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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, fitted with a leather NATO strap, was listed yesterday evening, by a US eBay seller, with a Buy-it-Now price of $1200, or the option to make an offer.

As can be seen from their description, the eBay seller piecesoftime is a B&M retail establishment. They have previously featured in this thread once before, in August last year, when they listed another example, with a Buy-it-Now price of $1750. It subsequently sold for $1500.

January 9, 2019 at 6:35 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 'Head Only' was listed on Yahoo Japan a few days ago, as an 8-day auction listing with a typically over-optimistic opening bid price of 100,000 Yen or the rather pointless option of a 'Prompt Decision' Buy-it-Now price of 150,000 Yen. No takers so far. :roll:

Google translates the Japanese seller's description as follows:

[Product Description]

Seiko made British Air Force Chronograph 1st generation model.

It is believed to be made in 1989 from the stamp of the back lid.

Product name: SEIKO RAF Gen 1 chronograph

Model number: 7A28-7120

Size: Case diameter about 37 mm

Lug: Width about 20 mm

Accessory: None

[Condition of goods]


The operation including the chronograph function is normal .

There are scratches on the draft shield and case. (Please check the image)

Status of use:

Disassembly at the Seiko head office in 2012, battery and gasket replaced in November 2018.


Because it is an old product, troubles may come out after shipping.

Because I can not respond to refund / refund, please offer a bid after an understanding.

Please question on unclear point.

January 9, 2019 at 8:29 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 listed by US eBay seller piecesoftime sold earlier this afternoon, but not for their full $1200 Buy-it-Now asking price.'s Look-up tool reveals it actually sold for a Best Offer of $1100.

The eBay Purchase History shows another potential buyer had earlier made a number of unsuccessful offers. Oddly, indeed if you believe that - more than the permitted maximum of 3. :/

January 9, 2019 at 11:33 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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So utterly predictable, really. It was just a matter of time before one of the would-be profiteering Japanese eBay 'proxy' re-sellers latched onto that 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 on Yahoo Japan. One of the regular offenders fe-shop-japan listed it yesterday evening, with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $1590 !! To save you looking it up, that's equivalent to approx. 172,000 Yen at today's exchange rate.

I haven't bothered copying and pasting their eBay listing description, for a simple reason: it's almost identical to the Google translation of the bona fide YJ Japanese seller's description I've already posted.

But wait !! Stop Press.

They're now offering 5% discount on their marked-up price - for 24 hours !! :lol:

January 10, 2019 at 11:01 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at November 25, 2018 at 1:19 PM

This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed this afternoon by a UK eBay seller, in what appears to be a rather unusual format (I'd say arse about face, personally). It's a 3-day auction listing with an absolutely ludicrous opening bid price of £1200, or the sensible option to make a much lower offer. :roll: As for it being a rare early issue (per the title) well it is a 1984 issued watch, but it's the 2440th issued !! :lol:

The above 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, listed by UK eBay seller mike_045 in the last week of November remains unsold, despite 5 re-listings to date and a subsequent reduction of the opening bid price to 'only' £1000. The most recent re-listing (or should I say the last one recognizable as such) had ended yesterday evening.

The seller re-listed it again a few minutes later, but now with a fresh set of photos. This is the same watch as before, issue # 2440 / 84. Although from the new photos, it now looks like a 'head only', according to the seller's description, which appears to be unchanged, it still comes supplied with a NATO strap.


January 11, 2019 at 3:31 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 'Head Only' was listed in the early hours of this morning, by a Canadian eBay seller, with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $1890 Cdn. (equivalent to approx. $1425 US). The seller's odd choice of user ID gnomon.graph reveals this to be another instance of Déjà Vu. Of more anon ....

For sale is an honest, beautiful Seiko 7a28-7120 Gen 1 RAF. This is a watch issued to the Royal Air Force and I believe was dated 1989. I'm sure this watch no longer needs any introductions if you're interested in this piece.

The dial is in great condition, pretty much perfect.

Hands are in great condition, pretty much perfect as well.

Case is in very good condition, some scratches and small dings as expected from a 20-30 year old watch, but nothing major.

7a28 movement runs very well. Chronograph function is running flawlessly as well. Service history unknown. Battery just died and I have not had a chance to get a new one. I'll update with a battery if I end up being able to purchase one before this sells.

Crown works as it should.

Crystal has scratches, but honestly unnoticeable unless looked for. Also easy to replace since it's very generic style.

Head only sale!

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Here's where you may have first seen it on these pages, when it was listed by the same Canadian seller, using another eBay ID mahc1234, back in February 2018 ....

January 13, 2019 at 3:44 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at February 26, 2018 at 4:33 AM

A couple more typically over-optimistically priced 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1's were listed yesterday evening by eBay sellers from across 'The Pond'.

Then there's this 'head only' offered by a Canadian eBay seller, with a ludicrous 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now asking price of C$2500 Canadian Dollars.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Only one question from me: how did you manage to dream up that price ? 

The Canadian seller (then using ID mahc1234) ended that listing in the last week of June 2018, as item allegedly no longer available. But if you click on the link now, it shows his current eBay ID gnomon.graph.

This was a subsequent re-listing, originally created with eBay user ID mahc1234, which had run since 9th September 2018, until it was also ended, in the early hours of this morning - once again as allegedly no longer available. :roll:

His recent changes of user ID are confirmed by the eBay User ID History:

I'm not going to bother uploading the photos of the case-backs from the respective listings; but you can check them for yourself. No great surprise, it's the same watch, MOD issue # 8220 / 89. ;)

January 13, 2019 at 3:50 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at January 8, 2019 at 6:22 AM

This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed yesterday evening by a UK seller, as a 7-day auction, with what some might consider a slightly lower than average opening bid price of £575. There's possibly a reason for that. The watch has been subtly modified from its original specification, in that the fixed bars have been removed and the lugs drilled to take conventional spring bars. I'm not going to bother uploading the seller's photos, but it looks to me like the work was done neatly. That said, I suspect it's likely to detract from the watch's final selling price.

The above 7-day UK eBay auction for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 with drilled lugs, ended 30 minutes ago, selling for £763 after 4 bids. Not a bad price, considering the non-original condition.

January 14, 2019 at 3:40 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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This slightly battered looking 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 - also a non-runner, was listed earlier this evening by regular UK eBay business seller britishmilitarysurplus, as a 3-day auction, with an opening bid price of £400.


Genuine Issue RAF Pilot Watch Generation 1. Issued in 1988

The Watch is not currently running - It will need a New Battery and a Service

The Watch is Sold with No Warranty or Guarantee

January 14, 2019 at 4:48 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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