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Seiko7A38 at August 16, 2018 at 4:39 AM

Another, fully functional, 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed yesterday evening by a UK eBay seller, as a no reserve 7-day auction with an opening bid price of £450.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183381288397


The above quoted 7-day UK eBay auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 ended yesterday evening, selling for a strong £830 after 12 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183381288397


August 23, 2018 at 9:34 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Checking my eBay watching page, I noticed that the Japanese eBay proxy seller fe-shop-japan had ended their latest re-listing for a risibly over-priced 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 a couple of days ago, supposedly because of an error in the listing. Presumably the error was in the pricing. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283111205319



Strange, though, because the long-running Yahoo Japan re-listing by presumably the watch's bona fide owner cliper505 still appears to be current. Indeed, in his latest re-listing, he's increased the price to 165,000 Yen as a 'prompt decision' Buy-it-Now (from the previously 'reduced' 151,000 Yen opening bid auction).


http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s593088133


August 23, 2018 at 10:56 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Speaking of pricey 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1's on Yahoo Japan ....


Earlier today, those two were joined by another, listed as a 3-day auction, with a wishful opening bid price of 150,000 Yen.




http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b328660398



Google translates the Japanese seller's description badly as follows:


It becomes the military watch of the Seiko British army.

Although the lug in the direction of 6 o'clock is bent a little, there is no problem in use.

There are some bruises around the bezel.

I do not have much pictures to take so

I think that I want to take pictures if I have something I want.

I can not answer your professional question because it is not detailed to the clock.

I will attach a new belt of NATO that I bought at purchase to Omake.

Since it becomes thing that passed to the hand once, it is no claim no return, please.

The one who has a question is answered in the range to understand.

Dispatch is carried out uniformly by Yamato Transport at 1000 yen.


August 23, 2018 at 11:27 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This non-running 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, described as being in need of a service and which appears to be in better than average cosmetic condition, was listed by a UK eBay seller @ 9:45am this morning, as a one-day low-start no reserve auction, with an opening bid price of £0.99. Bidding is currently stalled at £136 - at the time of writing. Given the short listing duration, possibly not the wisest move on the seller's part, especially as it's a UK bank holiday weekend. So it'll be interesting to see what it makes in just 15 hours time - by 9:45am Saturday morning. Note the seller's clever choice of eBay ID: hisandheuers. He also happens to be listing various TAG Heuers for sale, so is quite possibly a dealer - and likely knows exactly what's wrong with the watch (besides just 'needing servicing').


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113218463166



VERY RARE SEIKO GEN 1 MILITARY ISSUED PILOTS CHRONOGRAPH WATCH, THIS IS MODEL NUMBER 7A28-7120 AND IS DATED 1984 WITH SERIAL NUMBER. THE WATCH IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION BUT SADLY NEEDS SERVICING, I'VE TRIED A NEW BATTERY AND ITS NOT WORKING SO I'M SELLING AS NEEDING SERVICING, HAVE BEEN QUOTED £160 FROM SEIKO SERVICE CENTRE FOR A SERVICE, THESE ARE BECOMING HARDER TO FIND NOW, ALL MY ITEMS ARE GENUINE, PLEASE CHECK MY FEEDBACK ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE ASK. NO TIMEWASTERS PLEASE AS YOU ARE BIDDING TO BUY.


August 24, 2018 at 1:29 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Well, the seller seems to have known what he was doing. The short listing duration seems to have had little effect on the outcome. The one-day auction listing ended @ 9:45am this morning, with the 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 selling for £578.01 after 28 bids. I wasn't watching it live, but checking the bidding history, around half a dozen of those bids were made during the obligatory last second snipe-fest.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113218463166


August 25, 2018 at 6:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Meanwhile, another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was advertised for sale on TZ-UK's Sales Corner yesterday evening, with an asking price of £750.


http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?433200-Seiko-RAF-Gen-1-7A28-7120



Studying the seller's photos, it appears to be missing its black nylon crystal gasket - suggesting a glued in replacement crystal. I remember observing on another example, earlier in this thread - though this appears to be a different watch.


August 25, 2018 at 6:43 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Evidently his sales post on TZ-UK wasn't being met by the kind of of offers he was seeking - here's a partial quote of a subsequent post from that thread:

Some interesting trade offers which I'm grateful for, but I'm only looking to sell really to cut down the collection.


So late yesterday evening, the UK seller jneds listed his 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 on eBay as a 7-day low start no reserve auction, with an opening bid price of £0.99. As of lunchtime today, bidding had reached £67.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232904738166


I've decided to thin out my collection as I have far too many watches many of which never see the light of day. This watch is in lovely condition for an issued watch and they are often seen in much worse condition than this.

It dates from 1988 and the pictures show the condition really well I'd say with only signs of light wear and tear with nothing nasty and a scratch free glass. Accurate to within a couple of seconds a month and all chrono buttons have a satisfying click to them. The only negative is an issue with the minute register (at 9 o'clock) which doesn't record the first minute when the seconds hand reaches 12 but then does so after that. If then reset it works normally and counts the minutes ok.

I've no idea what the issue is but it hasn't bothered me in the couple of years I've had the watch as I don't use the chrono much but a service would probably sort it if it concerned the new owner. I'm in two minds about selling but I'm no military collector but do love Seiko's but tend to focus more on divers in the last year or so.

Postage is within the UK only. Thanks and any questions please just ask.


August 26, 2018 at 9:18 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Here's another speculatively over-priced 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, listed on eBay at lunchtime today, by UK seller mwwatches with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of £950 and currently no option to make an offer. :roll: Not the best of examples: this one has more than it's fair share of minor dings and rubbing wear to the bezel and is suffering from manky hands lume.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163221847836



Here's a chance to buy a sought after and extremely attractive Seiko generation 1 military 'fast jets' pilots chronograph.

The watch is one of the highest quality quartz chronographs ever made, and features a remarkable 1/10 second timer. The watch has been checked by my watchmaker, who fitted a new battery, and all functions are working correctly.

It comes on the green NATO strap pictured.

Please contact us at mwwatches if you have any questions.

I always use Royal Mail Special Delivery fully insured and guaranteed postal services, unless the buyer prefers to collect in person, which is also welcome.


August 26, 2018 at 10:10 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at August 23, 2018 at 10:56 AM

Checking my eBay watching page, I noticed that the Japanese eBay proxy seller fe-shop-japan had ended their latest re-listing for a risibly over-priced 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 a couple of days ago, supposedly because of an error in the listing. Presumably the error was in the pricing. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283111205319


It's back on eBay - re-listed yet again this afternoon.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273429144496



The already ludicrous pie-in-the-sky Buy-it-Now price has been increased from $2180 to $2340.  Presumably this is in line with the original YJ seller's price increase from 151,000 to 165,000 Yen. :roll:


Edit: Actually, my bad.  I'd got so fed up to the back teeth of watching that 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 being re-listed ad nauseam, for over a year on Yahoo Japan, I'd understandably become somewhat blasé and failed to spot that the latest 're-listing' was actually for a different watch. The photos are slightly different. The latest one is issue # 9960 / 90 whereas the previous was 9152 / 89.


Out of curiosity, I ran a closed search on Yahoo Japan to see what had become of the previous 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 listed by cliper505. Strangely, the only result returned shows it sold for the opening bid price of 151,000 back on 05/22:




But as cliper505 was still re-listing it on Yahoo Japan long after that, until only recently, using that same set of photos, as indeed was fe-shop-japan on eBay until 21st August, something clearly doesn't ring true. All I can say is more fool anybody who might have stupid enough to pay anything like his asking price, let alone those of his deluded eBay proxy re-seller.


August 27, 2018 at 10:33 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Just to confuse matters further, the same 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 (currently listed on Yahoo Japan with an asking price of 165,000 Yen) was listed a second time on eBay overnight, with a marginally less ludicrous 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $2249 and FREE shipping ! I'm assuming this eBay ID japanese.shop is another proxy seller, same as fe-shop-japan - possibly in some way connected.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323417992997

August 28, 2018 at 6:43 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The 7-day auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, which had previously briefly been unsuccessfully offered for sale on TZ-UK's Sales Corner, ended late yesterday evening. It sold for £655 after 32 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232904738166


September 2, 2018 at 7:51 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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First new eBay listing for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 that I've seen so far this month (re-listings apart). This average condition example was listed earlier today, by a UK seller, with a Buy-it-Now price of £800 (and the option to Make an Offer).


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113241757389



This RAF-issued Seiko military generation 1 watch is considered to be one of the most sought among military watches and this is not surprising as the model is relatively scarcity as well as of a higher grade movement and build quality

A now rare sought after watch, an ideal addition for any collector

Dated: 1990

Includes luxury presentation box

1st Generation

Dial: Original Promithium Luminous Military Dial with Three Sub-Dials

The case excluding the crown and pushers measures 37mm across and has an inter-lug width of 20mm.

As it is required by the MoD, all Seiko military models fit fixed strap bars.

The watch has had active service watch from the military and therefore has some slight marks the casing. Includes new grey strap.

The images are of the watch you will receive.

The watch will be posted out on a fully tracked and signed for service.


September 10, 2018 at 3:54 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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There was another new eBay listing for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 late yesterday evening. This time by a Pakistani seller, as a 5-day no reserve auction with an opening bid price of US $1.00. I took this screen print early this morning. At the time of writing, with 4 days of the auction still to run, bidding is currently @ $338.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183426683428


Seiko MOD GEN.1 7A28-7120 RAF MILITARY WATCH.

Watch is in working well.

Chronograph is also in nice perfect working.

All function are in working.

Shipping is $25 and delivery in one week.

Thanks.


September 11, 2018 at 3:15 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Here's another 7A28-7120 I'll not only be adding to my eBay watching page, but also my 'custom' list - Stupidly over-priced 7A28 RAF Gen. 1's. It was listed earlier today by a UK eBay seller rjpsales3282, who has previously featured in this and other forum threads, with a heady 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of £1200. :o

The eBay ID belongs to one Ross Penman, who in a recent indignant missive, via the website contact form, protested that he is neither a dealer nor a profiteering reseller. See screen print below. If he's not a dealer, it begs the question: why ever would he include the word sales in his eBay user name ? It also appears that he either has a very short memory or can be a little economic with the truth, at times.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113245609505


Vintage Seiko 7a28-7120 Gen1 RAF issues watch

Just back from a service with Renowned Seiko specialist Duncan Hewitt.

Serial number is from Jan 1988.

Any questions do let me know

Thanks for looking.



The watch Ross is referring to is a stainless 7A28-7020 SPR007J 'James Bond', which I recently commented on in this thread, which is currently immediately below this one, in the same forum section. He bought it in mid-April (hardly 'the beginning of the year') for £495, listed it on eBay for £750 at the end of August and sold it, last week for £700. Thus making rather more than 'a dime' in profit on that one. 


September 12, 2018 at 4:19 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The 5-day auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 by a Pakistani eBay seller, ended a few moments ago, selling for $925 (equivalent to approx. £707.46) after 31 bids.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183426683428


September 15, 2018 at 5:52 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Yet another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed this morning by another UK eBay seller, with a Buy-it-Now price of £845 (and currently no option to make an offer).


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142940705702


This listing is for a 1990 MoD issued Seiko Generation 1 (Gen 1) 7A28-7120 military aircrew chronograph.

The watch is in very good condition and full working order.

As an issued watch it has the normal minor marks to the case that you would expect, but is still in very clean condition - please refer to the photographs to assess cosmetic condition for yourself. The case back has minor marks but is clean and bears the correct issue marks. The face and hands are excellent and the crystal is perfect. The crown/stem and pushers all operate correctly and positively.

The hacking function works and the watch resets correctly from the crown. The chrono functions all operate and reset correctly, with the sweep second hand, tenth of a second sub-dial and minute sub-dial all correctly returning to the zero position. The chrono adjustment function for all three also works to adjust the reset positions if necessary.

As you would expect the watch keeps excellent time.

The watch is fitted with a new grey NATO style strap.

If you want to know more about this watch type, I can recommend http://home.earthlink.net/~nederick/SeikoChronoRevuVulcF.htm. The instructions and technical manual can also be downloaded from this site.

Please carefully check the photographs before buying to assess condition. The photographs form part of the description.

Note that this is a vintage watch and waterproofing/water resistance has not been tested and cannot be guaranteed.

UK postage is by Royal Mail Special Delivery, hence the cost.

Shipping to North America, Oceania and Europe by Global Shipping Programme. Buyer pays any imports duties and customs fees.

Any questions, just ask.

Thanks very much for looking!


September 16, 2018 at 2:44 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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The 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 listed by UK eBay seller rjpsales3282 sold earlier this evening. Not for his slightly reduced Buy-it-Now price of £1100, but ....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113245609505


As revealed by WatchCount.com's Look-up tool against a sole offer for £1000.




As confirmed by the eBay Purchase History:


September 19, 2018 at 3:05 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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