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Another eBay auction for a stainless 7A38-7260 by an Italian seller just ended a few moments ago.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271383792667

Seiko Vintage 7A38




The bi-lingual description was nearly as short as the listing title:

Seiko vintage 7A38 - 7260 in condizioni perfette. 

Seiko vintage 7A38 - 7260 in perfect condition.


Other than being presented on a somewhat incongruous but unfortunately ubiquitous NATO strap, it looked to be in good condition.

It sold for 112 Euros (approx. £91.90) after 9 bids. The identity of the winning eBay ID was (to me at least) a foregone conclusion.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271383792667

February 2, 2014 at 6:20 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Another NOS stainless 7A38-7260 SAA097J listed by Italian eBay seller strega_68 (a.k.a.new forum member Giovanni) earlier today:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121293415848


 

MEGA RARE SEIKO Japan chronograph 7A38 - 7260

7A38 seiko new, never worn

fully functional

part coming from my collection without

tags / box all original seiko.


Unlike the previous allegedly 'all original' NOS example he first listed in April last year (for a ludicrous $1250), relisted umpteen times and finally sold for $250 in late December, this one does appear to be fitted with the correct original Seiko p/n BRA35S leather strap.

Or something pretty close to it. Best I can tell. ;)


March 12, 2014 at 3:24 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Rob Benham
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Does it really have a screw on bezel?

March 12, 2014 at 10:15 PM Flag Quote & Reply

donwatch
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No - notches are just for style. 8)

March 12, 2014 at 10:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Rob Benham at March 12, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Does it really have a screw on bezel?


Sorry, Rob - but again, had you taken the trouble to properly study some of the photos I've posted on the previous page ....




.... it should be pretty obvious that the screw / rivet detailing around the circumference of the fixed eliptical bezel is purely decorative.


March 16, 2014 at 7:55 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Another NOS stainless 7A38-7260 SAA097J listed by Italian eBay seller strega_68 (a.k.a.new forum member Giovanni) earlier today.


Gentlemen (to anybody else who may have possibly been interested in buying it) - I have an admission to make. 


Remembering that his previous NOS stainless 7A38-7260 had sold in December for $250 (the exact same figure I'd offered myself, back in May 2013 - which he summarily declined) .... This morning, I made strega_68 another 'tongue in cheek' offer of $250. 

Giovanni replied, almost immediately, with a very reasonable counter-offer price of $270 (against his Buy-it-Now of $800).

What else could I do, but accept ? :D


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121293415848

March 16, 2014 at 8:04 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Here's a stainless 7A38-7260 that's just been listed by a Romanian eBay seller:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221550684425



Vintage SEIKO CHRONOGRAPH MULTIFUNCTIONS CALENDAR Ref. 7A38 MENS WATCH.

Quartz Japan movement , dial in very good conditions , day/date calendar , multifunctions , chronograph. Without scratches on the glass , all functions okay , mens watch !

PLEASE SEE THE PICTURES , PRE OWNED WATCH !!

Send registered shipping with tracking number. For any questions , please contact me. Thank you !!


From the number of light scratches and dings around the bezel, the glass (crystal) has obviously been replaced. Maybe it's the reflections in the seller's photos that give the wrong impression of it being slightly domed (as opposed to flat as it should be). Nor can I quite make out the nylon gasket, so perhaps it's been glued in. But that said, a watch with potential. Re-polish the bezel; re-brush the case lugs; lose that God-awful canvas strap and replace it with something more appropriate in leather - and you could have the makings of a nice little watch.


September 16, 2014 at 8:11 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Nearly forgot to mention .... The eBay auction for the aformentioned 7A38-7260 ended yesterday lunchtime @ $74 after 21 bids:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221550684425


I recognise the winning bidder ID 1***b (621) - who sniped it in the final seconds, as that belonging to UK collector Bob Barkell.


September 24, 2014 at 3:54 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Makes a refreshing change to see a stainless 7A38-7260 listed on eBay at a sensible price - especially in Italy. :lol:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301393662604

 

STUPENDO CRONOGRAFO SEIKO VINTAGE,FUNZIONATE.BATTERIA PROSSIMA ALL'ESAURIMENTO. 

CINTURINO MORELLATO NUOVO IN CAUCCIU' CON CHIUSURA DI SICUREZZA. 

ORIGINALE ,VETRO PERFETTO ,L'OROLOGIO E' QUELLO DELLA FOTO 

MOD 7A38-7260




Pity about the upside-down Tachymeter ring, that completely unsuitable Morellato rubber strap fitted and the 29 Euros shipping. :roll:


November 14, 2014 at 1:03 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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A slightly unusual listing for a stainless 7A38-7260 appeared on eBay Italy yesterday evening. Were it not for for the existence of this model-specific thread and the possiblity of how it was created, under normal circumstances I'd probably be posting this in the ....

Yet another 7Axx on an undisclosed non-original bracelet thread


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151495734046



The watch's components may well genuinely be NOS, but sure as eggs is eggs, this ain't how it left the Seiko factory. Seiko may have created a few special 7A38 models for the Italian market, but there's no way that they'd have fitted a mis-matched two tone bracelet to an all-stainless watch head. If you look up 7A38-7260 SAA097 on Seiko's database (as I did, as a quick sanity check) ....



.... You'll see there was a B version. However, just like the normal J versions, its parts list calls up p/n BRA35S black leather strap.


Without needing to study the eBay seller's photos too closely and even without sight of the reverse of the bracelet end pieces, I think I can confidently state that this watch head has been fitted with a p/n G1334C bracelet off a 7A38-724A SAA086J - a two-tone variant using the same basic watch case, which appears to be unique to the Italian market.


I believe what we're now looking at are the unsold residuals from a successful sale by an obliging Italian Seiko dealer. Customer comes into the shop - likes the 7A38-724A (which didn't have a leather strap option) and says he'd like to buy the watch, but on a leather strap. Quick swap. Sale made. G1334C bracelet chucked on the stockroom shelf and left there gathering dust for 25 years.


November 30, 2014 at 5:19 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Here's a stainless 7A38-7260 fitted with an unusual two-tone leather strap, listed earlier this evening by a German eBay seller:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281660671463



Verkaufe sehr schönen Seiko Chronograph. Typ 7A38-7260. Die Uhr hat letzte Woche beim Uhrmacher eine neue Batterie, ein neues Glas und ein neues schönes Lederarmband in dunklem rot/braun mit schwarz erhalten. Das Uhrwerk läuft genau mit Datum und Stopuhrfunktion. Privatverkauf, keine Rücknahme oder Garantie.


Note, like many other examples (see particularly the previous page), this one also has a 777xxx serial number.


April 12, 2015 at 3:19 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above eBay auction for the stainless 7A38-7260 ended a few minutes ago, selling for 106 Euros (approx. £76.35) after 14 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281660671463

April 19, 2015 at 2:10 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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There's a potential bargain buy stainless 7A38-7260 on eBay Spain, if anybody fancies taking a bit of a gamble. Listed yesterday evening by Cash Converters, with a Buy-it-Now price of only 35 Euros. :o Thought about it myself briefly, but then I checked their feedback (dozens of negatives) and decided it probably wasn't worth the hassle. :/


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122072417665



August 5, 2016 at 2:36 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I didn't expect that to hang around very long at that bargain basement price. Sold a little over an hour after I posted about it.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122072417665


Anybody on here pick it up ? :|


August 5, 2016 at 6:36 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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I've made no secret of my utter contempt for eBay sellers who use keyword spamming, particularly the word 'Military', to draw attention to their otherwise lackluster offerings of what are patently 'civilian' watches. I even wrote a thread up in the eBay section:

More eBay bullsh!t - Another civilian 7Axx masquerading as Military

I don't care who it is - and I've no qualms about naming and shaming. :P

So I make no apologies to erstwhile forum member 'Woody', a.k.a. serial flipper and UK watch dealer Ian Woodland.

A well worn stainless 7A38-7260 dress watch on a cheap NATO strap does not make it a Pilot / Divers / Military watch.

And they're not that hard to find, either.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232043045958


I've only bothered uploading half of Woody's 12 photos - as most are very similar (wrist shots).




Hi this very nice looking 7a38-7260 from july 1987 15 jewels. Seiko tachymeter chronograph pilot divers lovely metallic Black subs dial has 36 mm bezel ,40mm case and crown ,quartz day/date chronograph , has a very cool design dial love how easy too see White sec & sub hands, The watch is in used condition . I think these were a good buy as you get a one off looking watch that's is a very good price as these cost a bit new last of the very well made 15 jewels seikos they do not make like this now days,see photos. Keeping good very good time.

 

A WELL USED CLEAN AND IS RUNNING VERY STRONG AND KEEPING TIME . GREAT FOR ANY SEIKO COLLECTOR AND IS READY WEAR 

WATCH DETAILS 

* CASE MEASURING 36 MM BEZEL 39 MM WITH CROWN , 49 MM FROM LUG TO LUG ,20 MM LUGS ,IN OK OVERALL CONDITION YOU CAN TELL IT IS A GOOD WATCH BY THE WAY IT MADE JUST TAKE A LOOK THE PHOTOS OF IT. 

* ORIGINAL BLACK METALLIC DIAL WITH RAISED SILVER MARKERS AND IT HAS LOVELY SECS HANDS SUB DIAL HANDS IN WHITE . CONDITION IS MINT AND WHAT A VERY NICE DESIGN IT IS JUST LOOK AT THE PHOTOS OF DIAL AND THE WAY LOOKS MUST BE ONE OF THE BEST I HAVE SEEN WHEN YOU SEE YOURSELF YOU WILL SEE WHAT I MEAN VERY COOL WATCH THIS ONE SEE PHOTO. 

* ORIGINAL SILVER HANDS WITH WHITE SUB HANDS VERY COOL 

* ORIGINAL CRYSTAL HAS SCRATCHES 

* ORIGINAL SILVER SS CASE NICE CONDITION JUST A FEW MARKS ON THE CASE & BEZEL IS VERY GOOD 

* ORIGINAL 15 JEWELS QUARTZ MOVEMENT 

* ORIGINAL STAINLESS STEEL CASE BACK THAT HAS SOME MARKS SERIAL NUMBER 777112 SO IT'S JULY 1997 7A38-7260 

*NEW NATO WILL FIT UP TO 8+ INCH WRIST OR LESS .


You'll note that like a few previously mentioned examples, Woody's 7A38-7260 has a 777xxx (July 1987) serial number.

It also looked rather familiar. ;) Indeed, I'd mentioned it's previous eBay appearances on the first page of this thread ....


August 19, 2016 at 2:55 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at April 28, 2013 at 7:39 AM

Here are some photos I'd saved from older eBay listings (some of which I don't have item numbers for, nor the prices they sold for).


This stainless 7A38-7260 was listed on eBay in October 2011. I think it was by a UK seller, but I can't be sure.




Case and bezel (particularly near 2 o'clock) have numerous light dings and scratches, although the strap may well have been original.



7A38-7260 s/n 777112 re-appeared on eBay in April 2013 ....


August 19, 2016 at 3:15 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at April 28, 2013 at 7:48 AM

What prompted me to start this topic was another 'somewhat lesser' example listed on eBay by the UK seller 'sa194949' earlier today:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350781539505




Rare 1980s Seiko Quartz Chronograph 7A38-7260 Day/Date Tachymeter, Black Dial.

 

Condition. Very Good

Brand. Seiko

Case Size. 38mm Diameter

Case Stainless Steel

Strap Military type fabric. Excellent condition.

Dial Excellent

Movement Seiko Quartz

Case Condition. Good condition

Strap Condition. -

Crystal condition Good condition. A few light scratches.

Movement Condition. Working order and keeping good time. Chronograph all working

Additional Information. C 1980s


Apart from the rather over-ambitious Buy-it-Now asking price £175 (no offers) and claiming that it's 'Rare', which this model isn't ....

By claiming that the dial is 'Black', (rather than it's true metallic dark grey colour), and by fitting it with a cheap Olive Green NATO strap, the seller is clearly trying to appeal to 'military-look' watch collectors. This isn't a miltary watch - it's actually quite dressy. 



To save you turning back to page 1 ....


August 19, 2016 at 3:24 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at April 28, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Edit(s): I just noticed the case-back serial number of this most recently listed stainless 7A38-7260 - it's 777112.

Scroll back up the page to the eBay listing photos from October 2011 and you'll see it's exactly the same watch ....

Which may also have been originally fitted (at that time) with the correct original Seiko p/n BRA35S leather strap.

Those photos give a rather clearer picture of the fairly pitted condition of the case and bezel. Caveat Emptor, Gentlemen. 


The watch went unsold first time around and was re-listed a few hours later for the same over-optimistic £175.00 Buy-it-Now price:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221223502612 .... and once again, 7 days later, it was unsold:


Belated edits: It was subsequently re-listed twice @ £150 as eBay item #'s 221230595820 and 221235108178 and again went unsold.

The seller declined an offer of £75 (against his 2nd £150 listing). It was re-listed twice more in June, further reduced to @ £135 as #'s 221238379868 and 221241634224. The seller declined a low-ball offer of £50 against the latter, before reducing it once again to £95

for which it finally sold on 5th July: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350827769518


And there's more besides - it didn't quite end there ! :roll:


August 19, 2016 at 3:26 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at August 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM

I daren't ask (what the error was this time). 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221271557143



Suffice to say, this person, Stephen Adams is another eBay business seller I would give a very wide berth to. 



One assumes it was Woody who made the seller a (lower) offer outside eBay and finally put him out of his misery. :/

August 19, 2016 at 3:38 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Woody's mis-titled 10-day eBay auction listing for a well-worn civilian 7A38-7260 on a NATO ended yesterday evening, selling for £103.51 after 41 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232043045958


August 29, 2016 at 3:37 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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