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Another belated restrospective result, though I am catching up with my posting. ;)


This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed yesterday morning, by an Italian eBay seller with a slightly over-optimistic Buy-it-Now price of 1150 Euros, or the option to make an offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264298873623


Up for sell this gorgeous watch, coming from the first batch of production (1984 is the first year of production), with very low serial number, for the RAF helicopter pilots.

This watch is a really military watch, specifically developed for an intense use, without anything esle that could be useful for the purpose it was designed for.

The dial is really clear, the glass is perfect and the case has only few marks that remember that it was used in military missions.

The movement was completely overhauled some months ago and is really really precise.

It comes with its original brown nylon/leather strap (really really difficult to find with the watch and to see it in this condition), another nato strap in dark grey colour produced by Nato Phoenix Strap (that was the original supplier of straps for the RAF in the 80's and maybe in the 90's), and some transparent round stickers to protect the caseback with assignment codes.


It sold yesterday evening, but not quite for the full Buy-it-Now asking price.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264298873623

WatchCount.com's Look-up tool reveals it sold for a best offer of 1050 Euros.



April 27, 2019 at 5:42 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head Only, in need of what sounds like a minor repair (hands pulling, straightening and realigning), was listed yesterday evening by a UK eBay seller as a 10-day auction with an opening bid price of £250.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153466726994


Military Aviator's Watch Seiko 7A28-7120 which has seen (and told) time on operations around the world. Needs repairs. As the minute hand tries to pass under the long second hand on the main dial it drags it around with it. Condition is Used. New battery. No strap. Dispatched Royal Mail 1st Class.


April 28, 2019 at 1:55 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head Only was listed earlier this morning by a Canadian eBay seller, with a laughable 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $2300 Cdn (equivalent to $1707 US), or the option to make a much lower, more sensible offer. I'm not sure what's actually 'AMAZING' about this average condition example, other than the seller's asking price. Similarly over-priced offerings by this Canadian seller gnomon.graph (also using his previous eBay ID mahc1234) have featured earlier in this thread. Generally they take a while to sell. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323792154567



For sale is an honest, beautiful Seiko 7a28-7120 Gen 1 RAF. This is a watch issued to the Royal Air Force and I believe was dated 1990. I'm sure this watch no longer needs any introductions if you're interested in this piece.

The dial is in great condition, pretty much perfect.

Hands are in great condition, pretty much perfect as well.

Case is in very good condition, some scratches and small dings as expected from a 20-30 year old watch, but nothing major.

7a28 movement runs very well with a new battery. Chronograph function is running flawlessly as well. Service history unknown.

Crown works as it should.

Crystal is very clean, almost no scratches.

Head only sale!

Please let me know if you have any questions.


April 29, 2019 at 4:44 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at April 23, 2019 at 2:51 PM

Yet another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed by another UK eBay seller, late yesterday evening as a 10-day auction with a low start opening bid price of £0.99. This only average condition example is suffering from manky hands hume, but that doesn't seem to be deterring potential buyers. At the time of writing, bidding has already reached £383, after less than 24 hours of the auction.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183784298590


The above quoted 10-day UK eBay auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, with manky hands lume, ended a few moments ago, selling for £699.11 after 15 bids.


May 2, 2019 at 5:20 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The first new eBay listing, this month, for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 appeared late this afternoon, listed by a UK eBay seller as a 7-day auction listing, with a low start opening bid price of £0.99. At the time of writing, bidding has aleady reached £360.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113736127812


Seiko Gen 1 Military RAF Fast Jet Pilots Watch , Gulf War, Tornado !. Condition is Used. Dispatched with Royal Mail Special Delivery (TM) 1:00 pm.

On 03-May-19 at 19:39:32 BST, seller added the following information:

Sorry !! Forgot to add , condition is above average.

Keeping spot on time. All dials reset to zero. No lume loss !

Comes with standard nato strap and bund strap thrown in.

Good luck and thanks for viewing.


May 3, 2019 at 3:18 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The 10-day UK eBay auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head Only, in need of minor repair, ended a few moments ago, selling for £650 afrer 18 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153466726994


May 7, 2019 at 4:05 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head only was listed this morning by a Zero-feedback Italian eBay seller with a 'pie-in-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $1400, or the option to make an offer and hefty UPS shipping charges of $101.61 ! :o


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183804513288


Up for your consideration is a wonderful example of a Seiko Gen.1 chronograph for RAF Pilots, issued in 1988 as per markings on the caseback.

This is the rarer and much sought-after first generation of this military chronograph and features the highly-praised and painstakingly accurate 7A28 quartz caliber, with 15 jewels and all-metal parts - a true gem of a movement.

The watch is in nigh-on perfect condition considering its age - has the usual wear and tear on the case, as one would expect from a genuine military issued watch; both crystal and hands are in pristine condition. Service history is unknown to me, but the watch has run flawlessly ever since i got it in 2013 and it's just had a new battery freshly installed and it's running perfectly - the chronograph operates faultlessly and the dial and hands are immaculate and show no sign of discolouration and still glow remarkably well.

Selling the watch as is, with a generic case and no strap.

I will ship internationally via DHL after payment has been made. Payment must be carried out through PayPal Verified.

Thanks.


May 9, 2019 at 3:03 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The phrase 'a Zero-feedback Italian eBay seller' should have been enough to set the alarm bells ringing. :roll: The above 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head Only supposedly sold on Thursday evening, for the full $1400 Buy-it-Now price.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183804513288

According to the eBay Purchase History, both amusingly and somewhat ironically it was allegedly purchased by a newly created Zero Feedback bidder !! :lol:




Unfortunately, eBay appears to have since deleted all evidence of this transaction.


Which makes it something of a surprise to see that the same Zero feedback Italian seller had re-listed it yesterday afternoon ! :o It's the same watch, just the order of the photos have been shuffled slightly. The 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price has been increased from the previous $1400 to $1650 - and FWIW, the shipping cost reduced from $101 to 'only' $60. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183805952144

It's also fairly obvious from the familar phrasing (and good English) that this Italian eBay seller is copying his descriptions almost verbatim from previous ended listings for 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1's by UK eBay sellers. This one reads:


If you're reading this it is safe to assume you know a thing or two about this watch. Quite simply, one of the most sought-after military watches out there, the legendary Seiko Gen.1 chronograph for RN pilots of the RAF.

Make no mistake here: this is the first and definitely rarer generation of its type, with the highly-praised 7A28 movement with all-metal parts and 15 jewels.

The watch features fixed lugs, as per mil.spec of the time it was issued, a simple yet elegant black dial with three sub-registers in the classic Tricompax fashion at 3-6-9 o'clock positions, white hands and markers that still glow remarkably well despite its age; the watch was issued for active service in 1988 - all the military markings and distinctive broad arrow sing can be seen on the caseback, which shows some hairline scratches for battery change.

Service history is unknown to me; the watch has had a new battery freshly installed and it's running flawlessly, and the chrono functions all work as they should.

Any questions feel free to ask me.

I will accept payment through PayPal only.

I ship internationally.

Thanks.


Two words (take your pick): Caveat Emptor or RUN AWAY !! 


May 11, 2019 at 5:15 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The most recent 7-day UK eBay auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 ended yesterday afternoon, selling for £920 after 20 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113736127812


May 11, 2019 at 6:03 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed by another UK eBay seller yesterday morning, with a Buy-it-Now price of £795 (and currently no option to make an offer).


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173900766956


Vintage 1990 Seiko 7A28 7120 Gen 1 RAF Military Pilots Chronograph Watch,

Issue number 9868 making it one of the very last Gen 1's to be issued to the military,

All buttons function smoothly and all the hands reset to zero as they should,

New battery and Zuludiver strap fitted,

Very good condition with some signs of wear as to be expected of a military watch,

UK Postage Only.

(Will be Posted Royal Mail Special Delivery)


May 13, 2019 at 3:41 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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At lunchtime today, UK eBay seller forpik listed another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head Only, with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of £1350 and no option to make an offer. As is also now customary with his listings, the lurid green second part of his description is replete with the usual foreign-sounding spelling mistakes.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233230433641


May 17, 2019 at 10:12 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed by another UK eBay seller, yesterday evening as 7-day auction, with an opening bid price of £850. Presumably the seller is expecting it to make more than that. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233231407489


Issued Seiko RAF pilot's watch 1984 dated 'Generation 1'.

Keeping good time all functions appear to work and has standard British military fixed strap bars.

It was issued in 1984 which was the first year this excellent watch came into service - and is thought to be the most desirable year.

This watch was actually issued to a pilot so please don't expect it to be flawless - case has some marks. The case does have a reasonable 'dint' at 3 o'clock on it (see pics) but overall I'd say it was in good condition.

Rear markings are 6645-99 7683056 serial number 2598/84.

Will be sent Special Delivery.

Feel free to ask any questions.


May 20, 2019 at 2:10 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 just came up in a saved search notification from LiveAuctioneers, who inform me that: Search alerts are now smarter than ever. :roll:

It's Lot # 8742 of an auction being held by Great Estates Auctioneers & Appraisers of Port Jervis, NY, USA on Saturday, June 8th, starting @ 10:00 PM BST. Here's one who won't be staying up to watch it. :P The opening bid price is $500, with an estimate of $1000 - $1500, to which you'll need to add 23% Buyer's Premium, plus shipping costs - and if considering importing into the UK, another 20% VAT and Customs clearance charges on top. So it's unlikely to be anybody's bargain. 


http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/72176144

SEIKO GEN RAF RN MILITARY ISSUED PILOTS WRISTWATCH



May 22, 2019 at 9:42 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at May 13, 2019 at 3:41 AM

Another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed by another UK eBay seller yesterday morning, with a Buy-it-Now price of £795 (and currently no option to make an offer).


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173900766956


Apart from cluttering up my already congested eBay watching page with this crap, which I have no real interest in, I do get annoyed with some eBay sellers who play games with their listings. It's not as if I haven't got anything better to do than keep track of their shenanigans.


I hadn't bothered to mention previously, but over the last week or so, UK eBay seller grebert09 had revised his listing for his less than stellar 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 a few times, including reducing his Buy-it-Now price from £795 to £750 and shuffling the order of his photos around. Early this morning, he ended the listing, because the item was allegedly no longer available. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173900766956



Needless to say 30 seconds later it was back on eBay again, re-listed. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173912342821


May 24, 2019 at 6:42 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Earlier this morning, UK eBay seller grebert09 once again re-listed his less than stellar 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, this time with the Buy-it-Now price reduced to £695.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173914238300


It sold a couple of hours later:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173914238300


May 26, 2019 at 9:38 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head Only was listed in the early hours of this morning, by a UK eBay seller, as a 7-day auction, with an opening bid price of £500. I was initially going to comment sarcastically about the seller's slightly unusual choice of listing title - it's not as if it was any kind of limited edition, was it ? :roll: But then I spotted something even better in his description, which is full of semi-relevant crap, presumably intended as a less than subtle attempt at keyword spamming. Seems he can't even get the basic facts right (see the formatted part).


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143268186666


SEIKO PILOT WATCH 7A28

Description

This is 7758 of 11307 making it a 1988 issue.

6645-99

7683056

7758/88

Unfortunately comes without the box, instruction manual and strap.

It has sat in a drawer for many years but after putting a new battery in has kept time perfectly for the last few weeks.



ISSUES

Seiko has been supplying military-grade watches to the UK’s Ministry of Defence (MoD) for more than three decades, and this relationship started with the 7A28 movement. In the mid 1980s, the watchmaker released its Seiko 7A28-7120 variant with reference number SPR047 and NATO Stock Number (NSN) 6645-99-768-3056 to be used by the ministry’s Royal Air Force (RAF). Gen. 1 RAF-issued Seiko watches were on the wrists of British Air Force pilots and navigators from October 1984 until November 1990. The 7A28 movement was replaced by the Seiko 7T27 caliber in 1993.[11] Other than the MoD, Seiko also supplied the South African Air Force (SAAF) with its 7A28 movement (7A28-7040 / 7A38-7070) between 1985 to 1986.[12,13] It replaced the Swiss automatic chronograph Lemania 5012 which the SAAF procured in 1980.

PRODUCTION

Seiko started production of its caliber 7A28 in 1980 and went on to release watches with this movement to the consumer market as well as supplied them to the military. It is believed Seiko supplied a total of 11,307 pieces of the 7A28 watches to the RAF[11], while it provided the SAAF with 850 Seiko 7A28 units.[12] The company produced the 7A28 for roughly a decade or so before the series was phased out in the 1990s. Production run finally ended around 1992. Seiko replaced the 7A28 movement with the less expensive 7T12 movement.


May 26, 2019 at 9:39 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at April 17, 2019 at 4:44 PM

Seiko7A38 at January 20, 2019 at 1:13 PM

UK eBay seller oldfella_50 listed another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 this afternoon, with a Buy-it-Now price of £1100, or the option to make an offer. As with his 'last' previous eBay listing, the primary image is nicely composed, a less than subtle hint of RAF service. From memory this is the 5th time he's listed one (at least from what I could find posted earlier in this thread), which more points to him being a dealer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183645093745


I'm not sure why that one took so long to sell, but checking my eBay watching page, I noticed this 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 listed by UK eBay seller oldfella_50, back in January, had finally sold this morning, for a slightly reduced Buy-It-Now price of £1000. Actually, if you check the eBay Purchase History, the fact that he'd declined every offer he received probably explains why. Obviously holding out for £1000.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183645093745


With apologies for the double quote - it's just to provide the recent back history.

The photos may be slightly different, but this is the same 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, listed by UK eBay seller oldfella_50 which supposedly eventually sold last month. He re-listed late this afternoon, evidently due to a non-paying buyer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183825538226


SEIKO GEN 1 RAF ISSUED QUARTZ CHRONOGRAPH WATCH 1990. Condition is Used. FULL WORKING ORDER

Please view the photographs as they form part of the description

This is one of the last GEN 1 Chronographs ISSUED BY THE MOD TO RAF PILOT/Navigators

STAINLESS STEEL CASE WITH SCREW BACK

UNMARKED CRYSTAL

UNMARKED HAND SET AND DIAL

NEW GREY NATO STRAP

NEW BATTERY FITTED, SPARE BATTERY INCLUDED

Re listed due to non payment.

FREE SHIPPING TO UK BUYER ONLY. International shipping at cost to be confirmed.


May 26, 2019 at 2:27 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Having bought my 1990 Gen 1, 3 years ago for £650, I can't certainly say these seem to be creeping up.

May 26, 2019 at 3:44 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Seiko7A38
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Market forces - supply and demand. They're not exactly in short supply at the moment - not that they ever have been, in truth, despite all the numerous eBay listings, documented in this thread, which have included 'Rare' in the title. :roll:


Other than for the purposes of keeping this thread updated, I have little or no interest in them. That said, at the time of writing, I have half a dozen* 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1's on my eBay watching page. Their prices vary from £500 (auction opening bid price) to no less than three with ridiculous 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now prices of between £1300 ($ equivalent) and £1350 ! :o


*That's not entirely true, There is another UK eBay auction listing @ £850, which ended unsold yesterday evening (and hasn't yet been re-listed) that I need to delete off - to make room for more over-priced crap. So that makes 7 in total. :P


May 27, 2019 at 2:16 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The 7-day UK eBay auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head Only (the one with the slightly unconventional shades of 'Limited Edition' listing title) ended not long after midnight last night, selling for £808 after 11 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143268186666

June 2, 2019 at 3:29 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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