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Another 7A38-701B 'Vulcan' in nothing like such good condition as the previous example we saw on eBay Germany (in July)

and fitted with a non-original 'president' style bracelet was listed by an Austrian seller on the first weekend of November 2012:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/schone-SEIKO-Chronograph-Pepsi-Herren-Stahl-Quartz-Uhr-/281017680771

Schöne SEIKO-Chronograph-Pepsi Herren Stahl Quartz Uhr


 


Vintage SEIKO Chronograph-Pepsi Quartz

Herrenuhr aus dem Hause Seiko ,Die Uhr befindet sich in einen guten gebrauchten Zustand,

gehäuse : Edelstahl - geschraubter stahlboden

original Seiko Edelstahl Armband   (it isn't !)

Werk : Quartz Uhr - Läuft einwandfrei..

Gehäusemaße: ca.39 x 43 mm

gehäusehöhe: ca. 11 mm


Regardless of the non-original bracelet, it still sold for a strong 289 Euros (approx. £230.85) after 15 bids.


Despite the seller's complete failure to mention the 'magic words' 7A38 and Vulcan anywhere in their title or description, but instead 'Pepsi', the auction still received 285 views over the listing period. I suspect most collectors who would have been interested saw it.


November 11, 2012 at 2:23 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Normally when the italian husband and wife eBay sellers strega_68 or angeli_65 lists a 'new' Seiko 7A38 on eBay, the first thread it automatically seems to get mentioned in is the 'Craziest Prices' thread in the eBay forum section. Indeed they started off the topic. :roll:

This afternoon they listed a used 7A38-701B 'Vulcan'.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281026328016

VINTAGE SEIKO CHRONOGRAPH CAL. 7A38 - 7018 "VERY RARE"



VINTAGE SEIKO CHRONOGRAPH CAL. 7A38 - 7018 "VERY RARE".

TAG BOX AND ALL ORIGINAL SEIKO (but not necessarily original to this watch). 


So is their asking price 'crazy' as usual ? Or at $950 / £599.50 have they inadvertently pitched it about right for once ? 


Incidentally, you may have noticed that strega_68 has got the model code slightly wrong - giving it an 8 suffix instead of a B:roll:

I can forgive him this slight booboo. If you'd seen photos of Francesca in her bikini 8) you'd get your B's and 8's mixed up too ! 


November 18, 2012 at 11:27 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Well I didn't expect that to hang around for very long, but I'm surprised they let it go relatively cheaply, quite so quickly ....

Sold, a little over 2 hours after it was listed for $500£315.50. The listing had received only 25 views before it ended.

November 18, 2012 at 2:30 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Incredibly, it's been over a year since we last saw a rare 7A38-701B 'Vulcan' listed on eBay. Unfortunately the rather tatty looking example listed overnight by a would-be US eBay seller looked all too familiar - from the moment I started clicking on the photos:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201001395140





Up for sale is this highly sought after Seiko "Vulcan Bomber" watch. There is so much written about this watch, it is dizzying. In short, the story is that this watch was produced for Vulcan Bomber crews and has the unique yellow face for high-vilibility in a packed cockpit. They story is that they were purchased at the end of the Vulcan era by the MOD. The story has been researched many many times and it has never been fully substantiated. There are several people who claim they have the original packaging to prove the connection, but that material has yet to turn up.

 

Nonetheless this is a very nice piece and not many of them show up since the production run was likely only 700 pieces. This one is in great working shape. It was serviced within the past year and all of the functions work well. There is some wear to the bezel, but all else about the watch looks great. The watch comes with a Seiko Speedmaster-style band and some extra links. Please note, this band is 19mm wide and the watch is meant to have a 20mm band, but this one works well.

 

I purchased this watch a few months ago and had every intention of keeping it, but now need to raise some quick cash, so out it goes.

 

What a great piece to add to your collection. Please look at all of he photos and let me know if you have any questions. Buyer to pay $15 for USA shipping and $40 for worldwide shipping.


If you need any clues to its identity, then the biggest half-truth is in the seller's statement: I purchased this watch a few months ago.

I suspect it may be more than 'a few months' since he actually bought it. Go back to my very first post on page one of this topic ....

This is clearly the very same dog-eared 7A38-701B which 'Bobsy' listed on MWR back in June 2012. The same badly worn bezel insert, incorrect 19mm aftermarket Feiko ? bracelet - right down to the missing flake of paint above the 1/10 second subdial.

One that was best avoided first time around and especially so now, given the current seller's over-optimistic asking price of $675. :roll:


December 9, 2013 at 9:25 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Coincidentally, earlier today ....

Over on TZ-UK, a newbie poster bumped the 'Vulcan' thread from December 2010, where the myth was finally summarily debunked:


http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?144711-Vulcan-100-Genuine-Military-Issue-Fact!

December 12, 2013 at 12:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The would-be US eBay seller of that tatty ex-MWR 'Bobsy' 7A38-701B lowered his asking price from $675 to 'only' $500 this afternoon:



December 13, 2013 at 11:16 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Just been running a couple of searches on MWR forum - I hadn't been on there in ages.

Seems this same person has been trying to sell them back on MWR since March this year. :roll:

See: http://www.mwrforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=196650 and http://www.mwrforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=198446


7A28-7040 WITH SCUFFED ROTATING BEZEL AND 7A38-7018 YELLOW DIAL WITH SCUFFED DIAL 400$ TAKES THEM BOB.


The same eBay seller smashpenny is also listing a dog-eared looking 7A28-7040: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201001411344 ($285)

                                                                                        subsequently also relisted: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201005061039 ($245)


December 15, 2013 at 6:31 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Back again re-listed this morning, with the price reduced to 'only' $425. Wow! (not). :lol:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201005061038


December 16, 2013 at 6:45 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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That re-listing ended nearly an hour ago, with the watch unsold once again:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201005061038


The seller received a single offer of $310, which he allowed to expire - something he may live to regret. :/


Belated edit: Subsequently re-listed for 3 days - further reduced to $375: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201008613712

December 22, 2013 at 10:37 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Finally sold yesterday evening against a Best Offer: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201008613712


.... which according to Goofbid: http://www.goofbid.com/ebay_best_offers_tool.html?username=smashpenny would equate to $300.


December 26, 2013 at 8:32 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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http://www.chrono24.fr/seiko/vulcan-force-seiko--id2767210.htm




bonjour, j'ai vu l'annonce pour cette 7A38-701B, si cela peut intéresser quelqu'un?

Je ne sais pas si le prix (assez élevé) est-elle justifiée?

 

bonne journée

--

7a38 7060, my lovely watch

August 10, 2014 at 3:12 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Phil
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Bit of a newbie question but did the yellow 7a28-710a come first and are they equally as rare as both models seem virtually impossible to find

August 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Phil.

I don't track 7A28-xxxx case-back serial numbers particularly closely as they're of little interest to me :P ....

But you'll find an answer (or sorts) in this thread in the 7Axx General Discussion area.


Originally posted (by myself) on November 22, 2012 at 6:53 PM


The earliest 7A38 I've ever seen - which I bought, in November 2009, belonging to my 7A38-701B 'Vulcan':



The serial number 383261 dates it to August 1983, but it certainly wasn't the 3261st 7A38-701B Vulcan produced !!

It's likely that the 0001-9999 serial number range for August 1983 was shared with then concurrent 7A28 production.


August 11, 2014 at 1:54 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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À LVign.

Cette 7A38-701B sur Chrono24 est trop cher, notamment parce qu'elle est équipé d'un bracelet en cuir non-originale.

Lorsque vous avez posté le lien, je savais que je n'avais vu que montre avant. 8)

Il m'a fallu un peu de temps pour le retrouver. Il est en bas de la première page de ce fil sur TZ-UK.

http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?144711-Vulcan-100-Genuine-Military-Issue-Fact!



Si vous examinez de près les photos numéros 5 et 6, la lunette et le cadran ne sont pas en bon état.




Personne sain d'esprit ne doit pas être envisager de payer 510 euros pour cette montre - même si elle avait encore le bracelet en acier correct d'origine. 


Bonsoir.


August 11, 2014 at 2:14 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Earlier this evening I received an unsolicited 'Vulcan Alert' via a contact form message from the forum. It simply read:

 

Hello! I have a 7A38 "RAF Vulcan" for sale. Might be of interest.


Followed by this link to OLX.hu: http://olx.hu/hirdetes/seiko-7a38-raf-vulcan-karora-ID2y3cf.html



Google translates the brief description as follows:

Seiko RAF Vulcan. That's enough for him.

Rare to find sale items and even rarer that such good condition.




The asking price is 150,000 Hungarian Florints, which converts to approx: £380 GPB or 478 Euros or $617 USD.

The seller's name is Tibor. He's in Pécs, capital of Baranya county in southern Hungary. His email is: lowtyo@gmail.com

If you're interested, I suggest proceeding with caution. I have no other knowledge of, or affiliation with the seller. Caveat Emptor.


September 11, 2014 at 5:50 PM Flag Quote & Reply

500DXB
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Seiko7A38 at September 11, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Earlier this evening I received an unsolicited 'Vulcan Alert' via a contact form message from the forum. It simply read:

 

Hello! I have a 7A38 "RAF Vulcan" for sale. Might be of interest.


Followed by this link to OLX.hu: http://olx.hu/hirdetes/seiko-7a38-raf-vulcan-karora-ID2y3cf.html



Google translates the brief description as follows:

Seiko RAF Vulcan. That's enough for him.

Rare to find sale items and even rarer that such good condition.




The asking price is 150,000 Hungarian Florints, which converts to approx: £380 GPB or 478 Euros or $617 USD.

The seller's name is Tibor. He's in Pécs, capital of Baranya county in southern Hungary. His email is: lowtyo@gmail.com

If you're interested, I suggest proceeding with caution. I have no other knowledge of, or affiliation with the seller. Caveat Emptor.



Hello lads,

 

Great forum you have here and I wanted to get some more information on the Seiko Vulcan that was spied on Chrono24.com as I have literally gone and bought it a few days ago...

*awkward silence*

 

So from you can see it's not the real thing? The watch is currently being DHL'd from Budapest to Dubai as we speak and I should have it next week. I am a bit gutted to find out I was gullible enough to buy it but then this is my first vintage Seiko as I have been collecting CWC's and MWC's in the past.

 

What I'll do is once I get it is lash up all the pic's on the web. Cheers and will be in touch soon once it gets in here.


PS - Paul, when I go to insert image it's requesting for a URL?

What is the correct way to do this without a URL as the images I have are email attachments? Thanks


September 29, 2014 at 3:26 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Thanks for re-posting it here, Osie. Fits better I'm sure you'll agree. I'll delete your other original post from the WRUW thread. ;)


To post photos on this forum you need first to host them using something like PhotoBucket. That will give you the required URL links.

Though Webs forum software typically does it slightly differently to the method used on most other watch forums Check out this thread.


PS - Go easy on the Quote & Reply please. :P


September 29, 2014 at 3:37 PM Flag Quote & Reply

500DXB
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So this is the chap I bought it from:

http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?144711-Vulcan-100-Genuine-Military-Issue-Fact!&p=2962647&viewfull=1#post2962647


Little video he made me on the packing of the watch too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGVstSIPrs8&feature=youtu.be


Oh dear me.


September 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Well it's certainly not a fake, Osie, as you implied by your "you can see it's not the real thing?". Just not possibly the best example. :/

Do you read French ? If not use Google to translate my reply to LVign (Louis) - including my comments on condition / asking price.


I don't know what you may have paid for it (I believe RCHRCH was asking 510 Euros on Chrono24 at one time), but perhaps that other more recent listing on OLX Hungary - on the correct original Z1118S bracelet (which you quoted), might have been a rather better buy.


September 29, 2014 at 3:52 PM Flag Quote & Reply

500DXB
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Thanks Paul,


From my understanding on this forum, that Vulcan's have gold lettering on the bezel and I thougth someone else had posted to say it was a mix of parts (real dial but not Vulcan bezel etc).

Obviously you guys are the experts here and that's why I joined so happy to be guided by you on it.


Once I get the watch next week will post up some pics (how do you do this without a URL to them, can they be simply inserted?).


Thanks all advice and banter on it.

September 30, 2014 at 6:06 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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