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Rob Benham
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The problem is, Paul, in a world where a handbag is often 25,000 quid and some, used, 230,000, I think a nice pilot's watch is good value at, what?  Well, just throw a figure into the air.


March 10, 2018 at 3:15 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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I had read that recent BBC Business News article, Rob. ;)


Anyway, to get this thread back on track before you derail it any further ....


I was going through my eBay Watching list this afternoon, clearing out some old crap (to make room for more over-priced crap that I have no intention of buying) and realized I'd omitted to post a result from over a week ago. 


March 11, 2018 at 11:03 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at February 15, 2018 at 5:42 AM

Speaking of speculatively over-priced offerings ....

Remember that job lot pairing of a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 and 7T27-7A20, that was listed on eBay Germany, just before Christmas ? (If not just scroll back up to the top of this page). Well it's back again - re-listed yesterday evening. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152907818901



So how much is a pair of Seiko pilot's watches worth ? :P


Not 1650 Euros, nor the 1400 Euros he subsequently reduced them to, but ....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152907818901



As revealed by WatchCount.com's Look-up tool, they finally sold for 1200 Euros.



March 11, 2018 at 11:19 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at March 9, 2018 at 4:38 AM

Yesterday evening, regular UK eBay seller britishmilitarysurplus listed another 7A28-7120 in his customary manner, as a 3-day auction with an opening bid price of £400. In this instance, it would probably be wise to read his description, which he edited this morning (presumably copying the additional text from elsewhere), because it now appears to contradict itself. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401504059703


The latest 3-day eBay auction listing by UK seller britishmilitarysurplus ended yesterday evening, selling for £605 after 5 bids.


March 12, 2018 at 5:00 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at March 6, 2018 at 3:43 PM

This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed this afternoon, by a UK eBay seller, with an opening bid price of £100 (and no reserve).


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232689038580


The above (quoted) 7-day UK eBay auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 ended this afternoon, selling for £720 after 19 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232689038580


March 13, 2018 at 3:19 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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A little more than 20 minutes later, another rather more expensive 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 appeared on eBay, to take its place: listed by a UK business seller, with a possibly over-optimistic Buy-it-Now price of £1250, but the option to make an offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162943860589


Seiko chronograph Gen 1 RAF-issued 6645-99 7683056 1990 GULF WAR

Issued primarily to Royal Air Force pilots and navigators from 1984 until 1990

Case size 37mm

Lug width with fixed bars 20mm

Military issued watch with caseback numbers 6645-99 7683056 10322/90

Issued 1990 around time of Gulf War

Model 7A28-7120 AD


March 13, 2018 at 3:38 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 'Head Only', with a fault on the 30 minute counting sub-dial, was listed at lunchtime today, by a UK eBay seller, as a 7-day auction with an opening bid price of £300.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142722612061


I have for sale my 1988 issued Seiko Gen 1 British Military Issued Watch.

The watch has recently had a new battery fitted and keeps excellent time.

The 1/10th Sec Chronograph at 3 O’Clock works perfectly.

The 30 minute Chronograph at 9 O’Clock has stopped working.

Please bear this in mind when bidding.

The watch is otherwise in excellent condition. A few marks on it from service but nothing drastic as can be seen in the photos.

Please don’t hesitate to ask questions.


March 15, 2018 at 12:21 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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A couple of timely updates, reference the speculatively over-priced 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 listed by UK eBay seller superlativetime (see my penultimate post).


I tend not to watch these things as closely as I might, simply because I've got better things to do. But it seems the seller had ended the first listing, re-listed it again and ended that listing, early this morning. Presumably the errors were in the pricing. :P


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162943860589






For the latest re-listing he'd reduced the Buy-it-Now price by £200 ....


I use past tense, because it appears to have sold about 15 minutes ago, not quite for the reduced Buy-it-Now price of £1050 ....



But as revealed by WatchCount.com's Look-up tool for an offer of £1000.



As confirmed by the eBay Purchase History:


March 16, 2018 at 7:34 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The 7-day eBay auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 'Head Only', by uk seller stephenjohnhill ended at lunchtime today, selling for £596 after 14 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142722612061


March 22, 2018 at 1:38 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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I suppose I should briefly mention this one, albeit somewhat belatedly. :roll:

This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 'Head Only' was listed yesterday evening by a UK eBay seller, supposedly as a 5-day auction with an opening bid price of £325. The seller had a photo of the rather badly scratched case-back as his primary image, but granted it did look slightly better the right way up.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Seiko-Gen-1/273126319635


Hi welcome seiko gen 1 1988 in worn condition all working 2 straps thanks for looking.


Academic as it turns out, because the seller ended the listing this morning, before any bids had been placed. Presumably sold off eBay. :/


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273126319635


March 25, 2018 at 10:25 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Still, as I've written many times before, there'll always be another one along soon. Indeed, this 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed later this morning, by another UK eBay seller, with a Buy-it-Now price of £750, or the option to make an offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162963808021


Here we have my Seiko Gen 1 RAF military watch. It is in full working order. Not wearing it much since I got an issued CWC divers. Any questions just ask.

No returns on this watch, but as you can see with my feedback , I'm an honest guy!

International sales will cost more in postage.


March 25, 2018 at 10:46 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The above listing for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 ended yesterday evening, when it sold for the Buy-it-Now price of £750.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162963808021


The eBay Offer / Purchase History shows the seller declined earlier lower offers ranging between £500 and £700.


March 26, 2018 at 3:51 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Looks like I nearly missed one, while I was out today (except my saved searches caught it). ;) This morning, regular UK eBay seller britishmilitarysurplus listed another untested non-running 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, with a Buy-it-Now price of £550. It sold earlier this evening, about an hour ago.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302687075529

March 29, 2018 at 3:42 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at March 28, 2017 at 8:48 AM

Here's another average condition 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 that was listed on Yahoo Japan auctions yesterday with a 'prompt decision price' (meaning Buy-it-Now) of 155,000 Yen. The seller has embedded another 5 good quality photos in the listing description.



http://page3.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c594261553



It's now one year since that 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was first listed on Yahoo Japan (see Page 26 of this thread). The would-be Japanese seller subsequently reduced the price to 151,000 around August last year (IIRC) and had stubbornly continued to re-list it almost continuously ad nauseam. Or so I thought. In fact, that particular listing ended in mid-December last year - and having got so used to seeing it in my search results (and ignoring it) I'd failed to spot they'd re-listed it. After all the current listing does look very similar to the previous one. 




http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e261362492


The subtle difference is that the Japanese seller is now using a different user ID: cliper505 instead of sabit505 - otherwise it's obviously the same watch and price.


March 30, 2018 at 3:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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What reminded me of that one, was the appearance on eBay earlier today of a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 'Head Only', listed by a Japanese seller - with a ludicrous 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $2436 (or the option to make an offer). I have a feeling that this one will also be with us for some time to come. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323179271370



March 30, 2018 at 4:10 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at February 15, 2018 at 5:35 AM

This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed early yesterday morning, by a UK eBay seller,  with a risible 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of £1125 - and currently no option to make an offer. Note the seller's smartass choice of eBay user ID - prices4u2nv (prices for you to envy). No envy here - just mild bemusement ! :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142689714987


Well that's one more I can delete off my eBay watching list. Re-listing ended by the seller at lunchtime today, as item no longer available.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132540024310


April 2, 2018 at 12:52 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Here's another over-optimistically priced 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, which I suspect will probably eventually go the same route. This 'Head Only' was listed yesterday evening by a Thai eBay seller with a Buy-it-Now price of $1350 and currently no option to make an offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263583129322


Here is a serviced British Military SEIKO 7A28-7120 stamped 9855/90, meaning it was Gulf War era issued in 1990.

The watch is in superb and original condition, considering where it has been. The case has a few tiny marks but unless these were pointed out you really can't see them. The movement works exactly as it should, all functions start/stop and reset as designed. Watch was completely serviced last week, cleaned with new rubber gaskets on all 4 pushers and a new battery, the watch runs perfectly. The pushers are clean and not sticky, and the dial is superb with original hour/minute and subdial hands. These are becoming harder to find in this condition. Watch comes on an olive green NATO strap.

Movement: 7A28 chronograph, continuous Seconds, 1/10seconds, 60 seconds, 30 min.

6645: British MoD RAF Wristwatch, 99: NATO code for UK, 7683056: Nato Specification MSN number, 8750: I.D number, 89: issued in 1989.

Case: 37mm.

Lugs: 20mm fixed bars.

Price includes ems shipping with tracking and insurance worldwide.

If you want to see vdo clips of the watch please add my line account precioustoys


April 3, 2018 at 12:17 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Yesterday morning, the Thai eBay seller ended their listing, because of an error in the listing - presumably in the pricing. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263583129322



They re-listed it almost immediately, changing the buying format to a 7-day auction, with an opening bid price of $999.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/263586111511

April 5, 2018 at 3:26 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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That same 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 which has now been re-listed ad nauseam on Yahoo Japan for over a year - see my post higher up this page (of March 30, 2018 @ 8:35 PM) was listed on eBay in the early hours of this morning, presumably by the same person, but using a Japanese proxy selling service, with an absolutely ludicrous Buy-it-Now price of  $2180  (or the option to make an offer). $2180 USD equates to 234,168 Yen at current exchange rates (compared to the 151,000 Yen asking price on Yahoo Japan), so that's an additional mark-up of 55% on a price that already hasn't sold in a year. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/282913849587



SEIKO 's British Air Force RAF' s GEN. 1 (7A28- 7120) chronograph watch.

SEIKO was requested to manufacture from MOD (UK Ministry of Defense)

It was not supplied from October 1984 to November 1990.

This item became the British Army's first quartz clock.

The "P" mark on the dial indicating that promethium is used as a luminescent paint.

The number released by the British army is limited, even in the UK is rare.

On the back lid

SEIKO STAINLESS STEEL WATER RESISTANT JAPAN S

7A28-7120A0

6645-99

7683056

Broad Arrow Mark

9152/89

954144

There is an engraved mark.

For everyday use, of course, it is also ideal for collections.

【Basic information】

● Size: Case diameter/37mm (without crown) 39mm (including crown) Thickness/9mm

●Movement: SEIKO quartz made in 1989

●Case: made of stainless steel

●Glass: 30mm plastic glass

●Belt: NATO strap with 20mm wide steel buckle (made from gray nylon)

●15jewels chronograph fluorescent needle index

【State】

●The original dial is very beautiful. There are some scratches on the glass.

●The case is rubbing with aging, there are scratches, but it is in good condition.

●If the movement is operated for one day, the error is in seconds in flat place.

●The operation of the crown and chronograph etc. is normal.


As if the ludicrous asking price wasn't enough of a deterrent, there's this part:


International Buyers

Please Note: Import duties, taxes and charges are not included in the item price or shipping charges. These charges are the buyer's responsibility.

Please check with your country's customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding/buying.

These charges are normally collected by the delivering freight (shipping) company or when you pick the item up - do not confuse them for additional shipping charges.

We do not mark merchandise values below value or mark items as "gifts" - US and International government regulations prohibit such behavior.


April 6, 2018 at 4:55 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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That Thai eBay seller seems determined to sell his 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 - at any price. His most recent 7-day auction listing, with an opening bid price of $999, ended yesterday without any bids placed. He's since re-listed it as another 7-day auction, with an opening bid price of only $9.99 and no reserve. Kudos to him !


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263601299257


April 12, 2018 at 6:46 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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