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Seiko7A38
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If you've read through the previous page, then it's hopefully abundantly clear by now that the best place to look for a decent example of a 7A48-7050 Fishing master is Yahoo Japan auctions. Although a few have turned up elsewhere on eBay, notably in the UK; USA and the Far East - it was a designated JDM (Japan Domestic Market) model after all.


Here's what appears to be a well-cared-for example that's just been listed on Yahoo Japan:


http://page16.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u65130419

セイコー クオーツ ムーンフェイズ 7A48-7050 中古





Google translates the seller's brief description (badly as usual) as follows:


Accessory is not only watch. Small scratch is little too much back cover there is a small scratch etc. secondhand. There is a small scratch on the glass surface. There is no problem with the clock function. The arm circumference is around 19.4 centimeters. Case diameter is about four centimeters in measured in the middle without a crown. Thank you no claim no return.


As you can see, the opening bid price is a hefty 55,000 Yen (equivalent $532 USD /  £320 GBP)  - but it has one eager bidder already.


March 31, 2014 at 9:10 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Nearly forgot to report. That YJ auction ended earlier today. The initial bidder got sniped (or as near as you can get to sniping on YJ):

http://pageinfo16.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/show/bid_hist?aID=u65130419 - It sold for 56,000 Yen (approx. $543 USD / £327 GBP).


April 7, 2014 at 2:54 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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At the risk of repeating myself (yet again) .....

Yup - if you want to find a decent example of a 7A48-7050 Fishing Master, Yahoo Japan auctions is definitely the place to look:

 

http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m122048466

『 SEIKO 』 セイコー Fishing Master 『 7A48-7050 』



 

Google translates the lengthy Japanese description (badly, as usual) as follows:

 

Case size (not including crown): 4.2cm approx.

Arm circumference (maximum): about 18.0cm

Accessories: None

Weight: about 109.2g


"On the state of the product" 

Please check the image for more information about state. The accessory is all the thing of the image.This product is there a used article. There is the case that there is dirt, scratches, etc. associated with it. Those seeking a new condition Excuse me, but please refrain from bidding.


The bid from the mobile phone, please check at the PC image details are required not only a mobile screen.

Might be different from the goods by the environment of the monitor and color of the image browser, such as light and shade.

In addition, because of the number of photo limit, there is a case that can not be moved all wounds.

Please be sure to question up to 10 hours before the end the one with the uneasiness with the state.


Cancellation and questions after being awarded is a source of trouble. Please refrain from the tender of exactly how it was have a question about the condition. Please refrain from the cancellation of the highest bidder convenience. It was different from that (example) I thought. Etc. scratches stand out from the image. We confirm the operation at the time of exhibition, but there is the case that there is an oversight many ....


.... It continues ad nauseam with even more caveats about bidding and payment. :roll:


As you can see from the screen print, opening bid price is a hefty 50,000 Yen (equivalent to approx. $490 USD / £288 GBP).

There may not be any bids placed yet, but I think I can confidently predict it will sell - probably for quite a bit higher than that. ;)


June 22, 2014 at 6:50 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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That Yahoo Japan auction for the nice-looking 7A48-7050 Fishing Master ended yesterday after something of a last-minute snipe-fest (by YJ standards). It sold for 57000 Yen (approx. $562 USD / £330 GBP): http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m122048466


June 28, 2014 at 6:47 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Here's another 7A48-7050 Fishing Master just recently listed on eBay by an Indonesian seller, who judging by his 'pie-in-the-sky' B-I-N asking price of $1495, clearly has no idea of the current going rates on Yahoo Japan auctions - or more likely, he's just trying it on.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221478800731

Seiko "Fishing Master" 

7A48 - 7050 

"Made in Japan"



Cal.7A48, 1980s Quartz. 

The pre-owned watch is in working order. All buttons are functioning normal. Purple Seiko Box included. 

This is not a brand new watch, so there are a few scratches around the watch cosmetic. 

Other specific features haven't been tested.


Indeed as the seller has done his best to ensure that the serial number is completely out of focus in the photo of the case-back, I wouldn't be exactly surprised if this is one we've seen before - at a rather more sensible down-to-earth price.


June 29, 2014 at 6:33 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Indonesian seller fhipe's listing for a 7A48-7050 Fishing Master ended in the early hours of this morning - sold against a best offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221478800731


According to Goofbid's Best Offer history tool, the offer he accepted was for a whopping $950 (current  £ / $ conversion rate = 1.71)


July 1, 2014 at 6:07 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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As I'd already written elsewhere in the eBay section, much to my own amusement:

Note the seller's eBay ID: rubyginny. This is erstwhile forum member 'Mr. money no object, gotta catch 'em all', Stuart Lennard. 

I'd noticed him list a couple of NOS Seiko 6139-xxxx auto chrono's earlier this month. Looks like he may be thinning out his collection.


So now Stuart's 7A48-7050 Fishing Master is up for grabs on eBay:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121375873068




SHIPPING INTERNATIONAL WORLWIDE EXPRESS 4-5 DAYS $42.00 WITHIN AUSTRALIA EXPRESS $13.00 

RARE SEIKO 7A48-7050 FISHING MASTER. BOX TAG AND INSTRUCTION MANUAL .ALL IN EXCELLANT CONDITION. CRYSTAL AS NEW .ALL FUNCTIONS WORK AS THEY SHOULD. SNAPS BACK TO 12 POSITION . 

ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE ASK. 

PHOTOS FORM PART OF THE ITEM DESCRIPTION. 

ZERO FEEDBACK BUYERS PLEASE CONTACT ME. 

CUSTOMER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ADDITIONAL CUSTOM FEES BROCKERAGE FEES DUTIES AND OR TAXES.

From the 'MINER' spelling mistakes, the description was obviously penned by his own fair shakey hand. 

I haven't bothered uploading all 9 of his photos as many are quite similar.


This is the same 7A48-7050 Fishing Master he purchased on Yahoo Japan in October last year (see previous page and quote below).


July 1, 2014 at 7:47 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at October 20, 2013 at 8:25 AM

A forum member who fancied hooking himself a 7A48-7050 Fishing Master emailed me - asking how much I thought he'd need to bid.

I wrote back:


They're very popular with collectors - especially in Japan.

As well as you can tell from the photos (try zooming in on them) that one isn't in the best of condition.

The outer bezel (it's an acrylic like on the 7A38-6020) looks a bit scratched - as does the bracelet.

The Japanese don't like wabi on watches.

But read through that (this) thread carefully. You'll see the prices other examples have sold for.

I'd budget on 50,000 Yen to be on the safe side.


The auction ended a couple of minutes ago: http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/172558616



It sold for 52,100 Yen (approx. $532.50 US / £329.50 GBP) after 19 bids (by 4 different bidders). Close, but no cigar, or perhaps .... ;)



At today's exchange rates, Stuart's current asking price of $860 AUD is equivalent to $813 USD - so he's hoping to turn a profit.

July 1, 2014 at 7:59 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Stuart's 10-day listing for his 7A48-7050 Fishing Master (he actually re-listed it after 2 days) ended about 15 minutes ago - unsold:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121376991128


Edit: Back again, re-listed a couple of hours later, Buy-it-Now price reduced by $100 (Au) and with free international postage:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121384205653

July 12, 2014 at 5:05 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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It's been a while since I've seen one listed on there; then again I haven't been searching that diligently, but as I wrote at the top of the page (and umpteen times before) if you're looking for a 7A48-7050 Fishing Master, keep a watching eye on Yahoo Japan auctions.

Here's a once-loved example which was listed on there earlier today:


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/187396184

■セイコー SPEED MASTER 7A48-7050 ムーンフェイス OH済■

 



Google translates the Japanese seller's title and description (unintentionally humorously in parts) as follows:


 ■ Seiko SPEED MASTER 7A48-7050 moon face OH settled ■

There are no accessories only watch.

Back cover in the Middle Ages that has been used for many years, in both the glass surface also has scratches.

Arm around 1 is about 7.5 centimeters. Because the piece of the removed band I lost person thick of arm Please note.

I had conducted the overhaul by the manufacturer to last year's December.

At that time the battery exchange and waterproof inspection (daily life) is also I am implemented.

And I was much trouble implementing the overhaul, but it was decided to exhibit this time because there is no plan to use.

It is a start from ¥ 20,000 in equivalent plus postage to overhaul cost.

( postage courier service I will pay here)

No claim no return, please.


January 3, 2015 at 6:51 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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That 7-day Yahoo Japan auction for the above 7A48-7050 Fishing master ended around lunchtime (UK time) today.

As is often the case with YJ auctions the finishing time appears to have been extended (by 15 minutes) due to late bids placed.

http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/187396184




It sold for 66,000 Yen (equivalent to approx. $557 USD / 367.50 GBP) after 14 bids placed by 3 different bidders.


January 10, 2015 at 8:12 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Well if you are thinking about hooking yourself a 7A48-7050 Fishing Master  (as per the title of this thread) ....

I'd strongly advise against this one, listed on eBay a couple of hours ago by Indonesian would-be profiteering re-seller fhipe.

This is exactly the same 7A48-7050 sold on Yahoo Japan two weeks ago for for 66,000 Yen (equivalent to approx. $557 US) ....

.... that he is now asking an absolutely ludicrous $1495 for !! :o


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361200044779



Seiko "Fishing Master" 7A48 - 7050 "Made in Japan"


 

Cal.7A48, 1980s Quartz. 

The pre-owned watch is in working order. All buttons are functioning normal. Japan Domestic Market release only! Produced In Small Quantity! 

This is not a brand new watch, so there are a few scratches around the watch crystal & cosmetic. 

Other specific features haven't been tested. 

Sold As Is! No Return! 

Please note : Pictures were taken from actual item you are bidding on. Please check them "carefully" for its condition.

 

How can I be so sure this is exactly the same watch ? :| Simples. 8)

This guy has form (as a would-be profiteering re-seller). For one thing, see my above post dated 29th June 2014 - and I quote:


Here's another 7A48-7050 Fishing Master just recently listed on eBay by an Indonesian seller, who judging by his 'pie-in-the-sky' B-I-N asking price of $1495, clearly has no idea of the current going rates on Yahoo Japan auctions - or more likely, he's just trying it on.

Indeed as the seller has done his best to ensure that the serial number is completely out of focus in the photo of the case-back, I wouldn't be exactly surprised if this is one we've seen before - at a rather more sensible down-to-earth price.


Plus he's also currently trying to flog a JDM 7A38-7110 purchased on Yahoo Japan auctions for a similarly ridiculously inflated $1100.

Go to that thread and check the winning bidder ID on the 7A38-7110 and you'll see it shows in abbreviated form as jaa***** (8838).

I can't remember which it is now, but that ID belongs to one of the proxy bidding services - maybe Shopping Mall Japan or Japamart.

Check the winning bidder on that recent 7A48-7050 Fising Master auction on Yahoo Japan - it's the same jaa***** (8838).

That doesn't prove it conclusively of course. So check the wear on the outer bezel insert between 28 and 29 in both sets of photos.

Of course, he's tried to obscure the case-back serial number by flooding it with light (as he did back in June last year). There wasn't actually a photo of the case-back in the YJ listing, but if you check the photo of the service paperwork, it shows a serial number 520771. Right click and save his 7th photo, zoom in on it and adjust the contrast - quel surprise (not) - serial number 520771.

Incidentally, what I wrote about numerically low serial numbers seen on the first page goes out the window with this one. :P


January 28, 2015 at 5:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

PHK
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US $1495.00....hum...did Mad Martina move to Indonesia?

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Paul in Vegas.  8)

January 28, 2015 at 5:56 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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No there's a difference here, Paul.

Mad Martina has no idea of what the market will stand and is clearly certifiable. Her last remaining unsold 7A38 - the dog-eared 7A38-7069 D-I-Y repair kit (for which she paid $41 nearly 2 years ago) is currently on it's 140th re-listing priced at $795 (the nth time).


Indonesian eBay seller fhipe is different kettle of fish. He's another of these nasty little calculating profiteering re-sellers who thinks he's smarter than the rest. Don't forget he's already pulled this stunt with a 7A48-7050 Fishing Master at least once before, in June last year (scroll back up the page). I didn't spot it then, but you can guarantee that one very likely came from Yahoo Japan. If you've got a minute, just take a look at some of the prices this greedy rip-off merchant is trying to ask for his other 7A28 Aliens and Bishop spare parts; bracelets, links, etc.


He's struggling a bit more this time around, possibly as a result of the negative publicity he's getting from this thread.

His price is coming down gradually - from the initial $1495 pie-in-the-sky Buy-it-Now listing (which was ended early):




His latest current re-listing is down to an opening bid price on 'only' $815 (compared to the $557 he paid for it in January):


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221714971244

March 17, 2015 at 7:33 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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No, the main reason I bumped this thread earlier today wasn't actually to take another well-deserved swipe at eBay seller fhipe ....

But given the opportunity, why not ? 


It was to point out that another 7A48-7050 Fishing Master in apparently better condition had recently been listed on Yahoo Japan.


http://page21.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j341139773 

SEIKO セイコー 腕時計 7A48-7050 ムーンフェイズ 



Once you've scrolled down past all the typical YJ Store advertising, Google translates the seller's formatted description as follows:


[SEIKO / Seiko] 7A48-7050 Fishing Master Fishing Master Moonphase Mens Watch 150315


March 17, 2015 at 10:20 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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That Yahoo Japan auction listing only had 4 hours left to run when I took the previous screen print - it ended earlier this afternoon ....

The Fishing Master sold for 35,500 Yen + 8% VAT = 38,340 Yen (equivalent to approx. £214 GBP /  $316 USD) after only 4 bids ....

Some $500 cheaper than would-be profiteering eBay re-seller fhipe is currently asking for his overpriced ex-Yahoo Japan example. 


http://page21.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j341139773


March 17, 2015 at 2:56 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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I must admit it gives me some satisfaction to see a would-be profiteering re-seller struggling to sell a watch on - particularly greedy individuals like Indonesian seller fhipe (real name Jeffry Kartika) and his over-priced ex-Yahoo Japan 7A48-7050 Fishing Master.

It's still unsold, at the time of writing. Here's the last two ended listings from April:



His latest current re-listing (with 10 hours still to run): http://www.ebay.com/itm/ 361292916850 is at the same $715 opening bid price as last time - less than half his original ludicrous 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $1495, but that's still $150 Bucks more than he (over)paid for it back in the first week of January. Long may he (and the rest of his despicable ilk) continue to fail. 


But my purpose in bumping this thread once again wasn't actually to take another well-deserved pop at fhipe

I hadn't run any searches on Yahoo Japan for a few days, but when I did, I spotted this 7A48-7050 Fishing Master.

It's fitted with a non-original bracelet which in some respects looks fairly similar to the original. Bidding is currently @ 15,500 Yen.


http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h201837083 

セイコー フィッシングマスター ムーンクロノ 7A48 



Google translates the seller's Japanese description as follows:

 

The newer one, that there is intention of purchase, sorry to trouble you, but please contact us from the question column.

If not, there is no excuse, because there are things that I am allowed to delete, a missing please understand.

1985 production, model number: 7A48-7050, diameter: 42mm (excluding crown) made ​​of stainless steel.

Dial: in the original, I think that it is beautiful person. The color is ivory.

Glass: There are slight scratches. Case, bezel: small scratch.

Mechanical: cal.7A48 quartz, confirmed operation. Bracelet I do not think is for this watch. Wrist circumference: up to about 18.5cm.

Because I think there is a difference in view of the extent by individuals, the more nervous one withhold Application a bid we have. Since it is an old thing I hope in the current situation. Here also there is also that there is an oversight, so thank you essentially junk treatment.

In addition, inappropriate and seems is play with who you are tendering at minus appraisal. Many like our judgment case, some may be allowed to cancel a bid, please understand it. .....


May 14, 2015 at 1:36 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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For the record, although being fitted with a non-original bracelet, doesn’t really make for fair comparison with the previous examples documented in this thread, the above Yahoo Japan auction for a 7A48-7050 Fishing Master ended a few minutes ago, having been automatically extended by 10 minutes, due to late bids placed. It sold for 28,000 Yen (equivalent to approx. $234.60 US / £149.20) after 17 bids by 10 different bidders.


http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h201837083


May 17, 2015 at 11:21 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Meanwhile, would-be profiteering Indonesian eBay re-seller fhipe has still failed to find a buyer for his over-priced ex-Yahoo Japan 7A48-7050 Fishing Master. His most recent re-listing, with the Buy-it-Now price now reduced to 'only' $645 ended earlier today.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361309536302



It's since been replaced with this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm//361313452978




Do you think anyone is going to bother wasting their time, bidding it up from 99 cents to the meet the reserve ? 


June 5, 2015 at 11:16 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Suppose I ought to add a somewhat belated update to this sorry saga of would-be profiteering by Indonesian eBay re-seller fhipe

If any readers had bothered watching the previous auction listing, in the first week of June, you'll have seen it was only bid to $276. :lol:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm//361313452978



Ironically - and much to my amusement, the high bidder e***o (337) was another would-be profiteering re-seller:


http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=361313452978




None other than Reno-based Skip Laws - the self-styled Watchking1 (full eBay user ID gssales550) - see details of his previous involvement with a 7A48-7050 Fishing Master (between July and September 2011) documented on the first page of this thread.


Needless to say, with his reserve price not met, would-be profiteering re-seller fhipe went back to re-listing it as a Buy-it-Now. :roll:

He re-listed it 4 times (5 day duration) at a B-I-N price of $625, up until 10th July, when he further reduced the price to 'only' $545:



That second re-listing @ $545 was ended early on 24th July: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221832538111



Presumably someone made an offer off eBay and finally put him out of his misery. Hopefully that's the last we'll see of it (and him). 


August 11, 2015 at 4:35 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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