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Seiko7A38 at March 12, 2020 at 4:45 AM

Yesterday evening, UK eBay seller alwaystherighttime listed another non-working beaten-up 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head only as a 3-day auction, with an opening bid price of £100. As always, he describes this poor example, with a badly smashed crystal, as being in 'Excellent Condition'. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254537889637


The above 3-day eBay auction by UK seller alwaystherighttime for a non-running 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head Only, in the exact opposite of 'Excellent Condition', ended 10 minutes ago, selling for £412.67 after 6 bids. The mind truly boggles. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254537889637


March 14, 2020 at 4:10 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at January 5, 2020 at 10:10 AM

This 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed earlier this afternoon, by the oddly-named UK eBay seller princesslear1dawn, as a 7-day auction with an opening bid price of £995 (which seems to be their favoured price point), or the option to make an offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114050940304


I'm just tidying up a couple of loose ends (and clearing some old crap off my eBay watching page at the same time). UK eBay seller princesslear1dawn had re-listed that 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 eight more times as 7-day auctions, stubbornly retaining the same opening bid price of £995. :roll: Their last re-listing ended over a week ago, on 8th March - still without a bid placed, unsold. They haven't re-listed it. I guess it may re-appear at some point. :/


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114135525951


March 16, 2020 at 4:05 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Without waiting for his two previous 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1's to sell (see previous page), late yesterday evening, prolific UK eBay seller grebit19 listed yet another Head Only, with a Buy-it-Now price of £795, and in his now customary manner, without the option to make an offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362946591333


Vintage 1989 Seiko Mens Military Issued RAF Pilots Chronograph Watch Gen 1 7a28 7120,

New glass and battery fitted,

All hands and markers are crisp and white,

All pushers operate nicely,

Fully working including all chronograph functions which stop, start and reset perfectly,

Very good condition with some small signs of age,

UK postcodes only. 

Will be sent via Royal Mail Special Delivery.


March 17, 2020 at 10:38 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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At the risk of repeating myself ....

Yesterday evening, UK eBay seller alwaystherighttime listed another non-working beaten-up 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head only as a 3-day auction, with an opening bid price of £200 or the option to make an offer. As always, he described this example, another with a smashed crystal, as being in 'Excellent Condition'. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254543728961


SEIKO Generation 1 PILOTS Watch. 

Excellent Condition. 

Issued in late 1988 - VINTAGE Collectors Watch. 

Used by the Helicopter Pilots in the British Military. 

Not currently working. 

Excellent condition - some cracks on the crystal as detailed. 

No Strap Included.


It sold early this morning for an undisclosed best offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254543728961

March 18, 2020 at 10:00 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed this afternoon by a UK eBay seller, as a 10-day auction with an opening bid price of £308 (with a reserve set) or the option to Buy-it-Now for £899. Has to be said: the seller's description goes on a bit, yet still manages to get a couple of basic facts wrong. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193392157444


Vintage 1988 Seiko Military Issued RAF Pilots Gen 1 Chronograph

This elegant and sought-after UK Ministry of Defence (MOD) issued Seikowatch was supplied to RAF Pilots and Aircrew in 1988. In March 2020 it had a service and a battery fitted. It keeps good time and is in excellent condition. 

It comes with a 20mm light olive-green NATO nylon strap with frosted fittings (matching the watch case finish). It measures approximately 28cm (excluding the buckle).

Details 

The case back is marked: 6645-99-768-3056 /|\ 6134/88 

The NATO Stock Number (NSN) for the watch is ‘6645-99.’ ‘6645’ is the NATO equipment code for a Time Measuring Instrument and ‘99’ is the NATO UK country code. ‘7683056’ is the item no., which refers to this particular model of watch. The serial no. ‘6134’ refers to its place in that year’s batch. Following this there is a slash and a further two-digit no. representing its year of issue (i.e. 1988). The Seiko specific watch batch no.is ‘813624.’ 

The case measures approximately 37mm across excluding the crown and pushers (44mm lug to lug), and has an inter-lug width of 20mm. It has fixed strap bars as required by the MOD. 

All hands and markers are crisp and white and the pushers operate flawlessly. Its chronograph functions all work, with stop, start and reset actions. The watch case is excellent with only very minor signs of age – there are no major dings/dents on the unpolished case. This is one of the better examples that you will find on ebay. 

To comply with MOD standards Seiko stamped a “circle P” on the dial, indicating that Promethium was used to illuminate portions of the dial and hands. This luminosity no longer provides a strong glow – which normal for awatch of this age. 

The watch is powered by the highly-regarded 15-jewel, quartz 7A28 Seiko movement introduced by Seiko from 1983. 

It comes with a new light olive green NATO nylon strap with frosted fittings (matching the watch case finish). It measures approximately 28cm (excluding the buckle). 

A Bit of History 

In the early 1980s the MOD sought a new quartz chronograph for its Pilots and Aircrew to replace the manually wound watches issued up until the early 1980s. The Seiko 7A28-7120 (now most often referred to as the RAF Generation 1 or ‘Gen 1’) was first issued to Aircrew in October 1984 and was replaced 6 years later by the more common Seiko ‘Gen 2.’ 

I am selling a small number of military watches and watch straps over the coming weeks, so do please check them out. If you have any queries, please do not hesitate to contact me.


March 22, 2020 at 2:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at February 9, 2020 at 5:41 AM

This 7A38-7120 RAF Gen. 1, supplied with an 'expensive' leather bund strap, was listed yesterday evening, by a UK eBay seller, with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it -Now price of £975, or the option to make a lower more sensible 'down-to-earth' offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283776069114


One less over-priced 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 that's thankfully no longer cluttering up my eBay watching page. Ended earlier this afternoon by the UK eBay seller, as allegedly no longer available.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283776069114



March 23, 2020 at 12:41 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Yet another non-running well-worn 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head Only was listed by another UK eBay seller, yesterday evening, as a 3-day auction, with an opening bid price of £400, or the option to make an offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274315976789


Seiko Generation 1 Pilots Watch Used Vintage Watch 1988 Condition is Used. Dispatched with Royal Mail. 

Not currently running. Will need a service and new battery. 

Vintage collectors watch. Scratched crystal as shown in pictures.


March 24, 2020 at 4:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at March 22, 2020 at 2:35 PM

Another 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 was listed this afternoon by a UK eBay seller, as a 10-day auction with an opening bid price of £308 (with a reserve set) or the option to Buy-it-Now for £899. Has to be said: the seller's description goes on a bit, yet still manages to get a couple of basic facts wrong. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193392157444


I didn't mention it before, but there was something slightly unusual about the format of that eBay listing. I'd always observed, as a general rule, that as soon as someone placed an opening bid, it normally removed the option to Buy-it-Now. As you can see, when I took my screen print, there had already been an initial bid placed. I thought no more about it. That listing for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 ended yesterday evening, when someone hit the Buy-it-Now button, paying the full price of £899.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193392157444


But checking the bidding history, it had already been bid to £600 ....


March 24, 2020 at 4:33 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at November 21, 2019 at 4:14 AM

Of course, these case-backs he's selling must once have belonged to complete watches. Earlier in the week, he listed the typically battered remnants of one of them - an almost completely empty watch case, naturally sans case-back, with a 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of £195, or the option to make an offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362816796343


I never bothered adding UK eBay seller grebit19's listing for that empty well-worn 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 watch case to my eBay watching page. I've got more than enough over-priced crap cluttering it up already. :roll: Out of curiosity, I clicked on the link which I'd posted in November, back on page 49 of this thread. No great surprise - it's still unsold. Since November, he's made a number of revisions to the listing, including another yesterday morning, adding Worldwide postage.



His 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price has now come down to 'only' £95.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362816796343


Personally, I wouldn't give 95 pence for it. :P


The only reason I thought to add an update is that, yesterday evening he listed a dial from a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, with a typical greedy 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of £195, currently without the option to make an offer. Note the rust staining in places around the perimeter flange, indicating the scrapped watch it came from had suffered water ingress.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362953890932

 


Vintage Seiko Mens Military Issued RAF Pilots Watch Gen 1 7a28 7120 Dial,

Very good condition for age (please see photos for details),

UK postcodes only.


March 25, 2020 at 3:35 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at March 24, 2020 at 4:30 AM

Yet another non-running well-worn 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head Only was listed by another UK eBay seller, yesterday evening, as a 3-day auction, with an opening bid price of £400, or the option to make an offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274315976789


The above quoted 3-day UK eBay auction for a non-running well-worn 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 ended at lunchtime today, when it sold for an undisclosed best offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274315976789


March 25, 2020 at 1:22 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at March 12, 2020 at 4:56 AM

Late yesterday evening, prolific UK eBay seller grebit19 listed two more 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1's. One comes fitted with a NATO strap, the other as a Head Only, which sounds like it's suffering from a recalcitrant sweep second hand, priced at £795 and £695 respectively - and typically, without the option to make an offer.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362941651985


Well, that's another one I can thankfully delete off my eBay watching page. :roll:


Earlier this afternoon, UK eBay seller grebit19 ended one of his recent listings for a 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1, allegedly because of an error. I suspect it was more than likely sold off eBay via the 'back door'. 


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362941651985



March 27, 2020 at 1:05 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Seiko7A38 at June 16, 2019 at 4:14 AM

Canadian eBay seller gnomon.graph (previously a.k.a. mahc1234) first listed this example in allegedly 'AMAZING CONDITION' on 29th April and to my disbelief, it supposedly sold on 9th June for his ludicrous 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price of $2300 CAD. Well it's back on eBay again, re-listed late yesterday evening, with the price now increased to $2500 CAD - for anybody stupid enough.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323835371643


After recently revising his listing, reducing his ludicrous 'pie-in-the-sky' Buy-it-Now price back to $2300 CAD and a complete change of photos in early February, some 6250 views and 9½ months later, deluded Canadian eBay seller gnomon.graph ended his long-running re-listing for that 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 Head Only yesterday evening as allegedly no longer available. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323835371643



March 30, 2020 at 3:56 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Yesterday evening, UK eBay seller grebit19 offered up another 'gem' from his junk pile. He listed this empty 7A28-7120 RAF Gen. 1 watch case, with one cut and one distinctly wavy fixed bars, with a risible tongue-in-cheek Buy-it-Now price of £29.99. Presumably it's intended as a pre-emptive April Fool's. I'm not even going to bother adding it to my eBay watching page. :roll:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362959399599


Vintage Seiko 7a28 7120 Gen 1 Issued Military Chronograph Watch Case,

Comes with original glass,

One of the bars is missing section,

All threads are good,

Does not have any pushers,

UK postcodes only.


April 1, 2020 at 2:11 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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