456

Seiko 7A38-6050 Iconic Diver As Rare As They Come Excellent Original Condition

ALL Original !! Fitted With A Diver's Mesh Strap !!


 

Vintage Seiko 7A38-6050 

Excellent Condition Throughout 

One the finest Quartz movements made: See this link for more inforamation about the 7A28/38/48 series of movements.

Case Size ~ 42mm 

Absolute Excellent Condition 

Simply the nicest, original, Seiko 7A38-6050 Example of this 35 Year Old Seiko you will find 

Next to impossible to find in Excellent Condition like This Example! 

Case Has Original Seiko Factory Specs with Satin finish. 

Dial/Hands/bezel/Case/Bracelet Excellent 

Keeping Spot on timing When Worn 

Fitted With Mesh Diver Strap Fits ~ 8" Wrist 

All Functions Crisp and Sharp 

Extremely Hard To Find in this ORIGINAL CONDITION

Good Condition: Please See Macro Pictures For Condition Report. Any blue in pictures are reflections only. 

Check My Feedback and Bid With Confidence !!


Bearing in mind this profiteering re-seller paid $192.50 for this same watch two months ago, his Buy-it-Now asking price is $550


July 8, 2012 at 2:36 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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For the record, that 7A38-6050, bought for $192.50, sold against a Best Offer for $450 (£290) on 11th July, after receiving 10 offers,

apparently all of which, bar that which was accepted, were for $192.50, funnily enough. ;) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190700505456


July 11, 2012 at 7:26 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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What was it I wrote, a few months ago, about never having seen a 7A38-6050 on eBay ? :roll:

Last weekend José 'Watchcooking' Sotto listed one - albeit probably the tattiest example yet to receive a mention in this thread.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360462722508

VINTAGE RARE SEIKO QUARTZ CHRONO 7A38-6050 SPEEDMASTER?



Here's a Seiko Speedmaster? quartz Chronograph, 7A38-6050....43mm


DIAL: Original dial in decent condition. Kanji/English wheel. All functions work.

CRYSTAL: Original glass.

BEZEL: Bezel poor. Chapter ring in decent condition.

CASEBACK: Unpolished case......55......May 1985.

MOVEMENT: Overhauled 3 weeks ago.... watch keeps time.

BRACELET: Plastic strap.


Although José described the condition of the dial and chapter ring as 'decent', both they and chronograph hands were badly faded.

Nevertheless, it still sold for a reasonable $139.50 (approx. £89.43) after 13 bids. The listing received 533 views over the 7 days.

August 5, 2012 at 4:13 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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It has since been re-listed many times over - the opening bid subsequently dropped to 36,000 Yen, but was still unsold 2 months later.


It would appear that by August, the japanese seller 'jin_sigp210' was becoming more eager to sell his 7A38-6050.

Not by reducing his asking prices, but by also resurrecting one of his older Yahoo Japan listings, with the earlier set of photos. :roll:


See: http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h164010040   SEIKO 7A38-6050 クロノグラフ中古

and: http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e124306088   SEIKO 7A38-6050 クロノグラフ中古


Clearly the same watch as before, but slightly different prices on the two listings:  35,000 / 45,000  versus 34,000 / 43,000 Yen.


Edit: the (first) duplicate listing has now been mysteriously removed and ....

the opening bid price price on the remaining listing has since dropped to 'only' 31,000 Yen, but oddly without the Buy-it-Now option. :/

Subsequently re-listed (yet again) in September: http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e124306088, reduced to 29,800 Yen. :roll:

August 6, 2012 at 5:36 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Another 7A38-6050 was listed on Yahoo Japan auctions yesterday, in rather nicer condition than the previous (still unsold) example.


http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g114373342

希少/美品【SEIKO】スピートマスター クォーツ クロノ 7A38-6050




Generally looks in very nice condition, but the minute ring markers appear to have faded slightly, with age, which is quite normal.

The opening bid price is a possibly rather over-confident  ¥38,000 Yen, which equates to approx. $480 / £298. Let's see, eh ? 


From the the number of hits this thread received over the last two days, from (unfamiliar) Japanese IP addresses, I strongly suspect that the seller checked out this thread, before posting his listing - as too have a few potential Japanese buyers, which is reassuring. :)

October 17, 2012 at 7:21 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Oh, boy, do I like this one. I think I've read the whole thread, but none of the photos is from one of your own, right?

October 19, 2012 at 12:30 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Correct, Julio. :(

Anyway, I'd better update this thread. Famous last words:

The opening bid price is a possibly rather over-confident ¥38,000 Yen, which equates to approx. $480 / £298. Let's see, eh ? 

http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/show/bid_hist?aID=g114373342

One bid at ¥38,000, placed earlier today was all it needed - one very nice example of a 7A38-6050 - Sold ! Not to me either. :(

October 24, 2012 at 5:52 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Well, if nothing else, that previous sale seems to have inspired the Japanese seller jin_sigp210 to finally fit a strap to his 7A38-6050.

He's been re-listing it (using various different sets of photos) over and over, since the end of February this year - as just a 'head only'.


http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g120273459

SEIKO 7A38-6050 クロノグラフ中古




However, I doubt that his fitting of a cheap 'rubber tyre' style strap will make that much difference. His asking price is still ¥35,000 Yen

October 26, 2012 at 9:02 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Well you've got to give would-be Japanese seller jin_sigp210 10 out of 10 for his persistent efforts. :roll:

In the latest re-incarnation of his many Yahoo Japan listings for his 7A38-6050, he's fitted a Citizen generic stainless bracelet:


http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m106562469

SEIKO 7A38-6050 クロノグラフ中古




Personally I think he'd probably do better by fitting a decent quality rubber dive strap, like the previous successful seller ....

But at least his latest price reduction, to an opening bid price of 29,000 Yen (approx. £212 / $345)  is a step in the right direction.


December 18, 2012 at 11:26 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Much as I delight in quoting myself. :D

Personally I think he'd probably do better by fitting a decent quality rubber dive strap, like the previous successful seller ....

So what should appear on eBay Germany late yesterday, but a 7A38-6050 fitted with a less than ideally matching titanium bracelet. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171046291223

SEIKO CHRONOGRAPH Second Herren Armbanduhr

mit neutraler Uhrenbox

(weitere Beschreibung im Anschluss der Großaufnahmen bitte beachten!)



Eingestellter Artikel ist gebraucht (siehe weitere Details zum Artikel). Bitte dazu die oben eingefügten Bilder genauestens betrachten, diese sind wichtiger Bestandteil dieses Angebots! Bei den Bildern handelt es sich um Makroaufnahmen, daher können Staubpartikel, Fingerabdrücke etc. zu erkennen sein.

 

Details zum Artikel:

Zustand getragen/gebraucht aus Privatbesitz

Trage-/Abnutzungsspuren am Gehäuse vorhanden, Kratzer auf dem Mineralglas

Armbanduhr befindet sich in einem guten Gesamtzustand

Gehäuse womöglich Titan oder Edelstahl

Gehäuseboden Edelstahl verschraubt

Gehäuse ohne Drücker ca. 43 mm / Höhe ca. 14 mm

Edelstahl Lünette schwarz mit Ziffer - drehbar (Abnutzungsspuren seitlich)

Armband Titan mit Titan Sicherheits-Faltschliesse der Marke "M" (Morellato?)

Gesamtlänge der Uhr (innen gemessen) mit Gehäuse ca. 18 cm

Analog Anzeige, Chronograph, Stoppfunktion

extra Sekunden- und Minutenanzeige

Weitere Sekundenanzeige auf 18 Uhr

Wochentags- und Datumsanzeige (Wochentage in Englisch)

Mineralglas mit Kratzern in Höhe 23/18 und 15 Uhr

Zifferblatt schwarz mit fluoreszierenden quadratischen Indexen

Stunden- und Minutenzeiger weiss fluoreszierend

Quarzwerk - Uhr funktioniert

Ganggenauigkeit nicht geprüft - läuft jedoch einwandfrei

Waterresistant ohne "Tiefenangabe" des Herstellers - nicht geprüft.


Disregarding for the moment the hideous ill-matching titanium bracelet that's been fitted, the watch head itself is in a similar condition to other previous examples shown in this thread: viz. worn black chrome plating on the edges of the bezel; scratched crystal; chrono' hands faded from red to orange; minute ring marks faded to yellow and as usual, some loss of pigmentation to the dial printing.

Having said all that, we've seen a lot worse. Given the fact that these are rarely seen on eBay, let alone outside Japan, personally I don't think the seller's Buy-it-Now asking price of 200 Euros is that unreasonable. So I'm a little surprised it's still there, unsold*. :/

Incidentally the case-back serial # 550600 isn't one we've seen before - but I had to do a 'double take' thinking it might be 550699.

Note also in the seller's last photo, the discernable difference in finishes between the anodised 4 o'clock button and that at 2 o'clock.


*Edit: A little over 3 hours after I'd written that, it was sold for the 200 Euros asking price:


May 25, 2013 at 11:53 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at October 17, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Another 7A38-6050 was listed on Yahoo Japan auctions yesterday, in rather nicer condition than the previous (still unsold) example.


http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g114373342

希少/美品【SEIKO】スピートマスター クォーツ クロノ 7A38-6050




Generally looks in very nice condition, but the minute ring markers appear to have faded slightly, with age, which is quite normal.

The opening bid price is a possibly rather over-confident  ¥38,000 Yen, which equates to approx. $480 / £298. Let's see, eh ? 


From the the number of hits this thread received over the last two days, from (unfamiliar) Japanese IP addresses, I strongly suspect that the seller checked out this thread, before posting his listing - as too have a few potential Japanese buyers, which is reassuring. :)


I've found who purchased that rather nice 7A38-6050 off Yahoo Japan in October 2012, albeit 6 months later than I should have. :roll:

Came across this Japanese blog entry this afternoon while googling: http://synchronar.blogspot.com/2012/11/seiko-7a38-6050.html 


2012年11月8日 (8th November 2012) 

SEIKO クロノグラフ 7A38-6050




A  (straight unexpurgated) google translation of the various portions of text reads:

 

Chronograph Quartz 1980s Seiko This is (Cal.7A38-6050). I'm a beyond the scope of such rotating bezel, the so-called watch diver system, but I've recently obtained ones Because this was good brackets processing of the detailing is a pretty decent.

First, under This image was taken at the time you obtained. Urethane belt with holes so is conducive divers watch smell very much for thick 

I have replaced the belt of thin silicon immediately. Gap of rough Sato watch body is good.

Display of place that serves as the chronograph are unified in orange, is a pretty good feeling. It is a feeling which carried it to condense tightly chronograph eye date, day of the week, three, and rotating bezel, the ability to Show off as a clock. The image below is the front almost (sorry iPhone is crowded reflected), do you say the clock wind of Porsche design of old, do you say the wind made seriously with metal Chrono Plastic SWATCH, brackets feel pretty? Is.

In, it is such and winding the arm. I see several times in the Yahoo auction, and there are quite a lot of painting of retaining part of finger projections of six locations in the rotating bezel's quite bald.

Back is screw-back firm.

Of the same movement, I bought previously 7A38-706A and two-shot. (In fact is the dial of dark blue color more 7A38-706A) There is a coolness original only by the domestic production coolness royal road of the Chrono, the 7A38-6050 on the right 7A38-706A on the left.

I had been through at first sight when I saw the clock for the first time a long time ago, while looking carefully again recently, use the color, the minute hand hour hand of the thickness of the uniform equivalent and simple five sports speed timer system , spherical glass-seen details of the dial provided a step on both sides needle three Chrono for extra-fine with the black circle the center, second hand at 6 o'clock, the body design simple, for the first time in a long time ... bit by bit coolness is descended, it's up to you came to get. 

It was the introduction of the domestic Chrono was obtained after a long time also over,. (Recently, it has become like an blog watch finally.)


More photos (of varying quality), including a couple of close-up shots of the dial are posted HERE on another blog page.


June 16, 2013 at 12:12 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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I'm not sure if this is one we may have seen before*, but another 7A38-6050 was listed on Yahoo Japan auctions yesterday:


http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k167948592

※SEIKO CHRONOGRAPH QUARTZ 7A38※T



As unfortunately is often the case, Google doesn't do a particularly good job of translating the Japanese description:

 

* Material

(unknown) Stainless x plastic x Other * (without belt) Case size  (not including lag crown) x height x thickness mm length: 45mm side: 42mm thickness: 13mm is (amateur measurement I think that there are some differences) so please understand.. * feature quartz 7A38 felt belt use * state secondhand goods case : abrasion etc., etc. Yes by using dial

: Overall clean burnt

: Period suitable windshield

: Overall clean band

: Genuine buckle

: Genuine arm circumference

: MAXMIN cm

after, please check the image. (., Please understand and color so might not be the display and how to take) * Accessories -free * accuracy is enough not to care in everyday life, but for the old ones, those who are worried suggest OH will. (Is the measurement result of the moment to the last.. Does not guarantee the accuracy of after purchase) in the case of rechargeable batteries, battery level is unknown. (Solar, auto, etc. including quartz) products is described junk we do not confirm the operation or the like.

In fact in doing so, it made a complete nonsense of the original text / formatting - and I really honestly can't be arsed to sort it out. 

The significant part is that (in Japanese parlance) it's being described and sold as 'Junk' (hence implied without warranty) ....

Which makes the 30,000 Yen (approx, $288 / £175) opening bid price somewhat over-optimistic in the circumstances. :/


*Edit - No it doesn't appear to be - it's another 550xxx serial number, but zooming in on the seller's photo it's possibly 550173. 


January 10, 2014 at 11:40 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Here's another 7A38-6050 I stumbled across while idly browsing Rakuten.jp. It appears to have been listed since December 24, 2013.


http://item.rakuten.co.jp/7masakiya/241123-12/

SEIKO セイコー スピードマスター 7A38-6050 【中古】



Couple of small dings on the case and the usual rubbing wear to the bezel's black chrome finger grips.

Asking price is 29,800 Yen - equivalent to $288.50 USD / £172.50 GBP.


March 7, 2014 at 2:40 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
Site Owner
Posts: 13327

Here's a 7A38-6050 that was listed on Yahoo Japan auctions earlier today:


http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r116769417

70年代★セイコークロノグラフ Ref.7A38-6050★




 

Google translates the seller's Japanese description as follows:


Seiko Chronograph Ref 70's. It is the introduction of 7A38-6050 men's size. 

Is SEIKO70's domestic goods watchmaker. Model № (Ref) 7A38-6050. 

Case material is stainless steel. It is a 70's goods, but large scratch is good without state.

The bezel will normally rotating chronograph and working properly. Is the reverse rotation prevention.

Belt buckle is a market goods. 

Original dial is a beautiful state with no damage.

The shelter belt is a curve type glass. Light abrasion is seen. 

1,000 yen start selling out. 

All stainless steel case. (Good condition) belt market goods.Buckle market goods. 

I have been working successfully accuracy.  Mechanical quartz (battery operated), has been replaced. 

(Excluding crown) about 4.1 cm in size width lug-lug about 4.5cm.

 

It is cash on delivery from Yu-Pack 60 letter size Fukuoka Pack Plus [510 (face-to-face delivery)] or (510 yen nationwide uniform).

It is safe tracking number. Attaching. Therefore both. There will be borne by the successful bidder. 

Payment ※

Please choose from one of Japan Post Bank Rakuten Bank (e-Bank) simple settlement. It is dispatch after payment confirmation. 

70's products. Please acknowledge it beforehand does not accept returned goods after a successful bid, the exchange. 

Enjoy relaxedly auction. Question to the exhibitor.


It does at first appear to be in well-cared for cosmetic condition, apart from the usual rubbing wear to the bezel finger grips, but ....

The dial printing (much of which should be orangey-red); minute ring and chrono' hands are all very badly faded to yellow and white.

In those respects, this watch is as bad, if not worse than the example which appeared on eBay in August 2010 shown in my first post.


July 9, 2014 at 8:32 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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