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It is with some annoyance - and utter disgust that I find myself starting the new page with this. Yet another instance of Déjà Vu and a prime example of continued blatant profiteering by the greedy and lately prolific Cypriot eBay re-seller hattori_cy.


Earlier this evening, he listed a rather familiar looking stainless 7A38-7000, with an almost laughable 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $680 (or the option to make a much lower sensible offer).


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283509384132


Vintage SEIKO 7a38 - 7000 Speedtimer in excellent condition

- This is an all original / authentic SEIKO 7a38 - 7000 Speedtimer.

- The watch has been cleaned, oiled, new gaskets and test by a Seiko specialist watchsmith and is 100% excellent working condition in all of its functions.

- Chronograph & Pushers are working like new.

- Brand new high quality (Japan) battery.

- Keeps very accurate time.

- One of the most beautiful 7a38 models.

- Made: August 1983.

- Full length original bracelet (8 inch).

Please look at the photos because they are also part of the description.

Returns not accepted, unless the watch does not match the description.


As I've written before, when criticising his other listings: The fitment of a new battery and a photo with two pots of Seiko silicone grease is no kind of evidence that this watch has been properly serviced by anybody.


In case you didn't recognise it as quickly as I did (from its low 38xxxx case-back serial number), this same stainless 7A38-7000 sold on 27th May for 235.56 Euros.

To save you doing the math, at today's exchange rate, $680 is equivalent to almost exactly 600 Euros, which represents a mark up of approx.155% on top of the price he paid for it a little over a week ago.


June 7, 2019 at 2:30 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at May 27, 2019 at 11:50 PM

The penultimate 7-day French eBay auction for a stainless 7A38-7000 ended yesterday evening, selling for 235.56 Euros after 43 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254237887266



Needless to say, the very early 7A38 production (August 1983) case-back serial number: 380110, visible when you zoom in on a couple of his photos, matches.


June 7, 2019 at 2:33 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at July 23, 2018 at 4:26 PM

This 'truly stunning example' (not) of a stainless 7A38-7000 was listed this afternoon by a UK profiteering re-seller gandiva1111, who has previously featured in other threads in this forum section. It's typically laughably speculatively over-priced with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of £450. I'll write in some more detail tomorrow. All I'll say for now: is study the photos (which on first inspection appear to be of 2 completely different watches) carefully - and Caveat Emptor !!


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153111173416


Edit: I’ve since had a better opportunity to study the sellers' 4 photos myself. I’ll stand by what I wrote earlier, in that they appear to be of two different watches. Let’s start with the shot of the case-back. It’s clearly been grossly over-polished in the best Filipino watch botcher tradition. The numbers stamped on the reverse of the bracelet are B1074 – indicating that the bracelet is not original, but the similar appearing one off a 7A28-703x. Note also in the shot of the re-brushed clasp, that the black painted inlays are missing from the bracelet.




We know that gandiva1111 is a profiteering re-seller who buys for resale. The last time I saw a stainless 7A38-7000 with a case-back that shiny and also fitted with a B1074S bracelet was back in March – sold by Filipino watch botcher badingski.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352302299431



Could this be the same watch now offered by this brazen con artist, for over 3 times the price paid ? :o Zoom in and squint hard at badingski’s photo of the case-back and you can almost make out the same serial number - 420193



Apologies for the lengthy (albeit slightly truncated) quote from page 9 of this thread, but once again, it looks like stubborn persistence by another greedy would-be profiteering eBay re-seller has eventually paid handsome dividends. I'd long since lost count of the number of times, since July last year, that devious UK eBay seller gandiva1111 had re-listed the ex-badingski stainless 7A38-7000 - due to the manner in which he ends each one of his listings as allegedly being no longer available, then re-lists afresh. I can't say that I'd even noticed at which point he'd reduced his 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price from £450 to £425. His latest re-listing was created at the weekend, so only 4 days old. Yesterday lunchtime, he eventually managed to snare a mug punter buyer and made himself a profit of over 170%.

WatchCount.com's Look-up tool reveals it finally sold for a best offer of £335.


June 14, 2019 at 7:43 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I'm only bothering to mention these 'post facto', as and when I'm adding genuine updates to the various threads. No doubt, many readers will have noticed that last week, deranged embittered Australian eBayer aussiewatches  masquerading as seiko7a38forum, resumed his one-man hate campaign against myself and this forum, by creating a string of abusive and fraudulent eBay listings.


This bogus listing, for a stainless 7A38-7000 was created early on Thursday 20th morning and subsequently removed Thursday afternoon, by eBay Trust & Safety, along with the remainder of the first batch (which were created on Tuesday 18th morning). So I guess a few readers may well have seen this one.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123808391072


It used two photos of my first stainless 7A38-7000, stolen from the first page of this thread, including my wrist shot !



However, I doubt many (if any) readers will have seen this other one before. It was created just after 8:00 am on Friday 21st morning, by which time I was already on the phone to eBay, reporting the second batch of abusive and fraudulent listings he'd created earlier that morning.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123809879039


The single photo he used was stolen from the first page of this thread. Indeed it's the first photo I posted in it - from the March 2009 eBay auction where I bought it.




He ended that listing himself - not that it was ever available.


WatchCount.com's look-up tool shows it was live for just over two minutes.



June 24, 2019 at 12:56 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at June 7, 2019 at 2:30 PM

It is with some annoyance - and utter disgust that I find myself starting the new page with this. Yet another instance of Déjà Vu and a prime example of continued blatant profiteering by the greedy and lately prolific Cypriot eBay re-seller hattori_cy.


Earlier this evening, he listed a rather familiar looking stainless 7A38-7000, with an almost laughable 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $680 (or the option to make a much lower sensible offer).


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283509384132


Although I'm not unduly surprised, it is with even greater annoyance that I have to report that greedy Cypriot eBay seller hattori_cy has once again succeeded in his unscrupulous profiteering ways. That stainless 7A38-7000, which he bought from a French eBay seller, at the end of May for 235.56 Euros, sold earlier this evening against a best offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283509384132

The eBay Purchase History shows he'd declined a dozen previous offers:



Unfortunately WatchCount.com's normally superbly reliable look-up tool is again suffering from a recurring glitch, so I can't post the actual selling price at present. :/




Edit: WatchCount.com is now displaying this banner message which explains:


June 24, 2019 at 12:57 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This doesn't really belong in this thread and I guess I could just as easy have added it onto the CRAZIEST eBay prices thread. I've documented a few examples, where stainless 7A38-7000's have been incorrectly fitted with Seiko p/n B1074S bracelets (normally found on the 7A28-7039), instead of the pukka p/n B1170S and admittedly they're somewhat similar in appearance, apart from their first joining link. But ....


Looks like US eBay seller vanman2usa has been sniffing something. $575 !


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163770627061


SEIKO WATCH BAND FOR 7A28-7039 OR 7A38-7000 HAS SCRATCHES AND SOME OF THE BLACK MIDDLE LINKS HAVE WEAR. For restoration or parts only. Vintage watches even if running may require service or adjustment if more accuracy is desired. Please ask all questions and view all photos before buying to avoid any misunderstanding to what is being sold. Thank you.


This B1074S bracelet, is of course, yet another instance of Déjà Vu :roll: ....


Originally posted on June 22, 2018 at 4:08 PM  in the 7A38-7070 thread


This 7A38-7070 in average worn condition, fitted with a non-original replacement Seiko bracelet, was listed earlier this afternoon by US eBay seller vanman2usa, with a typically over-optimistic Buy-it-Now price of $450. Well known (or should I say notorious) for his '4U2Fix' offerings, it's no great surprise that this one has fault with the chronograph 30 minute counter. :roll: He does acknowledge, in his description, that the bracelet might not be correct for this model. Indeed, it looks very much like a Seiko p/n B1074S off a 7A28-7039 (-or 7A28-703B).


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm//163111025944

July 9, 2019 at 1:28 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This incorrectly identified, well-worn stainless 7A38-7000, fitted with a non-original replacement Seiko bracelet (likely off some late 70's Seiko digital) was listed earlier this evening, by an Austrian seller, with a laughably over-optimistic 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of 420 Euros. For anyone desperate enough to consider buying this truthfully rather less than 'very very beautiful' example, there is thankfully the option to make a much lower, more sensible offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293147992545 



Very very beautiful 7a38

Serviced and new glass by Seiko Vienna!

Top original bracelet with all (!) links.


July 10, 2019 at 2:01 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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I hadn't checked in on the Swedish 'eBay equivalent' site Tradera.com lately. I ran a couple of searches on there this morning and found this stainless 7A38-7000, fitted with a non-original generic Hirsch? stainless replacement bracelet, with no mention of the model number in the title nor description.


The watch head itself looks quite decent, but going by the apparent distortion of the Tachymeter ring in the seller's photos, I'd suspect it's also been fitted with a lightly domed plexiglass crystal. Bidding is currently at 441 SKr (less than £40 Quid) and the auction ends on Sunday evening. For anyone who doesn't read Swedish and might be interested, Google Translate works pretty well on Tradera.com.


https://www.tradera.com/item/190204/357017557/seiko-speedmaster-chrono-quartz




Description

Super nice watch from Seiko in QUARTZ version with chronograph. Steel strip from Hirsch. Size about 37 mm.

New battery and three month warranty.

The object is covered by the provisions of the Distance Contract Act on the right of withdrawal.

The item is shipped with PostNord, traceable but not insured since PostNord offers good insurance on watches. When all items are prepared the same day they are finished, it is important if you want them to be sent otherwise. We use DHL Express for insured items and this can be arranged at cost price, but then you must contact us as soon as the auction ends.

For foreign buyers please be aware of shipping costs. Shipping within Europe is 30 €, outside 60 €. For information in English, please contact through Tradera.


July 18, 2019 at 3:44 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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