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Seiko7A38 at August 6, 2019 at 9:35 AM

This titanium 7A38-7030 in good used condition was listed on eBay this morning by a Japanese seller (who incidentally has a less than perfect feedback score - worth checking), with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $1399 and currently no option to make an offer. At today's exchange rate, $1399 equates to approx. ¥148,967 Yen - rather more than comparable examples have sold for on Yahoo Japan recently.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323877741320


It's already on 'Special Offer' - price discounted by 10% this afternoon. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323877741320


August 6, 2019 at 1:14 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at August 1, 2019 at 6:07 AM

I find it highly amusing, how the JDM 7A38's seem to pop up on Yahoo Japan in waves - like 'London Bus Syndrome'. The previous 'Store' seller had promoted his listing, for a less than ideal example to N°.1 and the other deluded would-be seller continues to re-list his 7A38-7030 on a daily basis at the same over-optimistic opening bid price. Two days ago, they were joined by a third example, in average worn condition, listed as a 4-day auction, with an opening bid price of 1000 Yen.



Seiko7A38 at August 4, 2019 at 2:32 PM

The other two 7A38-7030's on Yahoo Japan remain unsold and are being re-listed on a daily basis, retaining the same YJ item numbers; their prices still unchanged:

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e371735072

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c759419658




I make no apology for the partial double quote, carried forward from the previous page - it'll save me repeating myself. There has been one slight change, in that the store seller of the badly photographed 7A38-7030, fitted with a non-original bracelet, has since reduced his opening bid price from 73,440 Yen to 'only' 62,640 Yen.



Meanwhile, earlier today, those two unsold 7A38-7030's were joined on Yahoo Japan by yet another example, in generally decent condition, listed as a 7-day auction, with an opening bid price of 65,000 Yen.


https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x638108740



Google translates the Japanese seller's description as follows:


Rare! SEIKO Chronograph 7a38-7030 Quartz Battery replaced

[Product Description]

Manufacturer: SEIKO Seiko

Model number: 7A38-7030

Movement: Quartz

Case: Approx. 3.7cm (excluding crown)

Weight: Approx. 76g

Belt (genuine) Inner: Approx. 17.0cm

* For amateur measurement, an error may arise. Please give me a bid after consent.

[Accessories]

None Main unit only

[Operation status]

Operation confirmed.

The crown can be used to adjust the time, date, and day of the week.

The calendar changes around 24H.

The chronograph is running and reset to zero when reset.

The battery has been replaced in early August 2019.

There is no noticeable day-to-day difference, and there is no deviation at present.

There is a scratch on the right side of the windshield.


August 10, 2019 at 6:39 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The current cavalcade / convoy of titanium 'London Buses' continues unabated. :roll: This latest 7A38-7030 was listed on eBay in the early hours of this morning, by yet another would-be Japanese seller, with a ludicrously over-optimistic 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $1480.36. I'm not sure how they manage to arrive at these odd US Dollar prices, but it's presumably connected with eBay's currency conversion factor. FWIW, at today's exchange rate, $1480.36 equates to approx. ¥155,615 Yen.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264426222778


Vintage 1984 JAPAN SEIKO SPEEDMASTER CHRONOGRAPH 7A38-7030 15Jewels Quartz.


It is indeed worth studing the seller's photos. You'll notice that the watch head is in no better than average worn condition and that the (once red) CHRONOGRAPH dial script is badly faded. Yet the bracelet, by comparison, looks almost like new. I wouldn't mind betting that the watch has benefitted from one of those NOS p/n YA22A bracelets that were flooding eBay and Yahoo Japan a year or two back.


But hang on a minute !! 


It didn't 'click' straight away, but this is another case of (fairly recent) Déjà Vu and blatant profiteering on the part of the would-be Japanese eBay re-seller. This is the same 7A38-7030 which sold on Yahoo Japan, only a week ago for 74,000 Yen ! :o He's now asking the US Dollar equivalent of more than double what he paid !


August 12, 2019 at 6:52 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at August 4, 2019 at 9:32 AM

The above 4-day Yahoo Japan auction for a titanium 7A38-7030 in average worn condition, ended a few moments ago, selling for ¥74,000 Yen after 35 bids, equivalent to approx. $694.25 USD / £570.92 GBP.


https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q304749023



Needless to say, their case-back serial numbers - 446681 match.



August 12, 2019 at 8:41 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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In deference to the foregoing accusation of wilful profiteering, the Japanese eBay re-seller has withdrawn that 7A38-7030 from sale. The Power of the Internet. :)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264426222778



August 13, 2019 at 3:24 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at July 15, 2019 at 2:54 PM

This titanium JDM 7A38-7030 was listed on Yahoo Japan earlier today, as a 3-day auction, with a somewhat highly over-optimistic opening bid price of 130,000 Yen.




http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c759419658


In another slightly bemusing development, the deluded would-be seller oco0910, who first listed his titanium 7A38-7030 on Yahoo Japan in mid-July as a 3-day auction, with a frankly ridiculous opening bid price of 130,000 Yen - and had since continued to automatically re-list it on a daily basis, at the same price - allowed his latest re-listing to expire yesterday, without renewing. Needless to say, no bids were placed, so it presumably remains unsold.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c759419658



August 14, 2019 at 6:10 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Spoke too soon.

It's back again, re-listed on Yahoo Japan this morning as a 'new' 5-day auction listing, with the same risibly over-optimistic opening bid brice of 130,000 Yen. Nothing appears to have changed - not even the YJ item number. :roll:



http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c759419658



August 17, 2019 at 3:33 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Meanwhile, back in the real world, the other recent Yahoo Japan 7-day auction for a titanum 7A38-7030 ended a few moments ago, selling for ¥70,000 Yen after 3 bids. That's equivalent to approx. $658.14 USD / £541.78 GBP. From the 5-digit feedback number of the encrypted winning bidder ID, once again, it looks like the auction was won by an international buyer, using one of the proxy bidding services.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x638108740



August 17, 2019 at 9:21 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Please excuse the slight delay in posting this latest sales result to this particular thread, but I've been otherwise preoccupied (updating lots of other threads with previously missing eBay Best Offer prices). Honestly - I've been keeping busy. 


In fact, I had overlooked to post an earlier update to this thread a week ago. Unlike the deluded YJ seller oco910, the 'Store' seller naohikohayakawa had continued to reduce the opening bid price with each subsequent re-listing of his 7A38-7030 - most recently down to 48,600 Yen (45,000 Yen + 8% Japanese Sales Tax).



His most recent 7-day auction re-listing for that titanium 7A38-7030, fitted with a non-original replacement bracelet, finally managed to attract a few bids. It ended yesterday afternoon, with the bidding at ¥47,500 Yen after 5 bids. Adding the 8% Japanese Sales Tax gives a total sales price of ¥51,300 Yen, equivalent to approx. $484 USD / £395.75 GBP. From the high 5-digit feedback number of the encrypted winning bidder ID, once again, it looks like the auction was won by an international buyer, using one of the proxy bidding services.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e371735072


August 26, 2019 at 11:06 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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And so it goes on. :roll: Deluded YJ seller oco910 continues to stubbornly re-list his titanium 7A38-7030 at the same totally unrealistic 130,000 Yen opening bid price, as if nobody has noticed. Meanwhile earlier today, his regurgitated re-listing was joined by another genuinely new one. This example is in average worn condition, fitted with a non-original Seiko bracelet, which to my untrained eye, looks like a Seiko p/n YB21A off the titanium 7T42-7A10 - commonly used as a replacement for the YA22A.  It's listed a 3-day auction with an opening bid price of 70,000 Yen.



http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m354481850



Google translates the Japanese seller's description as follows:


***** Thank you very much for looking ******

Product contents: All of the posted photos.

-----------------

About arm circumference: 17cm

● Product status: scratches, dirt, peeling of paint, rust, damage, etc., please check the image for details Thank you.

● Operating status: Battery replaced on August 25, 2019. Time, date, and time are moving. Others are unconfirmed, will be handed over as it is, may be completely junk, how about parts removal?

<> Please give me a bid after understanding and understanding of the state of goods.

◆ As it is not specialized about product, please note that there may be other omissions, oversights.

<> I need your help by the no claim and a no return for "used goods."


August 27, 2019 at 4:02 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Not sure whether this is just attention seeking 'Like bait', or if he's actually serious about selling, but I've just spotted this titanium 7A38-7030, in almost mint condition, posted on Instagram a couple of hours ago, by Danish collector Stian (@sand.sti).


https://www.instagram.com/p/B1t1k6VHljj/




The caption reads (no price stated):

FOR SALE: 7A38-7030 All-Titanium JDM in mint condition, dated 1984. DM me for details if seriously interested.


Plus of course, all the usual obligatory hashtag #crap. :roll:


August 28, 2019 at 4:45 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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That Instagram post has accumulated over 200 likes in the last couple of days and one pertinent comment - Cuanto cuesta? (How much ? in Spanish). Still no sign of an asking price, so I reckon he's just fishing. Here's a slightly less flattering wrist shot of the same 7A38-7030, that Stian uploaded to Instagram 5 months ago.


http://www.instagram.com/p/BuwSpQ9H-Vu/



Note the tiny chip in the sapphire crystal, adjacent the '400' mark on the Tachymeter scale, which is also just visible in his other photo,


August 31, 2019 at 6:48 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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It's business as usual over on Yahoo Japan - with a seemingly endless convoy of 'London Buses' to carry the salarymen to work (or on watch shopping expeditions).


The 7A38-7030, in average worn condition, fitted with an incorrect replacement titanium bracelet (p/n YB21A off a 7T42-7A10) which was listed in the last week of August, is still there, unsold at 70,000 Yen. To my surprise, after umpteen re-listings, the deluded would-be YJ seller oco910 has finally seen fit to reduce his unrealistic 130,000 Yen opening bid price, but only by 5,000 Yen to 125,000 Yen. :roll:


Earlier today, those two were joined by a third 7A38-7030 a rather nice example, but it's not exactly 'New' (to us). It was listed as a 2-day auction by a 'Store' seller with a laughable opening bid price of 138,240 Yen (128,000 Yen + 8% Japanese Sales Tax). This is the same 7A38-7030 which was listed on eBay by a Japanese seller in the first week of August. See my post at the bottom of the previous page and the update at the top of this one. For that reason I'm not going to bother re-posting the same 8 photos. Probably no coincidence, but the hefty 138,240 Yen asking price equates to almost exactly $1300 USD - compared to the $1399 they were originally asking on eBay, before they applied the 10% discount.




My apologies for having chopped the listing into segments, before coping and pasting it, but it's the only way to remove the superfluous sidebar advertising.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j589661239



Google translates the formatted Japanese description as follows. It really doesn't tell you much, other than they rank it as condition 'A' and that apart from the scuffed clasp and scratched case-back, 'It is in a beautiful state'.



September 4, 2019 at 12:45 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Well, the month old eBay listing by the Japanese seller hiroki-japan may have just been automatically re-listed for another 30 days, but over on Yahoo Japan, the very same 7A38-7030 appears to have sold yesterday afternoon for the 128,000 opening bid price (+ 8% Japanese Sales Tax). At today's exchange rates, the full tax paid price of ¥138,240 Yen equates to approx $1293 USD / £1052.60 GBP.


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j589661239



September 7, 2019 at 8:51 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Checking my eBay watching page, the Japanese proxy seller did subsequently end their eBay listing as item no longer avaliable - albeit a couple of days later.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323877741320



September 11, 2019 at 3:44 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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