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Seiko7A38 at September 5, 2018 at 11:20 AM

It's hard to believe it been almost exactly a year since I last saw a 7A38-6050 listed on Yahoo Japan auctions. So, it's nice in a way, that it's an 'old friend' that gives me cause to update this thread. :) This familiar example, fitted with a non-original Citizen bracelet, was listed earlier today as a 4-day auction, with an opening bid price of 45,000 Yen.



http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d306741484


I'll admit I didn't instantly recognise the watch head, but the Citizen bracelet and the Japanese seller's user ID jin_sigp210 immediately rang a bell. This same 7A38-6050 case-back s/n 540225 featured heavily on the first page of this thread, between February and December 2012, when it was initially listed as a 'head only', (and re-listed ad nauseam) then fitted with a rubber 'tyre tread' strap and most latterly that Citizen bracelet.


I have a feeling the seller will meet with more success this time around. ;)



Famous last words. :roll: Talk about giving someone's listing the 'kiss of death'.

Despite my rosy prediction (and other lesser 7A38's selling on Yahoo Japan for considerably higher prices), that 7A38-6050 has failed to attract a bid - and still remains unsold, more than 2 months later. :( The YJ seller has continued to re-list it (retaining the same YJ item number) for 4 or 5 days at a time (not continuously), but evidently hasn't yet considered further reducing his opening bid price. :/


He now has some competition. Earlier today, another 7A38-6050 was listed on Yahoo Japan, as a 3-day auction, with a much lower opening bid price of 25,000 Yen. It already has a bidder. This one's fitted with a rubber 'Dive' strap. Apart from the scratched crystal, there's not much to choose between their overall condition. If anything, this newer one appears to have less rubbing wear to the black chrome coating on the bezel thumb grips.



http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l483472189



Google translates the Japanese seller's description as follows:


Seiko's quartz chronograph (Cal.7A38-6050) is

I purchased it quite a long time ago (1980s?) And started using it again for several years

The battery ran out and I replaced again this November.

(Product Details)

Case size 42 mm

Case material SS (stainless steel)

Dial color Black (black)

Model number 7 A 38 - 6050

Movement quartz

accessory is not available

(Remarks)

Since there are conspicuous scratches on the glass, those who are concerned please refrain.

In addition, the belt is not the original one, we are exchanging.

I will assume shipping by Yupakuto.


November 11, 2018 at 7:08 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above 3-day Yahoo Japan auction for a 7A38-6050, fitted with a rubber 'Dive' Strap, ended earlier in the week (I'm in 'catch-up' mode at present). It sold for a very reasonable ¥36,600 Yen after 6 bids. That's equivalent to approx. $324.35 USD / £252.50 GBP. Judging by the high 5-digit feedback number of the winning bidder ID, it was purchased by an international buyer, using one of the proxy bidding services.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l483472189



November 16, 2018 at 10:40 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Presumably in response to that result, long-term would-be YJ seller jin_sigp210 has since reduced his opening bid price slightly, from 45,000 Yen to 42,000 Yen.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d306741484



November 16, 2018 at 10:53 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Once again, the latest 4-day re-listing for his 7A38-6050, by would-be YJ seller jin_sigp210 ended, about 10 minutes ago, with no bids placed - still unsold. :(


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d306741484



November 18, 2018 at 7:27 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Excuse the slightly belated update. After yet another 5-day re-listing, the above 7A38-6050, fitted with a non-original Citizen bracelet finally sold last weekend for the reduced ¥42,000 Yen opening bid price. That's equivalent to approx. $370 USD / £290 GBP. Anyway, I think I can be forgiven for being a week late posting the result. After all, it's been over 6½ years since it was first listed on Yahoo Japan (see page 1 of this thread). Ironic that it ended up selling for his original 2012 Buy-it-Now price too. :roll:


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d306741484



December 2, 2018 at 5:20 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 'Junk' 7A38-6050, fitted with a Citizen Promaster nylon strap was listed on Yahoo Japan earlier today as a 7-day auction, with an opening bid price of 1 Yen. Compared to the two previous examples, this one typically suffers from fading of the red dial printing, chrono' hands and minute marker ring.



https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v613168945



Google translates the Japanese seller's title and description as follows:


I SEIKO / Seiko Quartz / 7A38-6050 / Chronograph / Speedmaster / Junk

It becomes SEIKO chronograph (7A38-6050). I purchased it about 30 years ago and used it. Because the genuine belt was damaged, the belt of CITIZEN - PROMASTER is installed. The battery has just been replaced on December 31st. The function as a watch is not a problem, but the second hand of CG 5/100 does not move. Overall scratches are many old things so it will be treated as junk. After confirming the image, thank you for considering only those who were convinced. Any questions please ask a question. The item will be watch body and manual. I hope in a no claim no return.

Shipping will be Kuroneko Yamato Takkyubin Compact

Shipping fee will be cash on delivery only.


January 5, 2019 at 10:39 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above 7-day Yahoo Japan auction for a 'Junk' 7A38-6050, fitted with a Citizen Promaster nylon strap ended this afternoon, selling for ¥19,000 Yen after 43 bids. That's equivalent to approx. $175 USD / £136.30 GBP. The auction finishing time was automatically extended by 10 minutes, due to a late placed bid. Looking at the high feedback number of the encrypted winning bidder ID, I think it's safe to assume it was purchased by an international buyer, using one of the proxy bidding services.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v613168945



January 12, 2019 at 5:25 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Another 7A38-6050 fitted with a canvas strap was listed on Yahoo Japan earlier today as a 6-day auction. It's in rather poor well used condition, compared to the previous example. The bezel is worn, the crystal deeply scratched and the dial printing and minute ring are badly faded. The deluded would-be seller has set a ludicrous opening bid price of 38,000 Yen - that's DOUBLE what the previous much better condition example sold for, a little over two weeks ago. :roll:




http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p666232297




Google translates the Japanese seller's description as follows:


It is operation confirmed. There are many feeling of use on the whole, there are conspicuous scratches on the top of the glass.

Yamato postage cash on delivery, letter pack we will send. With no claim, no return, payment within 3 days after it makes a successful bid, we ask the person who can receive quickly and receive it.


January 29, 2019 at 5:45 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I note with amusement that the would-be Japanese seller has already reduced his initial laughable opening bid price to 32,000 Yen. :lol:


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p666232297



Keep going .... 


January 29, 2019 at 10:08 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I thought that Japanese seller might have seen sense and further reduced his unrealistic opening bid price once again. But No. At the time of writing it's still 32,000 Yen, so I don't expect there'll be any takers any day soon. Meanwhile, he now has some competition. Yesterday another 7A38-6050 in similar worn / faded condition, fitted with a non-original Casio stainless bracelet, was listed on Yahoo Japan as an 7-day auction with an opening bid price of just 100 Yen.




http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r304252022



Google translates the Japanese seller's description as follows:


I am Takeshima shop, Inc. Thank you very much for your interest.

Since 100 yen - sold goods do not set up prompt decision, I am pleased if you can participate in the auction.

Sold out Seiko chronograph 7A38 - 6050

· Condition of goods: It is a period second-hand goods. Scratches small scratches due to aged deterioration Parts scratches Scratches Dial and needle deterioration etc. External band (Casio). There is no attached with only the watch body.

· Size : Case diameter about 35 mm

· Material: SS

· Drive: QZ

· Dial plate: Black series

· Shipment: We are planning Sagawa Nationwide uniform 700 yen (excluding Okinawa Hokkaido remote island)

We will ship the highest bidder by the next day after our company confirms payment (If the settlement is Saturdays and Sundays the following Monday)

If you settled on Saturday to Sunday on the next day, shipping will be the shortest next Monday (Tuesday if Monday is a holiday) ~

● Exhibits are all genuine, definitely checked by the appraiser who specializes in brand name · antique goods is made.

- Second-hand goods are second-hand goods · Beauty goods are super beauty goods · Super beauty goods · Unused items are described as unused items and as it is, but due to the nature of second hand, I think there is.

In addition, since I think that it is different depending on each person, please understand that I will eventually make the status of the spot the top priority.

● We will accept returned goods / repair correspondence if there is obvious difference or defective operation with exhibition explanation.

● I am receiving reports on the number of runner-up bid frauds pretending to our company to yahoo mail etc.

In the case of cancellation etc. where first-responder does not contact, we will not do anything other than the method of moving forward according to the rules of Yahoo auction, so please take care

Since I have otherwise sent various things, please look along with self-introduction if you like.

Indeed without permission Saturdays and Sundays and holidays will be late for contact on dealings Navi due to closed days.

After our company confirms payment of the highest bidder, we will ship at the latest at the next day (If the settlement is Saturdays and Sundays the following Monday).

If you settled on Saturday - Sunday the next day, shipping will be the next Monday at the shortest (Tuesday if Monday is a holiday) ~

Any questions please do not hesitate to ask.


February 2, 2019 at 6:03 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above 7-day Yahoo Japan auction for a well-worn JDM 7A38-6050, fitted with a non-original Casio replacement bracelet, ended earlier today selling for ¥15,500 Yen after 15 bids. That's equivalent to $141.18 USD / £109.16 GBP.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r304252022



I didn't watch that particular auction ending (as I sometimes do), but I did check the progress of the bidding on it yesterday, when I was quite amazed to see THREE of them currently listed on Yahoo Japan. Talk about London buses. :roll:



Note would-be seller sukippa99jp has siince further reduced his opening bid price from 32,000 to 30,000 Yen. :roll:


February 8, 2019 at 1:52 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The newest Yahoo Japan listing for a 7A38-6050, which I was a bit late spotting (it went live on Monday, hence the reason it isn't flagged as 'New' any more), is the one in the middle of that summary. It's a non-running head only - listed as 'Junk'.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o298467269




Google translates the Japanese seller's description as follows:


It is an antique Seiko chronograph 7A38-6050.

Since it is not running, please handle it completely junk.

I do not know whether it is simply out of battery or somewhere broken.

There is no belt. Please judge the state of the exterior by the image.

Shipping is 360 yen for letter pack light, 510 yen for letter pack plus.

We will not respond to any other shipment.

If the time matches after payment is confirmed it can also be handed directly.

Please refrain from the tender of new and bad evaluators. Please understand that it may be canceled even if it is bid.

It is not a trader. Because it is an individual exhibition of amateurs, there may be a point which does not reach something, but thank you in advance at 3N.


February 8, 2019 at 2:07 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above 7-day Yahoo Japan auction for a non-running 'Junk' 7A38-6050 head only ended a few moments ago, selling for ¥15,060 Yen after 26 bids. That's equivalent to approx. $137.20 USD / £106.06 GBP.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o298467269


February 10, 2019 at 7:10 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at January 29, 2019 at 10:08 AM

I note with amusement that the would-be Japanese seller has already reduced his initial laughable opening bid price to 32,000 Yen. :lol:


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p666232297



Keep going .... 



Indeed, the deluded YJ seller sukippa99jp has continued to gradually reduce his completely unrealistic opening bid price, but he's making painfully slow progress: from his initial laughable 38,000 Yen to 32,000 then 30,000 and most recently the opening bid price is down to 28,600 Yen. :roll:


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p666232297



Meanwhile, he has some more competition in the form of a much nicer example ....


February 17, 2019 at 4:31 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This rather familiar-looking, lightly worn example of the 7A38-6050 was listed on Yahoo Japan earlier today, as a 6-day auction with a confident opening bid price of 20,000 Yen. It wasn't just the watch I recognised, but the YJ seller's ID utdesign...




http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b373202469




Google translates the Japanese seller's description as follows:


Seiko's 1980's quartz is the third chronograph, 7A38-6050. I think that it is a chronograph of a modern design that makes me think of the Porsche design of the 80's. I used it almost, but kept it for a long time, but I will exhibit it for collection arrangement.

Both the windshield, dial and case are very beautiful, but the rotation of the rotating bezel is very stiff. There are also some paint baldness on the corners of the convex part of six finger scales. Although the paint film of this convexity was weak or what is on the auction etc are quite a lot of those with paint off here, this product is relatively black paint remained What? I think. Chrono, calendar feed etc. Functionally there is no problem. Although the belt is not original, I will attach a silicone belt that fits the atmosphere. (Please consider extra level.) Batteries were replaced with new ones.

The center of needle (Center, 1/10 second, 30 minutes accumulation) is aligned to orange and the result is different color and it is effective, product design which is different from other 7A38 series such as processing of various places etc. I think that it is an attractive chronograph with a close design.

Because it is old, I hope in a no claim, no return.

Dispatch can trade without knowing the address and name to each other Yafu Neko! Shipment by courier only compact (shipping fee will be borne by the successful bidder). please note that.


This particularly nice example of the JDM 7A38-6050 has already featured a couple of times on the first page of this thread: Firstly when it sold on Yahoo Japan last time, back in October 2012 for 38,000 Yen. Then on this Japanese blog page:

https://synchronar.blogspot.com/2012/11/seiko-7a38-6050.html

UT-San has obviously worn it over the last 6 years, so it's not quite as pristine as when he bought it. In his description he mentions the slight loss of black chrome plating from the corners of the bezel finger grips, but it's barely noticeable. It'll be interesting to see how much (more than 38,000 Yen) it makes this time around.


February 17, 2019 at 4:40 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Although I was busy at work yesterday lunchtime, I made a point of remembering to watch UT-San's YJ auction for his 7A38-6050, as it ended. I thought it might have gone on longer, but the finishing time was only extended by 5 minutes. It sold for a very respectable ¥100,000 Yen after 33 bids. That's equivalent to approx. $903 USD / £692 GBP.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b373202469




I'd been following the progress of the bidding throughout the week. Seems I wasn't the only one. :roll: Some 8 hours or more before UT-San's YJ auction for his very nice 7A38-6050 had ended, the deluded YJ seller sukippa99jp re-listed his well worn example once again ....


February 23, 2019 at 8:47 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I hadn't bothered to mention before, but I had spotted that he'd further slightly reduced the opening bid price of his previous re-listing, from 28,600 Yen to 26,800. Subtle, but stll not enough. :roll:


Obviously inspired by the healthy bidding on the other far nicer condition example, he saw fit to re-list his, as a two-day auction, with the opening bid price now increased back to slightly more than when he first started - 38,800 Yen. :roll:



http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c718592673




Needless to say, despite the fresh set of photos, which still didn't show the watch in any better light, the 2-day auction ended at lunctime today, with no bids placed and this well worn 7A38-6050 still unsold. :roll:


February 23, 2019 at 9:37 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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It would appear that would-be YJ seller sukippa99jp is not only deluded (about the true worth of his well-worn 7A38-6050), but evidently also somewhat incompetent. This morning, he re-listed it on Yahoo Japan for another 5 days - twice ! :lol:


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c718592673

http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p666232297



I wonder how long it'll be before he realizes his mistake (¥12K Yen difference). 


February 25, 2019 at 5:31 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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It actually took him two days, before he realized and deleted the other listing. He's still re-listing the first one, with the price currently reduced by 2% to 38,000 Yen. :roll:


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c718592673


I've never made any secret of my disdain for 'Soshul Meedya' and the semi-literate greasy fingered screen-smearing hordes that frequent it. However it would be foolhardy of me to completely ignore it, because it's rapidly becoming evident that a good number of watches are being (re)sold using Facebook and Instagram, rather than traditional selling platforms like eBay and Yahoo Japan.


Every now and then I'll browse Deskgram, which is a photo sharing off-shoot of Instagram. I spotted this decent looking 7A38-6050, fitted with a canvas strap, which was posted 3 days ago. Apparently it was being offered for sale (based on this single photo). Judging by one or two of his other (foodie) posts and the language, I suspect the Instagram poster chrstnrchn is probably Indonesian.


http://deskgram.net/p/1997607885053313192_1416374689

Seiko SJS058 (7A38-6050) JDM Circa May 1985 (SOLD)




The green canvas strap fitted initially threw me a curved ball. But it's not difficult to identify the watch. The yellowed minute mark ring and the general lack of wear to the bezel finger grips are clues. But the grazed finger grip adjacent the '35' mark is the giveaway. This is the same 'Junk' 7A38-6050 (then a 'head only') which recently sold on Yahoo Japan for ¥15,060 Yen. See my couple of posts higher up the page - the result dated February 10th. Looks like it cleaned up quite nicely. No idea what price it may have re-sold for. :/


March 14, 2019 at 10:20 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Well, if nothing else, you've certainly got to give him 10/10 for persistence. :roll:

Earlier today, the deluded would-be YJ seller sukippa99jp re-listed his well-worn 7A38-6050 once again, as a 'New' 3-day auction listing. Indeed the 10 photos are all new; the watch is now fitted with a black 2-piece NATO strap, in place of the previous olive green one. Unfortunately, he's elected to stick with his laughably over-ambitious opening bid price of 38,800 Yen.




http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n334404651



The description is the same as his previous listings, with the addition of:

The belt is an external product but it is beautiful.


March 20, 2019 at 4:03 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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